CNN Hosting Trump Town Hall on May 10th

[Comet]

Can we ban CNN links now? Fuck them 

[SuperSpreader]

53 minutes ago, Jason said:

lol fuck off Vanderbilt piece of shit 

 

 

Silvercuck

[GeneticBlueprint]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

lol fuck off Vanderbilt piece of shit 

 

 

I was thinking “I could never really hate Cooper, though.”

 

Go fuck yourself, Cooper. 

[Ricofoley]

Motherfucker was president for four years. Which of his opinions have I been siloed off from, exactly?

[Keyser_Soze]

3 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

 

But the ratings?

[BloodyHell]

11 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

But still triple their average viewership. 
 

Expect more town halls.

 

personally I think the anger at CNN is ridiculous. Trump is a former president and probable nominee for 24. Trump did himself zero favors with independents, and democrats definitely aren’t going to vote for him. Every time he spoke he gives Biden an ad to attack him with. 
 

Deplatforming is this weird thing that doesn’t really work. You fight bad ideas with good ideas, and bad policy with good policy. Not by silencing people you don’t agree with. 
 

Grump brought nobody to his side, but he definitely pushed people away with his cruelty, lies, and bs.

 

The attack ads for Biden write themselves.

”I would Pardon them day one”

“Trump called a woman whom he was found liable for Sexual Abuse against a whackjob”

 “And a person named Ashli Babbitt was killed. You know what? She was killed, and she shouldn’t have been killed. And that thug that killed her, there was no reason to shoot her at blank range … And he went on television to brag about the fact that he killed her.” 

it was an hour of him TRYING to be calm, and he still sounded like a raving madman. CNN didn’t bring Trump any new voters. His base was always going to suck farts from big ass and call it dreamwhip, but all he did was show everyone else that nothing is going to change and he will probably be even more unhinged than last time. 

[AbsolutSurgen]

38 minutes ago, BloodyHell said:

But still triple their average viewership. 
 

Expect more town halls.

 

personally I think the anger at CNN is ridiculous. Trump is a former president and probable nominee for 24. Trump did himself zero favors with independents, and democrats definitely aren’t going to vote for him. Every time he spoke he gives Biden an ad to attack him with. 
 

Deplatforming is this weird thing that doesn’t really work. You fight bad ideas with good ideas, and bad policy with good policy. Not by silencing people you don’t agree with. 
 

Grump brought nobody to his side, but he definitely pushed people away with his cruelty, lies, and bs.

 

The attack ads for Biden write themselves.

”I would Pardon them day one”

“Trump called a woman whom he was found liable for Sexual Abuse against a whackjob”

 “And a person named Ashli Babbitt was killed. You know what? She was killed, and she shouldn’t have been killed. And that thug that killed her, there was no reason to shoot her at blank range … And he went on television to brag about the fact that he killed her.” 

it was an hour of him TRYING to be calm, and he still sounded like a raving madman. CNN didn’t bring Trump any new voters. His base was always going to suck farts from big ass and call it dreamwhip, but all he did was show everyone else that nothing is going to change and he will probably be even more unhinged than last time. 

The election will be won by having the moderates who don't follow politics closely continue to see what a whackjob Trump really is.  Raving progressives weren't going to vote for him anyways.

[Reputator]

Look, all I see is a dangerous attention seeker being fed attention. Maybe "deplatforming" him won't make him go away, but CNN didn't need to air it, give him an extremely agreeable audience, and further damage themselves for the sake of discrediting him. He was already discredited, his views have already been aired. It helps no one but Trump to signal boost it.

[legend]

56 minutes ago, BloodyHell said:

Deplatforming is this weird thing that doesn’t really work. You fight bad ideas with good ideas, and bad policy with good policy.

 

What about the last 10 years of politics has made you believe this? We're not talking about a scientific audience. Good ideas and policy are important ingredients, but thinking that's all you need to change the country is a little myopic.

[stepee]

1 hour ago, legend said:

 

What about the last 10 years of politics has made you believe this? We're not talking about a scientific audience. Good ideas and policy are important ingredients, but thinking that's all you need to change the country is a little myopic.

 

lmao its so crazy naive that it makes me think his new persona is a baby that literally just crawled out of the womb. How in the fuck does a good idea matter when the other side’s tactic is to create a complete alternate reality of truth?! They don’t even have ideas to combat against! It’s all just making shit up and saying good things are bad because really the bad things are good. Policy doesn’t matter because what people argue on is the basic foundation of truth of what is trying to be accomplished.

[SaysWho?]

Ask Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, Bill O’Reilly, Megyn Kelly, and that one generic black haired dude that used to be on the five how much power they have after losing their platform.

