mclumber1 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: We really need to be able to vote electronically. Every legal voter gets a code, opens a voting account, then vote while sitting on your ass at home. Obviously there would still be voting stations so those who choose to vote in person. I’m guessing far more would actually vote, and im positive it could be made secure. This country is so ass backwards. plus, as an added bonus, the breitright’s heads would explode. I disagree. There absolutely needs to be a physical paper trail. Electronic systems are too vulnerable to trust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Electronic voting is a terrible idea. Anyone wanting that doesn't remember our own history or technology enough to be making such a determination 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Electronic voting is a terrible idea. Anyone wanting that doesn't remember our own history or technology enough to be making such a determination If Wall Street can figure out trading billions of dollars a day online, im absolutely sure secure electronic voting can be figured out as well. and to be clear, im not saying we should be doing it by November, im saying we should be working on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Using Wall Street as an example of a well run system free of abuse as a way to justify electronic voting is certainly a take. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Using Wall Street as an example of a well run system free of abuse as a way to justify electronic voting is certainly a take. I was talking about security, not ethics. It is definitely secure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Bane committed securities fraud out in the open and they still didn’t cancel the transaction, it’s not secure. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Chris- said: Bane committed securities fraud out in the open and they still didn’t cancel the transaction, it’s not secure. If the mask doesn't fit, you must acquit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: If the mask doesn't fit, you must acquit. I’M GOTHAM’S RECKJBDLKSJBLKHJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 If the audio doesn't mix, you must gwathahmahafuoryou! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Wall Street and corporations spend billions in computer fraud and phishing training, and there's still failures! This leads to data ransoming and compromised internal networks. Now put this in the context of an election where the data ransoming by a state actor, like say Russia (I hate doing this) in coordination with a domestic political party, could random the election data (modified or not) in exchange for recognition for Russian annexation of Crimea. A dumb example, but it's clear what my point is here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Oh yeah @b_m_b_m_b_m did you see that they also moved DeJoy's testimony up from September 17 to August 24 and gave him 24 hours to confirm the new date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 I hope states are readying backups/alternative solutions to allow for dropping off absentee ballots. USPS is beyond fucked already to repair in time for the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jason said: Oh yeah @b_m_b_m_b_m did you see that they also moved DeJoy's testimony up from September 17 to August 24 and gave him 24 hours to confirm the new date? It's almost like the USPS is universally popular and "working to fix it" would also be popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 I mean, Gerry Connolly has been sounding the alarm for months and just over the weekend (before Pelosi called the house back) he tweets this: He's not just some back bencher here either, he's the chairman of the oversight subcommittee that's responsible for the USPS (and my congressman, not for nothing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jason said: I’ve used a ballot drop box for every vote in my life. It’s near the customer service counter in my local grocery store, and fixed to the ground in a giant metal apparatus with a padlock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Trump's goal is just to turn the election into the biggest shit show in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, osxmatt said: I’ve used a ballot drop box for every vote in my life. It’s near the customer service counter in my local grocery store, and fixed to the ground in a giant metal apparatus with a padlock. Are you suggesting the guy who thinks you need an ID to buy groceries doesn’t know how voting works??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Spork3245 said: Are you suggesting the guy who thinks you need an ID to buy groceries doesn’t know how voting works??? It's super frustrating when these Trumpers get on the air and spout off their conspiracy theories about mail in voting and the interviewers do not actually challenge them. There are a number of safeguards in place for absentee/mail in voting, which are easily sourced, so it boggles my mind when they aren't discussed during these interviews. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: It's super frustrating when these Trumpers get on the air and spout off their conspiracy theories about mail in voting and the interviewers do not actually challenge them. There are a number of safeguards in place for absentee/mail in voting, which are easily sourced, so it boggles my mind when they aren't discussed during these interviews. But if they're mean to the guests they might not come back and then what will they fill the airtime with? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 GOP approval of the USPS has actually increased in the last couple weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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legend Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 FWIW, there are voting systems already designed that are clear, give you a receipt that someone else can't decipher by seeing it, but which allows you to verify that your vote counted through an online system. In many ways, the work is already done. But there is no chance in hell we'll ever get effort for a good system in place. The government is too fucked and corrupt for that to happen any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Final tweet says he sent a letter to DeJoy which only won't amount to much if that's the end of it. It seems like Manchin is on it, along with Warren and Connolly. Call your reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Now the Senate is bringing in DeJoy on Friday. Man, fuck this, this seems like it's obviously about trying to grab control of the narrative ahead of his House testimony on Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I thought that the senate was on break until September? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 SEE YOU IN COURT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Postmaster will suspend changes until after the election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Firewithin Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jason said: SEE YOU IN COURT!!! how many "R" states? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Firewithin said: how many "R" states? "All the states are represented by Democratic attorneys general." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Just now, Jason said: "All the states are represented by Democratic attorneys general." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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