TyphoidHater Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Jason said: We knew this was the answer in September but instead we had to go and fuck up the messaging. And we only broadly approved boosters right as 5-11 was gonna be approved, very smart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Jason said: We knew this was the answer in September but instead we had to go and fuck up the messaging. And we only broadly approved boosters right as 5-11 was gonna be approved, very smart! Everyone knew (except @sblfilms) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Outspoken doctor (pro-vaccine) from Alberta banned from Twitter after being doxxed/targeted by Qanon chuds and right-wing groups (I even believe some right-wing news). He said he'd been getting more and more harassed in the past week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-29/young-kids-make-up-10-of-hospital-cases-in-omicron-epicenter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 There is little doubt in my mind that the Western response (possibly "overreaction") to Omicron is going to only further Africa's geo-political embrace of China, especially with China seizing the opportunity to curry favor: China's Xi pledges another 1 billion Covid-19 vaccine doses for Africa WWW.CNBC.COM China will deliver another 1 billion doses of Covid-19 vaccines to Africa and encourage Chinese companies to invest no less than $10 billion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 The Western world is tired, low energy. We just need a spa day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pickle Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 21 hours ago, johnny said: my uncle was kind of a hippy. hung out in SF and was all peace and love. now he is super anti immigrant and votes red Hippy is just short for hypocrite (hippocrite). They are usually the worst type of people. The men are likely sexual predators and they are all moochers. I helped out a hippy by letting him stay at our house (planned for a month but 2 and a half later I kicked him out) and I came up with a saying for them. "su casa es mi casa!" I generally despise hippies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 58 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: There is little doubt in my mind that the Western response (possibly "overreaction") to Omicron is going to only further Africa's geo-political embrace of China, especially with China seizing the opportunity to curry favor: China's Xi pledges another 1 billion Covid-19 vaccine doses for Africa WWW.CNBC.COM China will deliver another 1 billion doses of Covid-19 vaccines to Africa and encourage Chinese companies to invest no less than $10 billion Omicron COVID variant was in Europe before South African scientists detected and flagged it to the world WWW.CBSNEWS.COM Authorities in the Netherlands say testing has confirmed that COVID cases identified on November 19 and 23 were the new strain – days before researchers identified it. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 @Jasoncalled it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: I thought this was already the case, are they just lowering the age that needs to be vaccinated? Also, just fucking ugh that this is still uncontrolled for US domestic travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jason said: I thought this was already the case, are they just lowering the age that needs to be vaccinated? Also, just fucking ugh that this is still uncontrolled for US domestic travel. Until today unvaccinated 12+ could still fly, but needed a negative test. Now there is no test exemption, all travellers must be vaccinated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Quote Israel’s health minister has suggested that individuals fully vaccinated against Covid – and within six months of a booster – may also be protected against the Omicron variant. Nitzan Horowitz was speaking on Tuesday after another two cases of individuals infected with the variant were identified in Israel bringing the country’s total to four. Without citing any data, Horowitz told local reporters: "In the coming days we will have more accurate information about the efficacy of the vaccine against Omicron - but there is already room for optimism, and there are initial indications that those who are vaccinated with a vaccine still valid or with a booster, will also be protected from this variant." Horowitz’s comments came after Israel head of Public Health Services, Dr Sharon Alroy-Preis, said that the first data about the efficacy of the coronavirus vaccines against the Omicron would be available during the course of the day. Horowitz’s remarks come amid conflicting information about how effective various vaccines and therapies are likely to be against the new variant. Earlier on Tuesday the German pharmaceutical company Merck said it expected its Covid-19 drug to be effective in treating the variant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Apparently a 3-dosed doctor passed it to another 3-dosed doctor (in Israel), and people are freaking out online. But it's important to realize that this is already happening with Delta. There is no word on what (if any) symptoms these doctors had/have. As long as the vaccines protect against severe infection (and hopefully long covid) then they are a success. If they also protect against catching it (and spreading it) then that is even better. But the first part is the most important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I want to get my booster soon since I am eligible, but I am still getting over a sinus/ear infection that has left me with a ringing ear with pain and pressure. I don’t want to add vaccine symptoms to my current state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Getting off message about the goal of the vaccines with focus going to the great benefit of decreased infections was a mistake. Should have just stuck to reporting the rate drops on hospitalization and death for the vaccinated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Getting off message about the goal of the vaccines with focus going to the great benefit of decreased infections was a mistake. Should have just stuck to reporting the rate drops on hospitalization and death for the vaccinated. I