[AbsolutSurgen]

36 minutes ago, stepee said:

 

lmao its so crazy naive that it makes me think his new persona is a baby that literally just crawled out of the womb. How in the fuck does a good idea matter when the other side’s tactic is to create a complete alternate reality of truth?! They don’t even have ideas to combat against! It’s all just making shit up and saying good things are bad because really the bad things are good. Policy doesn’t matter because what people argue on is the basic foundation of truth of what is trying to be accomplished.

How do you know when a politician is lying?  When his lips are moving.

They all do -- Trump just takes it to another level.

 

Mass delusions have always been a thing, and probably always will be.  The way to move through it is to continue to have conversations, not to create silos and echo chambers.

[stepee]

6 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

How do you know when a politician is lying?  When his lips are moving.

They all do -- Trump just takes it to another level.

 

Mass delusions have always been a thing, and probably always will be.  The way to move through it is to continue to have conversations, not to create silos and echo chambers.

 

I’m fine with well intentioned people having conversations, but it does not create an echo chamber to not have someone you know 100% for sure is not well intentioned spread lies for a couple hours. That only further confuses and divides people, it does not bring anyone together. They will fall for the lies or they won’t but if you get trapped in the right wing alternate reality in America you are going to end trapped in the echo chamber to end all echo chambers and this sort of propaganda opportunity only serves to assist in that process. 

[Kamusha]

Whether it should happen or not is its own debate but deplatforming absolutely does work. When's the last time you heard about Milo Yiannopoulos?

[stepee]

Oh yeah it absolutely can work. And the idea that what we really need is a constant stream of horrible opinions being fed to us is one I just can’t get behind. If a republican wants to get up on stage and explain why their plan to make health care more affordable would work and lay out the plan of action and explain how it makes sense, for example, Im fine with that. But that isn’t what any of this ever is and definitely not ever what it is when people talk about deplatforming.

 

There is never a need to hear divisive lies that twist peoples realities and turn them against each other, and that is Trumps entire fucking thing.

[Jason]

1 hour ago, stepee said:

lmao its so crazy naive that it makes me think his new persona is a baby that literally just crawled out of the womb. How in the fuck does a good idea matter when the other side’s tactic is to create a complete alternate reality of truth?! They don’t even have ideas to combat against! It’s all just making shit up and saying good things are bad because really the bad things are good. Policy doesn’t matter because what people argue on is the basic foundation of truth of what is trying to be accomplished.

 

It's pointless to engage with apoc because he's constantly making changes to the persona based on whatever mood he happens to be in. Zero point engaging when you know you're not having a real conversation with a real person.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

Personally, I have zero intetest in having a "conversation" with those I consider to be my enemy.

 

If that creates "silos" or "echo chambers", then so be it.  In fact, all the better!

[SaysWho?]

I just find this conversation fascinating for all the wrong reaasons.

 

2016 was all about hearing Trump be insane for long periods of time and disqualifying him, and it didn't work. It should have, but it didn't, so why are we suggesting to run the Hillary 2016 campaign again and for the media to revert to 2015/2016 and just letting him lie at length?

[stepee]

9 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

I just find this conversation fascinating for all the wrong reaasons.

 

2016 was all about hearing Trump be insane for long periods of time and disqualifying him, and it didn't work. It should have, but it didn't, so why are we suggesting to run the Hillary 2016 campaign again and for the media to revert to 2015/2016 and just letting him lie at length?

 

because it’s the conservatives suggesting that :P

[Reputator]

Winning the Presidency is a popularity contest. Pure and simple. Why did Trump win the nomination over other GOP members, when their viewpoints weren't that different? Trump could command attention. He was better at the popularity game.

 

It's hardly your policies that get you elected. And by giving Trump attention you help him win by exactly the means that won him his first term.

[MarSolo]

I’m in agreement that deplatforming works for the reasons listed above. Shit, remember Madison Cawthorne?

 

On the other hand, we’ve been getting a “absence makes the heart grow fonder” vibe with Trump, in that there were people that were genuinely thinking “were things really that bad under Trump?”

 

(spoiler alert: yes they were, there was that whole pandemic thing he fucked up)

 

I think the Dems need Trump as the looming boogeyman to bring out moderate voters against him, and this town hall, his video depositions, and plenty of more to come are going to be YUGE reminders to those voters that Trump is a raving lunatic who shouldn’t be anywhere near the White House, let alone be anything more than an insane guy standing on the corner of 5th Avenue in a trench coat who flashes women as they walk by.

 

[AbsolutSurgen]

16 minutes ago, MarSolo said:

I think the Dems need Trump as the looming boogeyman to bring out moderate voters against him, and this town hall, his video depositions, and plenty of more to come are going to be YUGE reminders to those voters that Trump is a raving lunatic who shouldn’t be anywhere near the White House, let alone be anything more than an insane guy standing on the corner of 5th Avenue in a trench coat who flashes women as they walk by.

