johnny Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Arya can't be a Mary Sue because I like her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Mary Sue= Any female that does something that a guy should be doing in movies and TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Detractors: This show doesn't do enough to subvert expectations anymore. Also detractors: Arya killed the Night King?! But that was Jon Snow's destiny! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 minute ago, GeneticBlueprint said: But that was Jon Snow's destiny! I mean, it does feel like I was robbed of my final boss. Like, imagine playing Zelda and when you get to Ganondorf, right before the boss fight begins, Zelda comes in, shoots him with a light arrow and then the credits role. That was what Arya killing the NK felt like to me. Maybe people would like that, but I want my fucking boss fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Bacon said: I mean, it does feel like I was robbed of my final boss. Like, imagine playing Zelda and when you get to Ganondorf, right before the boss fight begins, Zelda comes in, shoots him with a light arrow and then the credits role. That was what Arya killing the NK felt like to me. Maybe people would like that, but I want my fucking boss fight. This ain’t legend of fucking Zelda 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Yeah, but Jon Snow fucking sucks at everything, why would he ever beat the Night King? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, johnny said: This ain’t legend of fucking Zelda Yes, and that isn't the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I have this tiny inkling that GRRM is sitting on the book until the show is done. Then he can have all the fanfare and finish on his own terms. But I also know it's not gonna happen and we will never get another book. ㅠㅠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 minute ago, thewhyteboar said: I have this tiny inkling that GRRM is sitting on the book until the show is done. Then he can have all the fanfare and finish on his own terms. But I also know it's not gonna happen and we will never get another book. ㅠㅠ I honestly think he's written himself into a corner and let the readers get ahead of him. Between the show and fan theories, he may feel like anything he puts out will be underwhelming. I think he's legit afraid to finish them because he's a victim of unrealistic expectations... now he HAS to top the show and he probably isn't sure he can do it. Also after rewatching the episode a couple of other things that jumped out to me... The bad assery of the Unsullied who are basically the Spartans of this Universe. Where was Meera and the Reeds? Aren't they Stark Bannermen? Or are they in The Riverlands? The irony of Jorah using the Tarly family sword to defend Danerys... the woman who executed the heads of the Tarly family. That last sequence with the piano score... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I honestly think he's written himself into a corner and let the readers get ahead of him. Between the show and fan theories, he may feel like anything he puts out will be underwhelming. I think he's legit afraid to finish them because he's a victim of unrealistic expectations... now he HAS to top the show and he probably isn't sure he can do it. Also after rewatching the episode a couple of other things that jumped out to me... The bad assery of the Unsullied who are basically the Spartans of this Universe. Where was Meera and the Reeds? Aren't they Stark Bannermen? Or are they in The Riverlands? The irony of Jorah using the Tarly family sword to defend Danerys... the woman who executed the heads of the Tarly family. That last sequence with the piano score... I didn't know the Unsullied raped little boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoJoe Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 This explains everything! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoJoe Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I think you guys are forgetting that we almost got a Jon vs NK fight but the NK couldn't be bothered. He rezzed everybody, sicked them on Jon and moved on like he had better things to do. Like go after Bran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoJoe Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I'm sorry for all the memes guys but they're SO funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 11 hours ago, SFLUFAN said: I wouldn't hold my breath on HBO releasing further seasons on UHD BD. I have the feeling that releasing Season 1 in UHD BD was a "demand test" and the data indicated that it wasn't there. I get that because DVDs are still most popular. But I’d buy the series collection on 4K but I’m not buying it on anything less than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, johnny said: I get that because DVDs are still most popular. But I’d buy the series collection on 4K but I’m not buying it on anything less than that. I'm betting there will be a UHD collection but they won't sell UHD seasons individually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 this song was so fucking badass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I wouldn’t be surprised if the last two books are basically done and Martin is waiting for the show to finish just so he can make them different than the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: I wouldn’t be surprised if the last two books are basically done and Martin is waiting for the show to finish just so he can make them different than the show. I hope so. But he has been very candid about the Meereenese Knot that he can't untange. And what @skillzdadirecta said above. He's backed into a corner by his own success and has no way to both subvert expectations and come to a satisfying conclusion. But just finish Dunk and Egg!!! I need to know what happened at Summerhall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 hour ago, LazyPiranha said: The Night King walked into a room with three people in it, two of which could fight worth a damn and by the time he actually got to the three eyed raven, the only people with weapons were long gone because his army of zombies had chased them off. He's not walking into a well prepared fortress with an army of soldiers. I'm not saying there's literally zero reason, I'm just saying it's not exactly a satisfying one because we generally know so little about him. And this time the Night King Walked into a completely overrun castle. Where, to his knowledge all of its heroes were pinned down or dead. He walked into a room with a cripple and a lone maybe above average warrior. Which he dispatched with incredible ease. You say he walked into a well prepared fortress? He didn’t walk in at the beginning of the fight, we walked in when it was mere moments from complete destruction. His actions in the final episode were 100% logical and consistent with how he acted previously throughout the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 So Maisie Williams will definitely get cast in the Star Wars movies by Benioff and Weiss, right? I wonder who else from the cast will. Kit Harrington? