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What a fucking shame. Trump's proposal for the virus is economic measures that are complete garbage, like payroll tax cuts and bail outs for industries that don't need it (except perhaps the airlines). 

 

What this country needs is robust long-term spending in public health. Fund the CDC, WHO, FDA, etc. We need a leader that encourages science, health, and stability. 

 

For economic stimulus measures, infrastructure of all kinds, particularly public transit and green initiatives, and if you must, send the middle class and poor cash in the mail, not payroll tax cuts. Maybe implement that debt forgiveness plan @Signifyin(g)Monkey talked about a while back too!

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16 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said:

I have a friend who works in Boeing's main plant in Everett. Somebody there tested positive too and that entire plant looks like a ghost town.

Boeing probably should probably hold off on making planes anyhow.

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14 minutes ago, Massdriver said:

What a fucking shame. Trump's proposal for the virus is economic measures that are complete garbage, like payroll tax cuts and bail outs for industries that don't need it (except perhaps the airlines). 

 

What this country needs is robust long-term spending in public health. Fund the CDC, WHO, FDA, etc. We need a leader that encourages science, health, and stability. 

 

For economic stimulus measures, infrastructure of all kinds, particularly public transit and green initiatives, and if you must, send the middle class and poor cash in the mail, not payroll tax cuts. Maybe implement that debt forgiveness plan @Signifyin(g)Monkey talked about a while back too!

Wouldn't you want to avoid public transit so it doesn't spread?

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Update from management is that two people have kids that "may have been exposed to the virus" at school and those 2 parents will be working at home the next 2 weeks. Apparently a handful of people already left the office after hearing the first rumor. 

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Infectious diseases specialist warns of 'overkill' when cancelling events over coronavirus fears

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Sharkawy said he wasn't trying to trivialize the virus in any way, but that "we have to recognize that 80 per cent or more of people that are afflicted by this are not going to be very sick, they're not likely to to die."

"If it can be a message where we can develop a very good sense of hand hygiene and break the chain of transmission, we'll protect that vulnerable segment of 20 per cent that will be more likely to succumb to this infection and its complications," he said.

He said his advice is to "live your life."

"I don't think it's practical or sustainable to hole ourselves up in our basements, with an endless supply of toilet paper and canned tuna," he told Galloway.

"We will get through this, but we all have to be of the same mindset," he said. 

"We need to create a system of solidarity and a system of respect and a system of patience, not one of stigma and fear."

 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Jose said:

It's just really stupid advice. Either you are ok with going to sporting events or you are holed up in your basement with tuna and toilet paper. No in between.

The US is so far behind in testing, we need to shut down sporting events to the public for a while so help slow transmission

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14 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

This is bad advice. He's not a public health expert.

 

 

In 1918 the flu had a very good chance of killing you if you got it.  That’s not remotely the case now.

 

Honestly I myself am a little surprised at the level of panic.  COVID-19 doesn’t even begin to approach the deadliness of something like Ebola.  The only people really in danger of dying are the old and infirm or people with weak immune systems.  The degree of hysteria we’re getting just doesn’t seem commensurate with the actual threat the virus poses.
 

Not that it’s bad to be cautious, of course, but still...we go through flu season literally every year without this kind of mass panic.

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A bank building close to my work place had someone test positive for the virus. So everyone was put on 2 week quarantine that worked on the 18th floor with this person. A co-worker said that a gas station he stopped at, had installed a pay window to the store. So the gas station store is closed to everyone and you pay for your gas now like you were at a standup drive-thru. (Mississauga Ontario and also close to Pearson International Airport)

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10 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said:

In 1918 the flu had a very good chance of killing you if you got it.  That’s not remotely the case now.

 

Honestly I myself am a little surprised at the level of panic.  COVID-19 doesn’t even begin to approach the deadliness of something like Ebola.  The only people really in danger of dying are the old and infirm or people with weak immune systems.  The degree of hysteria we’re getting just doesn’t seem commensurate with the actual threat the virus poses.
 

Not that it’s bad to be cautious, of course, but still...we go through flu season literally every year without this kind of mass panic.

You have to look at what's happening in northern Italy, where based on reports the hospitals are overwhelmed enough that they're starting to have to triage to the point where they're picking and choosing which cases to actually treat. That's the concern. It's at the fatality rate of the virus in a vacuum, it's that it's hitting so many people all at the same time and threatening to seriously burden hospitals. In a typical flu season, from what I understand, even among people who don't go and get the flu shot, there's still some level of immunity baked into the population because of people being exposed to similar strains in past years, so it can't just plow through the population to the degree that this thing is.

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4 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said:

In 1918 the flu had a very good chance of killing you if you got it.  That’s not remotely the case now.

 

Honestly I myself am a little surprised at the level of panic.  COVID-19 doesn’t even begin to approach the deadliness of something like Ebola.  The only people really in danger of dying are the old and infirm or people with weak immune systems.  The degree of hysteria we’re getting just doesn’t seem commensurate with the actual threat the virus poses.
 

Not that it’s bad to be cautious, of course, but still...we go through flu season literally every year without this kind of mass panic.

The dismissive attitude many people are discussing the old, infirm, those with heart or lung or other health conditions, or otherwise immunocompromised is really telling. To say nothing of the people who will go through some terrible ordeals without dieing.

 

It's very easily transmitted and has an incubation period making it difficult to detect before showing symptoms. We're doubling *confirmed* cases here in the US every 2-3 days,  and I know you know how compounding works, so this has the real potential to completely overwhelm the healthcare system here in the US like it has Italy. 

 

and if you're not the least bit concerned that this administration will not just make mistakes, but *continue to fuck up* then quite frankly you are a goddamn moron.

 

This is also a bad take.

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The panic is in large part about the extreme incompetence at the top. It may not be terrible YET, but this administration is guaranteed to make it worse. After all, they already have. 

 

If they hadn't burned what credibility they had right out the gate, people might be calmer. 

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