 

[stepee]

Then air a two hour documentary of clips and reminders of how terrible he is, we don’t need any more content from him for this.

[Kamusha]

People absolutely should be exposed to different viewpoints and arguments, but there are so much better ways to do this than giving an exclusive town hall event to a proven charlatan and sociopathic liar.

[MarSolo]

Oh, I agree for the record that the town hall was a terrible idea, that said, more Trump out in the open is bad for him. Remember all the covid briefings he made himself the front and center of? The first debate with Biden? They all exposed him as someone who wasn’t fit for the job. 
 

Now he has all these investigations he’s dealing with, not to mention he’s STILL whining about the 2020 election. People don’t want to hear him whine about the 2020 election, that turns off his most of his base surprisingly enough.

[mclumber1]

Cancel culture run amok ITT

[Spork3245]

 
 

[Chairslinger]

Annnnd, he's gone.

 

 

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Hours after The Atlantic dropped a lengthy and not-so-positive profile on Chris Licht, Puck News reported that the CNN CEO has told employees he’s no longer tasked with managing the business operations at the company. It was this past Wednesday when Licht claimed that “he would be ceding control of all business operations to David Leavy, the chief corporate affairs officer at Warner Bros. Discovery and a longtime member of the [David] Zaslav braintrust,” the publication noted. According to the report, the decision to move Licht away from the financial matters was an “unequivocal vote of diminishing confidence by the parentco in Licht’s ability to manage a business.” Notably, since Licht has taken over, CNN has suffered to pull in big cable ratings.

 

[Keyser_Soze]

But the ratings?

[Xbob42]

On 5/12/2023 at 5:02 AM, BloodyHell said:

But still triple their average viewership. 
 

Expect more town halls.

 

personally I think the anger at CNN is ridiculous. Trump is a former president and probable nominee for 24. Trump did himself zero favors with independents, and democrats definitely aren’t going to vote for him. Every time he spoke he gives Biden an ad to attack him with. 
 

Deplatforming is this weird thing that doesn’t really work. You fight bad ideas with good ideas, and bad policy with good policy. Not by silencing people you don’t agree with. 
 

Grump brought nobody to his side, but he definitely pushed people away with his cruelty, lies, and bs.

 

The attack ads for Biden write themselves.

”I would Pardon them day one”

“Trump called a woman whom he was found liable for Sexual Abuse against a whackjob”

 “And a person named Ashli Babbitt was killed. You know what? She was killed, and she shouldn’t have been killed. And that thug that killed her, there was no reason to shoot her at blank range … And he went on television to brag about the fact that he killed her.” 

it was an hour of him TRYING to be calm, and he still sounded like a raving madman. CNN didn’t bring Trump any new voters. His base was always going to suck farts from big ass and call it dreamwhip, but all he did was show everyone else that nothing is going to change and he will probably be even more unhinged than last time. 

Motherfucker how do you think Trump became President to begin with? He was propped up as "can't look away" TV for like a solid year, that alone turned his campaign from a meme to reality. He was certainly wacky and weird enough to cover for a bit, but it just never fucking ended, and it still hasn't ended. I feel like I'm gonna be hearing about this fat fucking moron until the day he dies, and then probably 20 years after that.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

29 minutes ago, Chairslinger said:

Annnnd, he's gone.

 

That's what happens when you find yourself looking upwards longingly at NewsMax's ratings.

[Air_Delivery]

CNN used to have the niche of serious news network (like in the 90s). It might not be the ratings bonanza of Fox News but it had an audience.

The problem is CNN basically shit on its last remaining audience to try to pander to another audience that hates them. No amount of groveling to Trump is gonna pull in the MAGA shitheads. And yeah Wolf Blitzer might be as exciting as soggy white bread, but he is perfectly sutable to be on in the background while doing something else. Which is what CNN is now, something to have on in the background. 

 

Their brand is in the toliet because they stand for nothing. Say what you will about Fox News, MSNBC or Newsmax, at least they have an identity. IMO CNN needs to refocus on being a real serious news network and mix in real documentaries and infotainment docuseries like Anthony Bourdain and that show with Eva Longoria to differentiate themselves from the other networks. Because they aren't gonna win in the talking head space.

[SaysWho?]

8 hours ago, Chairslinger said:

Annnnd, he's gone.

 

 

 

 

8 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said:

But the ratings?

Lol

[skillzdadirecta]

Yeah that guy was driving CNN right into the ground... im sure some of their top talent spoke up and complained too about the direction the channel was seeming to go in.

[finaljedi]

I thought I'd read that Zaslav was one of the people pushing CNN to try and embrace the right a bit more