Target reduces 2slgbtq+ merchandise ahead of Pride month after harassment and violence from the right wing

[Ghost_MH]

45 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

As a general rule, businesses try to grow their sales by appealing to many different demographics, even when they have a primary demographic they attempt to cater to most. Pandering seems like an odd choice unless you believe all moves businesses make to appeal to smaller market segments is pandering…which kinda makes it pointless to call out.

 

Thinking about it, 7% of Americans are queer. I wonder what the threshold is for anyone that thinks selling pride gear is pandering. 2% of Americans are Jewish, so that's definitely pandering. 3% of Americans own reptiles, so Target must be pandering since they carry reptile food and lamps. 5% of Americans are 4 and under...is selling children's clothes also pandering?

[mclumber1]

Don't forget CNN.  They pandered to the chuds when they decided to let Trump on their network a few weeks ago. 

[Kal-El814]

On 5/24/2023 at 12:06 PM, mclumber1 said:

Were these types of initiatives by Target and other retailers at all profitable?  Can a company be inviting/accepting to groups of downcast groups of people without "pandering"?  

 

I've seen better word choice, can't lie.

[mclumber1]

14 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

 

I've seen better word choice, can't lie.

 

?  Not sure what you are getting at.  My point is that LGTBs are being unfairly marginalized and harassed.  

 

Somewhat related: I was speaking with someone the other day who was really upset that Target would sell this clothing in their stores, and my response to them was, "Then don't that clothing, no one is forcing you to do so."

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

?  Not sure what you are getting at.  My point is that LGTBs are being unfairly marginalized and harassed.

I’m guessing the word you were actually thinking of was “downtrodden”.

[CitizenVectron]

4 hours ago, Ghost_MH said:

 

Thinking about it, 7% of Americans are queer. I wonder what the threshold is for anyone that thinks selling pride gear is pandering. 2% of Americans are Jewish, so that's definitely pandering. 3% of Americans own reptiles, so Target must be pandering since they carry reptile food and lamps. 5% of Americans are 4 and under...is selling children's clothes also pandering?

 

I would guess the percentage of queer people is closer to 20%, if you include all non-binary/gender-non-conforming people. National polls show Gen Z as identifying as queer in this 20% range. Anecdotally, our school division (student pop of 12,000) K-12 also does demographic polls on a variety of things (including sexuality, identification, etc), and we get that 20%-ish figure.

[ort]

Maybe I'm just old and out of touch... but 20% seems really high.

[Fizzzzle]

You have to remember "queer" can mean anything. It can even mean what we used to call bi-curious. There's certainly how I would have labeled myself, at least until recently.

 

You know how the amount of left-handed people shot up as soon as we stopped stigmatizing left-handed people? It's probably a similar effect. A lot of people are more comfortable not identifying as 'straight,' whatever that means for them. Whether that means questioning their own identity or who they are attracted to. The fact that there isn't as much stigma around it (in civilized places) inevitably means we'll see more of it.

[Kal-El814]

5 hours ago, mclumber1 said:

 

?  Not sure what you are getting at.  My point is that LGTBs are being unfairly marginalized and harassed.  

 

 

5 hours ago, sblfilms said:

I’m guessing the word you were actually thinking of was “downtrodden”.

 

That's the one!

[Signifyin(g)Monkey]

On 5/24/2023 at 1:07 AM, Fizzzzle said:

Most people I know just use "queer." It is sort of an all encompassing term. Some gay people don't like using it (especially older folks), but almost every person I know that has an identity that is something other than straight cis is happy with the term queer.

 

Like I don't think I know anyone personally who consider themselves a trans male, they prefer GNC (gender-non-conforming), but they're also happy with queer.

 

We live in a post-gender world, people, and there isn't really anything anyone can do about it, no matter how hard they try.

See, I’m not so sure we are, which is partly what this ruckus is about. (definitely not entirely, though, because a lot of it is just the usual GOP culture war tactics and right-wing trolling)

 

We’re definitely in a world which is more accepting of alternative sexualities.  But the idea that as a consequence of not caring who you want to sleep with or marry, we can dispense with gender altogether, is by no means as universally accepted, even by many gays and lesbians. (old AND young). Especially when things like, for example, the celebration of masculinity, is still an integral part of gay male subculture, and facing the trials of womanhood still defines what it means to be lesbian for many lesbian women.

 

This is why, I think, polls show that most Americans do not support laws that explicitly target trans people, but also show that a majority do not necessarily support, say, trans women playing in women’s sports.  That’s an indication that gender still has meaning for most people.

