Disney seizes power in central Florida

[CitizenVectron]

DeSantis’ Reedy Creek board says Disney stripped its power

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Disney and the previous Reedy Creek board agreed to revert decisions back to Disney World, which could render DeSantis’ board powerless.

 

As Florida moves to assert state control over Disney's land in Florida, the company has rushed through motions giving it total control over the area, including control over the board that governs the land, basically defying the state. The board was picked by DeSantis, but Disney's declaration was actually passed one day before the state house allowed the governor to do that, throwing the whole thing in question.

 

The best part? Disney's declaration has a unique end date:

 

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That declaration is valid until “21 years after the death of the last survivor of the descendants of King Charles III, king of England,” according to the document.

 

 

Also, I do recognize that Florida is technically in the right, here, in that megacorps shouldn't be allowed to just be government...but Florida has benefited from this for decades, and is revoking it for purely bigoted reasons. No good guys in this fight.

[LionFranco]

Whether i like Disney or not is moot, but them defying DeStupid, just has me laughing!

[skillzdadirecta]

Man I look forward to Trump eviscerating this clown if he's stupid enough to run. DeSantis is an even bigger case of the emperor having no clothes than Trump is. He's a Rupert Murdoch creation that is basically an empty suit.

[CayceG]

Ron DeSantis is about to have to ally with Joe Biden to reignite the IRA to speed up that end date. 

[MarSolo]

[Reputator]

Oh, this is RICH.

 

And DeSantis is spending millions of Florida taxpayer dollars to fight it. Fuck that clown.

[Chairslinger]

1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Man I look forward to Trump eviscerating this clown if he's stupid enough to run. DeSantis is an even bigger case of the emperor having no clothes than Trump is. He's a Rupert Murdoch creation that is basically an empty suit.

 

 

When people would say that DeSantis could be more dangerous than Trump because he's smarter I just laughed.

 

DeSantis is just as dumb as Trump, he's just less brash. Say less shit and more carefully and you are going to sound less dumb, usually.

 

He isn't smart Trump, he is just Trump without the charisma.

[SaysWho?]

lmao

[MarSolo]

If you aim at the Mouse you best not miss.

 

[SaysWho?]

[mclumber1]

10 minutes ago, MarSolo said:

If you aim at the Mouse you best not miss.

 

 

So fake.  DC would never be the final gem.  At best, DC would be the that annoying piece of spinach that gets stuck between your teeth after dinner. 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Grand Moff Tarkin : The Florida Governor will no longer be of any concern to us. I've just received word that the Mouse has dissolved the council permanently. The last remnants of the Reedy Creek Improvement District have been swept away.

General Tagge : That's impossible! How will the Mouse maintain control without the bureaucracy?

Grand Moff Tarkin : The park ride attendants now have direct control over their territories. Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this trans friendly battle station.

[SuperSpreader]

The enemy of my enemy 

[outsida]

4 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Man I look forward to Trump eviscerating this clown if he's stupid enough to run. DeSantis is an even bigger case of the emperor having no clothes than Trump is. He's a Rupert Murdoch creation that is basically an empty suit.

 

His suit looks pretty “full” here..?

[ThreePi]

14 minutes ago, outsida said:

 

His suit looks pretty “full” here..?

 

Is that not just from Madam Tussaud's Wax Museum?

[Air_Delivery]

1 hour ago, outsida said:

 

His suit looks pretty “full” here..?

His pecs are trying to burst out bro

[skillzdadirecta]

42 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said:

His pecs  breasts are trying to burst out bro

 

[Xbob42]

Is that what you kids call a "smoke show"?

[Chairslinger]

4 hours ago, outsida said:

 

His suit looks pretty “full” here..?

 

 

He really looks like a panel opens somewhere on his torso to reveal a Men in Black alien....

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

7 hours ago, outsida said:

 

His suit looks pretty “full” here..?

He got his “standing normally like an adult human male” degree from the same school trump got his, Trump university 

[Zaku3]

8 hours ago, SuperSpreader said:

The enemy of my enemy 

 

Is not my friend in this case.

[jinx8402]

11 hours ago, Reputator said:

Oh, this is RICH.

 

And DeSantis is spending millions of Florida taxpayer dollars to fight it. Fuck that clown.

In an odd twist, Disney is paying to sue themselves. The district themselves are the ones retaining lawyers and the district is funded 100% by taxes of property owners.

 

Remember, the district was not dissolved like the original plan. Because the idiots did not realize that if that happened all the extra taxes Disney pays to the special district would go away, and the debts would fall on the counties themselves. So this is why in the special session last month they wrote a new bill that nullified the previous bill and they only renamed the current district and changed the make-up to be state appointed instead of by the property owners inside the district. So much for Taxation without representation.

 

Also side note, Disney paid taxes to BOTH Orange and Osceola Counties. This is in addition to what they pay the special district. So all that "they don't pay their fair share" was a bunch of bs in the first place in this particular instance. They didn't even receive most services the counties usually provide either, since the special district manages road works, uitilities, EMT (why you never pay for an ambulance while at WDW) and fire.

