AbsolutSurgen Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: The vaccines have effectively protected our healthcare system from collapse due to the idiots out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 59 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Get your COVID facts straight from an epidemiologist. Another great podcast from Michael Osterholm: Episode 80: The Emergence of Omicron | CIDRAP WWW.CIDRAP.UMN.EDU In "The Emergence of Omicron," Dr. Osterholm explains what we know and don't know about the Omicron variant, how we will learn more, and what it could mean for the future of the pandemic. Dr. Osterholm also emphasizes the importance of boosters and the potential for a post-Thanksgiving surge in cases. Email us your questions: OsterholmUpdate@umn.edu Micah's Beautiful Place:... This is a good podcast, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 48 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: good podcast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Omicron Variant Detected in at Least Six U.S. States WWW.WSJ.COM Confirmed cases of the Omicron variant of the coronavirus have been reported in Nebraska, California, New York, Minnesota, Colorado and Hawaii, and at least one instance was community spread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 OPINION | On COVID restrictions, our governments keep firing up the gaslights and shifting the goalposts | CBC News WWW.CBC.CA Until public opinion turns sharply against government overreach, we will continue to live in an artificially-prolonged state of emergency, writes privacy lawyer Allan Richarz. Not sure I agree with everything he says -- but, the lack of a plan with clear objectives is my concern. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 21 hours post booster shot, and my symptoms aren't horrible, but they are noticeable. A slight headache this morning, and I've been a bit dizzy and tired most of the day. Overall, I think I reacted pretty well to the booster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Not sure I agree with everything he says -- but, the lack of a plan with clear objectives is my concern. That's mostly the typical whining about goalpost shifting. It's almost like plans have to keep changing to meet an evolving threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: OPINION | On COVID restrictions, our governments keep firing up the gaslights and shifting the goalposts | CBC News WWW.CBC.CA Until public opinion turns sharply against government overreach, we will continue to live in an artificially-prolonged state of emergency, writes privacy lawyer Allan Richarz. Not sure I agree with everything he says -- but, the lack of a plan with clear objectives is my concern. I would agree we need better "end game" goals, but at the same time I agree with most restrictions currently in place—they are clearly helping control spread, and removing them would result in greater spread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 As long as vaccines hold up against severe illness nothing more is gonna be done. Hosiptals are probably gonna get overwhelmed by the unvaccinated again but thats probably gonna keep happening for the foreseeable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 45 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: But the FDA advisory panel got to look like they didn't let Biden tell them what to do and that's obviously the most important thing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 got boosted yesterday and feel no side effects today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Firewithin said: got boosted yesterday and feel no side effects today Saline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, Firewithin said: got boosted yesterday and feel no side effects today 5 months and 29 days so it won't be effective @Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, Firewithin said: got boosted yesterday and feel no side effects today What about your 5G signal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, silentbob said: What about your 5G signal? full bars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Me right now, 24 hours after my booster: Am I saying I have a headache, or that my 5G reception is excellent? You be the judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GeneticBlueprint Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 I thought I'd be able to walk on for my booster since I live in the chuddiest county of the chuddiest state of the chuddiest country but I couldn't find any appointment before a week from the day I made it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: I thought I'd be able to walk on for my booster since I live in the chuddiest county of the chuddiest state of the chuddiest country but I couldn't find any appointment before a week from the day I made it. Worth trying doing a walk-in anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 5 hours ago, sblfilms said: Saline Someone's got to be the control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 5 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said: I thought I'd be able to walk on for my booster since I live in the chuddiest county of the chuddiest state of the chuddiest country but I couldn't find any appointment before a week from the day I made it. Got my booster on Black Friday. Just walked into my local Acme (grocery store) and went to the pharmacy. The pharmacist asked which vaccine my fiancée and I wanted, filled out a form and showed our vaccination cards, and in about 20-min total (10 of which were filling out that form and the pharmacist putting our information in the computer) we were both boosted and done. Prior to this we were trying to make appointments at Rite Aid, CVS, that same Acme, etc, and they were all like 2-3 weeks out. Just call, find out their walk-in times and show up. The Rite-Aid near me has walk-ins from 2-3pm every day, the Acme has all-day walk-ins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaladinSolo Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 28 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Well Russians are extremely clumsy, did they consider that they all fell out of windows? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Omicron variant may have picked up a piece of common-cold virus WWW.REUTERS.COM The Omicron variant of the virus that causes COVID-19 likely acquired at least one of its mutations by picking up a snippet of genetic material from another virus - possibly one that causes the common cold - present in the same infected cells, according to researchers. Quote The Omicron variant of the virus that causes COVID-19 likely acquired at least one of its mutations by picking up a snippet of genetic material from another virus - possibly one that causes the common cold - present in the same infected cells, according to researchers. This genetic sequence does not appear in any earlier versions of the coronavirus, called SARS-CoV-2, but is ubiquitous in many other viruses including those that cause the common cold, and also in the human genome, researchers said. By inserting this particular snippet into itself, Omicron might be making itself look "more human," which would help it evade attack by the human immune system, said Venky Soundararajan of Cambridge, Massachusetts-based data analytics firm nference, who led the study posted on Thursday on the website OSF Preprints. This could mean the virus transmits more easily, while only causing mild or asymptomatic disease. Scientists do not yet know whether Omicron is more infectious than other variants, whether it causes more severe disease or whether it will overtake Delta as the most prevalent variant. It may take several weeks to get answers to these questions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Omicron variant may have picked up a piece of common-cold virus WWW.REUTERS.COM The Omicron variant of the virus that causes COVID-19 likely acquired at least one of its mutations by picking up a snippet of genetic material... Sort of incredible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 My wife got her antibody levels checked this week and we got the results - 2400 u/ml. For reference, I had 750 u/ml, and our daughter had 150 u/ml. I think this all makes sense, given our differences: My wife was both vaccinated with J&J in April, and subsequently got COVID in June. I got both Moderna shots in March, and never got COVID when my wife and daughter got infected. My daughter was unvaccinated when she contracted COVID in June, and she beat it in a matter of days. With my booster, hopefully I get quite a few more antibodies built up in my system as Omicron starts to become prevalent. But I guess we'll see just how effective current immunity is against this new variant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Good thread, you should read the whole thing. But, the potentially hopeful part: tl;dr: We will likely (almost certainly) see the vaccines lose efficacy on preventing infection. However, boosters may help with that (due to sheer volume of antibody response), and t-cell response (which helps against severe illness) should likely remain strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Maybe I should get a 4th Shot/Second Booster in Feb-March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Omicron variant may have picked up a piece of common-cold virus WWW.REUTERS.COM The Omicron variant of the virus that causes COVID-19 likely acquired at least one of its mutations by picking up a snippet of genetic material from another virus - possibly one that causes the common cold - present in the same... It THINKS IT'S PEOPLE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 30 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Good thread, you should read the whole thing. But, the potentially hopeful part: tl;dr: We will likely (almost certainly) see the vaccines lose efficacy on preventing infection. However, boosters may help with that (due to sheer volume of antibody response), and t-cell response (which helps against severe illness) should likely remain strong. I told y’all this about B and T cells many months ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Pa. has its first confirmed case of omicron coronavirus variant WWW.WGAL.COM Pennsylvania is one of eight states with known omicron cases. Well, it was nice knowing you all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 I got the Moderna booster this morning. Typically the booster symptoms are worse than the second dose, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, Komusha said: I got the Moderna booster this morning. Typically the booster symptoms are worse than the second dose, correct? I had a few hours in the middle of the night with fever and chills after my second shot, but I felt almost nothing from my Pfizer booster other than a sore arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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