mclumber1 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, finaljedi said: SpaceX is propped up by tax dollars and what seems to be 31 rounds of investment funding. Yes, SpaceX receives money from the government, but for services it has rendered, not as a handout or a subsidy. They do receive a lot of investment funding though, mostly because of Starlink (I would imagine), because once it becomes fully operational, it will print money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 28 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: I don’t know if it’s real, but there’s a Musk reply where he says something like “We can’t ever be profitable with advertisers alone! How about $8/month?” Oh it’s real Punished Joel (@biggestjoel): "For me, it’s that Stephen King didn’t respond and then, ten minutes later, Musk replied again with an even stupider tweet. That’s what brings it over the top imo. That’s what makes it iconic"|nitter NITTER.NL For me, it’s that Stephen King didn’t respond and then, ten minutes later, Musk replied again with an even stupider tweet. That’s what brings it over the top imo. That’s what... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 39 minutes ago, Brian said: Oh it’s real Punished Joel (@biggestjoel): "For me, it’s that Stephen King didn’t respond and then, ten minutes later, Musk replied again with an even stupider tweet. That’s what brings it over the top imo. That’s what makes it iconic"|nitter NITTER.NL For me, it’s that Stephen King didn’t respond and then, ten minutes later, Musk replied again with an even stupider tweet. That’s what brings it over the top imo. That’s what... Lol that second reply, what an absolute clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 46 minutes ago, Brian said: Oh it’s real Punished Joel (@biggestjoel): "For me, it’s that Stephen King didn’t respond and then, ten minutes later, Musk replied again with an even stupider tweet. That’s what brings it over the top imo. That’s what makes it iconic"|nitter NITTER.NL For me, it’s that Stephen King didn’t respond and then, ten minutes later, Musk replied again with an even stupider tweet. That’s what brings it over the top imo. That’s what... One of the comments in there was "Elon Musk has always had huge "pls respond" energy" and I've never read a more true statement in my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GeneticBlueprint Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Half as many ads? Fucking die you scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 "Power to [some] people" . . . who can afford to waste $8/month. Surely this is equal to everybody. And will cause no issues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Don't 10% of Twitter users, who I assume are the verified people, create 90% of the content? Taxing them seems like a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Jwheel86 said: Taxing them seems like a bad idea. My brother in Christ are you familiar with Elon’s oeuvre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 He actually did have one "smart" idea by floating the $20/month amount (which was never going to be the price anyway) in order to make $8/month seem "reasonable" in comparison. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr.Vic20 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: He actually did have one "smart" idea by floating the $20/month amount (which was never going to be the price anyway) in order to make $8/month seem "reasonable" in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 imagine either paying $8/month so someone can't impersonate you (the reason verification exists) or so you can tweet harder than other people lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Imagine hemorrhaging users and relying entirely on free user generated content with virtually no built in ways for creators to monetize, then deciding to charge people for that privilege. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 If you know, you know. 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: He actually did have one "smart" idea by floating the $20/month amount (which was never going to be the price anyway) in order to make $8/month seem "reasonable" in comparison. We got door in the face’d. I still think 8 will fail though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Half as many ads? Fucking die you scum. One of the reasons that we've never seen a large scale social network that works on a subscription is that the ad money is typically way more than what people would be willing to pay to use a site with no ads at all. In the US and Canada, the first source I found put Meta's 2020 average revenue per user at ~$165. So they probably wouldn't want to give you an ad free experience for any less than $15/month, but once you factor in CC fees and stuff, they'd probably want more. Twitter reports users in a weird way, but for last year they listed their "monatizable" user base in the US at 37 million. With a US revenue of $2.8 Billion, their annual ARPU is ~$75, or $6.25/month. At $8/month with no ads they'd bump up their annual ARPU to $96, but given that they're not currently making money and with the leveraged buyout they need to make at least 20% more just to cover their interest, only cutting their ad revenue in half (for what are presumably their most valuable users) still only gets their ARPU (for paying users) to ~$135. To put a better context on that, if they wanted to cover their new interest payments (and still not make any money) from US users that pay $8/month and still see half the ads, they'd need to get about 17 million subscribers, or about 45% of their "monatizable" US user base. Of course, this napkin math is only increasing the revenue by $1B, so he'd need even more. That could be made up by the rest of the world, which makes up the vast majority of Twitter users (37 million US vs 179m elsewhere), but the US is more than half of their revenue ($2.8B of $5B), and we don't know what Elon's sliding scale of pricing would be and I'm way too lazy to do that math for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 31 minutes ago, Joe said: We got door in the face’d. I still think 8 will