 

Part of what’s causing friction here is that many trans people believe asserting that gender exists implies that the trans identity does not exist.  That they don’t exist.  I don’t think that’s necessarily the case, and there are plenty of people who are willing to accept the existence and validity of gender AND the validity of a *trans*-gender, or the idea that for some individuals gender is more fluid than it is for others—and I think the trans community could benefit from enlisting them as allies.  However, it’s not a settled matter, and a fairly crucial one, so at the very least it would be nice to be able to have a conversation about it.  Unfortunately, it seems like there’s no space for polite exchange or reasoned debate or any attempt to find common ground right now, between the right-wing hate campaigns and spasms of Twitter mob outrage.  And, as usual, it’s the most vulnerable and marginalized people who suffer as a result.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

On 5/24/2023 at 2:07 AM, Fizzzzle said:

We live in a post-gender world, people, and there isn't really anything anyone can do about it, no matter how hard they try.

 

Remember when people thought that Obama's election meant that we now lived in a "post-racial society"?

[Fizzzzle]

4 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

Remember when people thought that Obama's election meant that we now lived in a "post-racial society"?

I didn't say it would flip immediately, but it's the direction it's trending.

 

Of course, ask a black person in Mississippi what they thought the future would be in 1865.

 

As Jon Stewart said, "society bends towards justice, but it doesn't bend towards justice by gravity, you have to bend it. And there's a bunch of people trying to bend it back."

[stepee]

I just know whenever I see right wing violence in reaction to lgbtq+ acknowledgment all I can think is gee will someone please do something about corporate pandering sheesh

[unogueen]

Don't diminish either. If this isn't just a perfect confluence of shit for sex education, mah rights bullet hogging, and corpos being all too encompassing.

[MarSolo]

Add Chik-Fil-A to the list!

 

 

[Spork3245]

3 minutes ago, MarSolo said:

Add Chik-Fil-A to the list!

 

 

 

Did you see his follow-up?

[Jason]

Target Removes All Towels From Stores After Soaking-Wet Lunatic Objects To Dryness

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MINNEAPOLIS, MN—Bowing to the demands of the pro-moist movement, Target reportedly removed all towels from stores Thursday after a soaking-wet lunatic objected to dryness. “We apologize to the sopping individual who felt angry and threatened by our promotion of dryness,” said Target CEO Brian Cornell, explaining that…

 

[Jason]

4 minutes ago, MarSolo said:

Add Chik-Fil-A to the list!

 

 

[Amazatron]

I learned that Joey Mannarino really loves semen in his frosted lemonade.

[TUFKAK]

1 hour ago, Spork3245 said:

 

Did you see his follow-up?

Sounds Joey wants to swallow some of that semen.

[Kamusha]

Headline and discussion should be centered around Target giving in to terrorists.

[Spork3245]

[Chadatog]

3 hours ago, Spork3245 said:

boTH sIdeS

[Spork3245]

[ort]

 

 

Apparently this was real merch for sale on the official Trump election store during the 2020 campaign...

[marioandsonic]

On 5/30/2023 at 1:37 PM, MarSolo said:

Add Chik-Fil-A to the list!

 

 

No Bud Light, No Chik-Fil-A, No Target...

 

Where are these poor MAGAs supposed to go now?

[Firewithin]

12 minutes ago, marioandsonic said:

No Bud Light, No Chik-Fil-A, No Target...

 

Where are these poor MAGAs supposed to go now?

maybe it will turn them anit-capitalism once they get through their dumbfuck minds that a handful of corporations own everything no matter what they "boycott"

[stepee]

They ARE anti corporation, pretty sure they don’t like most of capitalism, but they just don’t know what any of it means and how to fix the parts that are broken for them without accidentally making the life of someone different from them better 

[DPCyric]

6 hours ago, marioandsonic said:

No Bud Light, No Chik-Fil-A, No Target...

 

Where are these poor MAGAs supposed to go now?

 

Walmart, Papa John's and hopefully one day the lower level of Tartarus.

[thewhyteboar]

Republicans becoming Amish to own the libs. 

[thedarkstark]

People who participate in the culture war bullshit are just the lowest IQ clowns who live in completely insular communities.

 

They're not even worth arguing with or trying to rehabilitate, just ignore them & let them live in their miserable little existence of their own making.

[Keyser_Soze]

35 minutes ago, DPCyric said:

 

Walmart, Papa John's and hopefully one day the lower level of Tartarus.

 

Papa John's is out since Shaq owns it now.

[unogueen]

7 hours ago, stepee said:

They ARE anti corporation, pretty sure they don’t like most of capitalism, but they just don’t know what any of it means and how to fix the parts that are broken for them without accidentally making the life of someone different from them better 

If the rest of you turned up to their 'boycotts' and dialed it up to 11 in their favour, maybe they'll snap back into sense, or join you in destroying capital. Either is good.

[Spork3245]

On 5/30/2023 at 2:46 PM, TUFKAK said:

Sounds Joey wants to swallow some of that semen.

About that…

[TUFKAK]

5 minutes ago, Spork3245 said:

About that…

Dudes only experience with trans women is porn. I wonder how he came across that? 🤔

 

I’ve got my entire annual salary Joey at home jacking off to trans porn while riding some object while hating himself for it all the while thinking that’s what every trans woman is.