CayceG Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, finaljedi said: I remember reading that in Death of Stalin they gave Jason Isaac's Zhukov less medals because the amount that hung off the front of the real Zhukov looked ridiculous. I'm starting to think that's also true about the gun nut gun closet scenes in some movies, several of those look like parodies, but we know they aren't. Burt Gummer from Tremors had fewer weapons than people in this thread. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pickle Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 9 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: This thread is terrifying and disgusting. Every single one of them is sick. Just took until the third photo to see a dad holding a gun pointed in the direction of his little boys. Like, it’s a fucking photo op and u don’t have the foresight not to point the gun in the direction of children. For people that dedicate their lives to guns they don’t know an ounce of gun safety. Like that’s rule one. ONE! He should be legally required to have his guns confiscated for that photo alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 (I posted this in a thread on the shower about what the 2A means and how state constitutions changed over time, and why ultimately the 2A just needs to be repealed because it makes no sense in modern America. And a wild to think 1876 TX legislature had a more modern progressive view of gun regulation than 2022 TX 😂) It literally doesn’t matter what regulated means (though Slug is correct it means something more along the lines of “prepared”), it is not the operative clause in the amendment. If you want to better understand what the 2A means, you can look at state constitutions at the time. PA: That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; And that the military should be kept under strict subordination, to, and governed by, the civil power. VT: That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State -- and as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power. VA: That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power. It may be unclear, but the 2A is actually a really terribly worded mashup of these ideas from the different states. Which makes sense, the same people who wrote their state constitutions were the people in Philly debating and crafting the US constitution. In essence, they borrowed the language from VA as the prefatory clause, and the language from VT and PA as the operative clause. The reason we need to repeal the 2A is that it is completely a relic of the past. It confers a right based on a set of very outdated assumptions, like militia membership being ubiquitous, or the constant threat of both foreign invasion or domestic tyranny. It is interesting to read gun rights protections in state constitutions in the 1800s as they already shift away from the “shall not be infringed” language. TX in 1876: Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime. Once you skip ahead another 100 years to the 1970s, gun rights activists have begun to win battles in states to get “shall not infringe” and explicit self defense language put in to state constitutions all over the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 Not sure if this was mentioned, Border Patrol ignored the School Police Chief and breached the classroom. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Not sure if this was mentioned, Border Patrol ignored the School Police Chief and breached the classroom. With each new morsel of information I am leaning more and more towards Wade's proposal for the chief... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 Hard to separate fact from fiction, but it would appear the story about a police officer who went in to rescue his family and then didn’t go back in was inaccurate. What seems to have actually occurred is an off duty border patrol agent who had a wife and kid in the school heard about the shooting then went to the school and organized the evacuation of dozens of children while the local PD did nothing but set up a perimeter and attempt to stop people from assisting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 So sorry 2A enthusiasts, this has to sting. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 Well here’s another diehard GOP saying you need change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 37 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: So sorry 2A enthusiasts, this has to sting. I don't get the shocked or confused reactions about this. Rogan is a bonafide meat head. He said "no one knows how to stop this..." except for every other western country on the planet that HAS stopped this These people have accepted that dead children are a worthwhile sacrifice in order for them to have their toys. It is what is is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 46 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I don't get the shocked or confused reactions about this. Rogan is a bonafide meat head. He said "no one knows how to stop this..." except for every other western country on the planet that HAS stopped this These people have accepted that dead children are a worthwhile sacrifice in order for them to have their toys. It is what is is. Yeah, but if you push someone enough into explaining why this also isn't a problem in other countries where many folks own guns they'll slink back into racism and tell you it's because they're more... culturally homogenous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: Yeah, but if you push someone enough into explaining why this also isn't a problem in other countries where many folks own guns they'll slink back into racism and tell you it's because they're more... culturally homogenous. American exceptionalism is always the end of this reasoning, and obviously doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: Yeah, but if you push someone enough into explaining why this also isn't a problem in other countries where many folks own guns they'll slink back into racism and tell you it's because they're more... culturally homogenous. Well Racisim is definitely a component of American gun culture just not in the way they think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Jason said: Guy who controls the atf: I can’t make this bureaucracy be shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 31, 2022 Author Share Posted May 31, 2022 Just now, Firewithin said: The DoJ needs to take over this investigation immediately and get agents in there to seize all records. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 16 minutes ago, Firewithin said: Not surprising at all. Police Departments' first instinct is to protect themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Just now, skillzdadirecta said: Not surprising at all. Police Departments' first instinct is to protect themselves. Their second instinct is to protect other police departments. So if TxDPS isn't going to protect UPD you know they fucked up bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skillzdadirecta Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, ThreePi said: Their second instinct is to protect other police departments. So if TxDPS isn't going to protect UPD you know they fucked up bad. If you ever wondered why so many "Bad Apples" in the police department keep their jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Moreover, the local police lied: the door was not propped open by a teacher when the gunman entered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Suspect, 2 bystanders injured in shootout outside St. Louis County grocery store WWW.KSDK.COM Two of the victims were bystanders at a north St. Louis County grocery store. tl;dr: Man with gun walks around store, gets robbed of his gun by another guy with a gun. Guy who now has no gun goes to car, gets second gun. Both gun guys shoot guns at each other, bystanders get shot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 30 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Suspect, 2 bystanders injured in shootout outside St. Louis County grocery store WWW.KSDK.COM Two of the victims were bystanders at a north St. Louis County grocery store. tl;dr: Man with gun walks around store, gets robbed of his gun by another guy with a gun. Guy who now has no gun goes to car, gets second gun. Both gun guys shoot guns at each other, bystanders get shot. ... so which one was the good guy with the gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, finaljedi said: ... so which one was the good guy with the gun? The guns, of course 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 2 hours ago, finaljedi said: ... so which one was the good guy with the gun? Simple answer. The bad guy had 2 Guns and the good guy was with A Gun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Uh...what is going on here? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Uh...what is going on here? FUCK!!! I guess no one on the board lost a fucking kid that day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 fucking hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 12 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Suspect, 2 bystanders injured in shootout outside St. Louis County grocery store WWW.KSDK.COM Two of the victims were bystanders at a north St. Louis County grocery store. tl;dr: Man with gun walks around store, gets robbed of his gun by another guy with a gun. Guy who now has no gun goes to car, gets second gun. Both gun guys shoot guns at each other, bystanders get shot. Forgot the craziest part, a 3rd man with a gun came along and shot the guy who robbed the second guy, after the second guy had fled, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 thats your typical thumb looking pig all right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 16 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Uh...what is going on here? Is there some special immunity at play here or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, 5timechamp said: Is there some special immunity at play here or something? No, this is typical sense sensationalist tweeting. The guy won a seat on the city council May 7th, and the city held the swearing in of all newly elected officials in private, not just this goon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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