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I just watched it again, this time on my phone. I still didn't have any major issues with the visuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Brick said: So Maisie Williams will definitely get cast in the Star Wars movies by Benioff and Weiss, right? I wonder who else from the cast will. Kit Harrington? Hopefully as Jedi master! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I am 100% ok with Arya killing the NK. However I am disappointed we didn’t get to see a good fight with the NK. Maybe him and John throwing down, and before he can deliver a killing blownto John we the Arya kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I loved the episode and can't say much that hasn't already been said. My only issue is I wish Cersei would have had to deal with the army of the dead at some point. Also I feel like the army of dead was a much bigger threat then all of the iron throne nonsense. Jon and everybody survives this big epic battle against the Night King and oh yeah we still gotta go get Cersei out of power now. They just saved the human race for crying out loud. Now let's go get that iron chair! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 With the lack of deaths of named characters in this battle I think we are going to get an overall happy ending to the series. I had my going to die list at 16 going into the battle with another 8 or so in the maybe column. What did we end up with 5 or 6 and some of those were minor characters at this point. Biggest death in terms of screen time outside of Theon who was essentially the free space would probably be Jorah but even that qualifies as a happy ending for him, literally dying for Danny, he probably jizzed his pants every time he was stabbed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 50 minutes ago, elbobo said: With the lack of deaths of named characters in this battle I think we are going to get an overall happy ending to the series. I had my going to die list at 16 going into the battle with another 8 or so in the maybe column. What did we end up with 5 or 6 and some of those were minor characters at this point. Biggest death in terms of screen time outside of Theon who was essentially the free space would probably be Jorah but even that qualifies as a happy ending for him, literally dying for Danny, he probably jizzed his pants every time he was stabbed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 17 hours ago, nublood said: - Arya killing the NK is the most forced, lamest thing I've seen on TV in 2019. - Was hoping Jon wouldn't be so useless - It's like Melisandre used her one special ability..... for nothing - Brienne getting swarmed twice and not even taking damage? Ok. - Can't see shit captain. It was literally the least forced thing in the episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 12 hours ago, elbobo said: Is John Snowe fireproof, are all Targaryens or is it just Daenerys? I know her brother didn't do so well with molten metal but I'm not sure if that is a different rule or not. Man, I still love watching him get his crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha1Cowboy Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Where the hell was Howland Reed and Meera? The books indicate they live in the north in a bog on some sort of moving island... maybe next week they come in to supplement the norths forces? I think their location is somewhere to the south by the riverlands.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/game-of-thrones-season-8-news-cast-meera-read-ellie-kendrick-release-date-hbo-a8044726.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69los Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, Alpha1Cowboy said: Where the hell was Howland Reed and Meera? The books indicate they live in the north in a bog on some sort of moving island... maybe next week they come in to supplement the norths forces? I think their location is somewhere to the south by the riverlands.... Meera kind of just pissed off after delivering Bran to Winterfell. Howland was only seen in Bran's Tower of Joy flashback I believe. Moat Cailin was last seen when it was run by starving Ironborn and then Ramsey used Reek to deceive them and later took over it for House Bolton. I don't think there has been any mention of House Reed since or its army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, Alpha1Cowboy said: Where the hell was Howland Reed and Meera? The books indicate they live in the north in a bog on some sort of moving island... maybe next week they come in to supplement the norths forces? I think their location is somewhere to the south by the riverlands.... I wondered the same thing... they live in the swamps so I assume they're south of Winterfell but still... What's the name of their castle? Maybe Meers figured she'd done enough even though that makes no sense considering all she's seen. Or maybe she's gone insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I wondered the same thing... they live in the swamps so I assume they're south of Winterfell but still... What's the name of their castle? Maybe Meers figured she'd done enough even though that makes no sense considering all she's seen. Or maybe she's gone insane. Greywater Watch is where Howland Reed resides. It’s, iirc, the most-southern location of The North built on a crannog, and most Northerners distrust/dislike “crannogmen”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 42 minutes ago, 69los said: Meera kind of just pissed off after delivering Bran to Winterfell. Howland was only seen in Bran's Tower of Joy flashback I believe. Moat Cailin was last seen when it was run by starving Ironborn and then Ramsey used Reek to deceive them and later took over it for House Bolton. I don't think there has been any mention of House Reed since or its army. Moat Cailin is held by House Glover, not Reed iirc. Castle Greywater was unaffected by The War of the Five Kings as neither the Southerners or Iron Born could find it, with many sinking into and drowning in the bogs due to their heavy armor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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