flip flop on having this POV and wondering how much messaging matters when disinformation abounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chollowa Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Had my Moderna booster yesterday and just like the 2nd dose it really knocked me on my ass. I took Nyquil before going to bed last night so I don't think my fever got too high, but the body aches and lethargy are definitely strong today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Womp, womp: Efficacy of Merck’s Thor-inspired COVID pill crumbles, vexing experts ARSTECHNICA.COM FDA advisors voted 13-to-10 in favor of authorization given risks and modest benefits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, Jason said: Womp, womp: Efficacy of Merck’s Thor-inspired COVID pill crumbles, vexing experts ARSTECHNICA.COM FDA advisors voted 13-to-10 in favor of authorization given risks and modest benefits. Approved despite worries it'll cause mutations, BTW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 Covid: Greece to fine over-60s who refuse Covid-19 vaccine WWW.BBC.COM Fines of €100 (£85) will be imposed from mid-January, with the money going towards healthcare. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 Global markets fall after Moderna Omicron warning WWW.BBC.COM Stock markets slide after Moderna boss casts doubt on vaccine effectiveness against new variant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 4 hours ago, sblfilms said: Getting off message about the goal of the vaccines with focus going to the great benefit of decreased infections was a mistake. Should have just stuck to reporting the rate drops on hospitalization and death for the vaccinated. This is exactly what the purpose of vaccination is - to reduce serious illness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: This is exactly what the purpose of vaccination is - to reduce serious illness. Yes, and the media and (American) government messaging became way too focused on the initial success with preventing infection. Not even getting into the people who simply were never going to get it, the actual goal and resounding success of the vaccines in achieving that goal was undermined by the focus on preventing infection. Not sure if people remember, but we had tons of people avoiding the J&J vaccine here because it didn’t prevent infection at the same rate as the mRNA vaccines. Now we have people who were vaccinated that are questioning whether or not the vaccines are useful because the infection prevention is potentially diminishing over time despite the protection against severe disease remaining incredibly high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pickle Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Chollowa said: Had my Moderna booster yesterday and just like the 2nd dose it really knocked me on my ass. I took Nyquil before going to bed last night so I don't think my fever got too high, but the body aches and lethargy are definitely strong today. Moderna kicked my ass. Think I’m gonna go for a mix this round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Jason said: Approved despite worries it'll cause mutations, BTW. And some of the yes votes indicated they may want to revisit it when more treatments are available. It was a pretty half assed recommendation. I hope Pfizer's is much safer and better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I had a weird dream. I went to see a doctor and was COVID positive, but they wanted me to sign a paper because part of the treatment was they said they needed to make an incision in the back of my throat. But I hesitated because I wasn't even showing symptoms and I don't think that's a thing they do. Do they actually make an incision in the back of your throat as part of a COVID treatment? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skillzdadirecta Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, Jason said: Wtf does that even mean? The virus IS adjusting to us you idiot! Wtf does he think the variants are? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Wtf does that even mean? The virus IS adjusting to us you idiot! Wtf does he think the variants are? If you's so smart then howz come he's the judge? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Anti-vaccine Christian broadcaster Marcus Lamb dies after Covid battle WWW.NBCNEWS.COM Marcus Lamb, a co-founder and the CEO of the conservative Christian Daystar Television Network who vocally opposed Covid-19 vaccines, has died at 64, weeks 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Confirming what we already suspected. Trump tested positive for Covid few days before Biden debate, chief of staff says in new book | Donald Trump | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Mark Meadows makes stunning admission in new memoir obtained by Guardian, saying a second test returned negative 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Jason said: Confirming what we already suspected. Trump tested positive for Covid few days before Biden debate, chief of staff says in new book | Donald Trump | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Mark Meadows makes stunning admission in new memoir obtained by Guardian, saying a second test returned negative That is why he was spitting around yelling and cutting him off, he wanted to make him sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I signed up to get my booster on Thursday. I was actually surprised that most of the appointments near me were filled up, so I'm going to a Kroger about 5 miles from my house. Not a huge deal, but there has to be 20 locations closer than than, all of which didn't have any slots available when I wanted to do it tomorrow afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 the county where i grew up is #1 in deaths/100k since 6/30/21 in ohio. scioto, jackson, vinton, highland, brown are all above 100 deaths/100k since 6/30/21 and are all contiguous in the Appalachian region. the flip side is Athens county. same region but vaccination makes all the difference! (its also the home of Ohio University, so education polarization in partisanship shows its face again!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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