fail though. Or like 200,000 people will sign up and it still won't put a dent in the money Musk needs to pay just to service the debt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, TwinIon said: One of the reasons that we've never seen a large scale social network that works on a subscription is that the ad money is typically way more than what people would be willing to pay to use a site with no ads at all. In the US and Canada, the first source I found put Meta's 2020 average revenue per user at ~$165. So they probably wouldn't want to give you an ad free experience for any less than $15/month, but once you factor in CC fees and stuff, they'd probably want more. Twitter reports users in a weird way, but for last year they listed their "monatizable" user base in the US at 37 million. With a US revenue of $2.8 Billion, their annual ARPU is ~$75, or $6.25/month. At $8/month with no ads they'd bump up their annual ARPU to $96, but given that they're not currently making money and with the leveraged buyout they need to make at least 20% more just to cover their interest, only cutting their ad revenue in half (for what are presumably their most valuable users) still only gets their ARPU (for paying users) to ~$135. To put a better context on that, if they wanted to cover their new interest payments (and still not make any money) from US users that pay $8/month and still see half the ads, they'd need to get about 17 million subscribers, or about 45% of their "monatizable" US user base. Of course, this napkin math is only increasing the revenue by $1B, so he'd need even more. That could be made up by the rest of the world, which makes up the vast majority of Twitter users (37 million US vs 179m elsewhere), but the US is more than half of their revenue ($2.8B of $5B), and we don't know what Elon's sliding scale of pricing would be and I'm way too lazy to do that math for him. This is a great analysis of the situation. I'm a millennial and I can't understand anybody willing to pay for something and still see ads. Not that I was ever going to pay for a blue checkmark, but seeing that is a complete non-starter. You get my time or my money. Not both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Kal-El814 said: If you know, you know. i love that you follow him isn’t he in his 30s now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 27 minutes ago, stepee said: i love that you follow him isn’t he in his 30s now lol He will forever be a young early 20s guy in my heart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Ad Giant Interpublic Group Advises Clients to ‘Pause’ Twitter Ad Spending for a Week VARIETY.COM Interpublic Group has suggested its advertising clients pause their spending on Twitter for at least a week It's just a week, but... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, stepee said: i love that you follow him isn’t he in his 30s now lol Believe it or not, I don't. I legitimately stumbled across it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Genuinely very funny that on the day Elon took over a bunch of chuds were posting about how much their follower count had increased, convinced that he had undone some sort of nebulous "shadow-banning" policy that was in place. And now it's basically gonna be you pay up 8 bucks a month or else you're going to be shadow-banned in the sense that you're always going to be behind blue checks in the replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 God (@goodgodabove) • Instagram photo WWW.INSTAGRAM.COM God shared a post on Instagram: "". Follow their account to see 5304 posts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Musk Limits Twitter Hate Speech by Only Allowing Slurs From Verified Racists HARD-DRIVE.NET Elon Musk has cracked down on hate speech in the app Twitter by only allowing slurs from verified racists. 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Hard Drive's feud with Musk is priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 7 hours ago, Jason said: I love the bourgeoisie. (/s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 The only people who will pay will be brands, racists, and creepy virgin Musk fans. So, Republicans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 God (@goodgodabove) • Instagram photo WWW.INSTAGRAM.COM God shared a post on Instagram: "Today I insulted the richest person on the planet and he agreed with Me.". Follow their account to see 5305 posts. So how do we embed images? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, MarSolo said: God (@goodgodabove) • Instagram photo WWW.INSTAGRAM.COM God shared a post on Instagram: "Today I insulted the richest person on the planet and he agreed with Me.". Follow their account to see 5305 posts. So how do we embed images? Well your instagram link isn't an image link, it is a link to the instagram post. I have no clue how to link just the image. Even with inspect element, the image won't embed. You'd need to upload it to imgur or capture the image yourself like this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 There is also an embed option with the ... on the side but I can't get it to work prolly cuz I don't have an account or UBO is blocking something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 4 hours ago, stepee said: i love that you follow him isn’t he in his 30s now lol 2 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: Believe it or not, I don't. I legitimately stumbled across it. Actually I followed him back in the day for #TeamFollowBack then his account got banned. But when he made a new account the tables turned and he followed me but I did not follow back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 38 minutes ago, MarSolo said: So how do we embed images? 22 minutes ago, Bacon said: Well your instagram link isn't an image link, it is a link to the instagram post. I have no clue how to link just the image. Even with inspect element, the image won't embed. You'd need to upload it to imgur or capture the image yourself like this: Yeah you can't embed any Instagram post anymore, been that way for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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