[Signifyin(g)Monkey]

Not gonna lie, read the thread title and had a vision of Roger Iger and a crowd of people in Mickey Mouse outfits raiding the chamber of the Florida legislature in Tallahassee.

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, jinx8402 said:

Also side note, Disney paid taxes to BOTH Orange and Osceola Counties. This is in addition to what they pay the special district. So all that "they don't pay their fair share" was a bunch of bs in the first place in this particular instance. They didn't even receive most services the counties usually provide either, since the special district manages road works, uitilities, EMT (why you never pay for an ambulance while at WDW) and fire.

The special district isn’t about taxation, it’s about corporate control of normal government functions.

[silentbob]

1 hour ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said:

Not gonna lie, read the thread title and had a vision of Roger Iger and a crowd of people in Mickey Mouse outfits raiding the chamber of the Florida legislature in Tallahassee.

I’d imagine it would look something like this

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

50 minutes ago, silentbob said:

I’d imagine it would look something like this

Can we talk about just how fucking long Mickey was sleeping for the room to fill with water from one single magic broom???

 

lazy fucking mouse

[ort]

When I was a rebellious youth, Disney was always considered to be one of the largest, most litigious, most vile, hyper conservative corporations out there... it's very weird how they somehow became a "hero" of the left. If you were making a 4 horsemen of the corporate apocalypse, Mickey Mouse/Disney would have always been one of the horsemen.

 

I'm still not buying it. I watch plenty of Disney shit and give them money, but they'll always be the evil empire to me. I don't care if they occasionally put a few lesbian characters into their kids shows.

[PaladinSolo]

31 minutes ago, ort said:

When I was a rebellious youth, Disney was always considered to be one of the largest, most litigious, most vile, hyper conservative corporations out there... it's very weird how they somehow became a "hero" of the left. If you were making a 4 horsemen of the corporate apocalypse, Mickey Mouse/Disney would have always been one of the horsemen.

 

I'm still not buying it. I watch plenty of Disney shit and give them money, but they'll always be the evil empire to me. I don't care if they occasionally put a few lesbian characters into their kids shows.

I don't think anyone is saying Disney is in any way a hero of the left or any of that shit, its just the right is so bonkers and far off that even when doing a thing that should happen they're going about it in such a bad way that Disney fucking them over in any way is just funny.  Like they shouldn't have control over their own special district, but at the same time a bunch of far right stooges shouldn't be appointed with the goal of fucking Disney over simply because they didn't agree with a policy from the government.

[SaysWho?]

32 minutes ago, ort said:

When I was a rebellious youth, Disney was always considered to be one of the largest, most litigious, most vile, hyper conservative corporations out there... it's very weird how they somehow became a "hero" of the left. If you were making a 4 horsemen of the corporate apocalypse, Mickey Mouse/Disney would have always been one of the horsemen.

 

I'm still not buying it. I watch plenty of Disney shit and give them money, but they'll always be the evil empire to me. I don't care if they occasionally put a few lesbian characters into their kids shows.

They’re not a hero to the left, so much as the state government tried to take over part of a private corporation because the corporation said something bad about an anti-lgbtq bill, and the state government was just embarrassed by said corp.

 

 We can talk about the problems with Disney, but a far right government retaliating against a company for speaking, firing attorneys for speaking, destroying liberal schools with the goal of making them conservatives Christian schools headed by culture warriors, going after school board members and getting involved in races that are supposed to be nonpartisan… yes, Disney is the good guy in this situation.

[Ghost_MH]

8 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said:

Like they shouldn't have control over their own special district, but at the same time a bunch of far right stooges shouldn't be appointed with the goal of fucking Disney over simply because they didn't agree with a policy from the government.

 

After these recent changes, how much control does Disney have over the district now? Really seems like they now just run a huge ass HOA with private security and fire.

[Zaku3]

49 minutes ago, SaysWho? said:

They’re not a hero to the left, so much as the state government tried to take over part of a private corporation because the corporation said something bad about an anti-lgbtq bill, and the state government was just embarrassed by said corp.

 

 We can talk about the problems with Disney, but a far right government retaliating against a company for speaking, firing attorneys for speaking, destroying liberal schools with the goal of making them conservatives Christian schools headed by culture warriors, going after school board members and getting involved in races that are supposed to be nonpartisan… yes, Disney is the good guy in this situation.

 

He is saying they still aren't. If you are cheering on "your team" then this is circus. If you recognize the Republicans as the neo-nazi threat this is circus because Disney is gonna be on a Nazi in list. I can't be on their in list. Who I am is on their shit list. What I am is on their shit list. Yes I can stop being a socialist but I can't stop being a minority.

 

Disney is Krupp or Porsche or closer to home IBM, Ford, Coca Cola.

[Brick]

3 hours ago, silentbob said:

I’d imagine it would look something like this

 

I'd imagine it more like that scene from the movie adaptation of V for Vendetta when a bunch of civilians put on the Guy Fawkes masks, only it's Mickey Mouse masks instead. 

[TwinIon]

1 hour ago, Ghost_MH said:

After these recent changes, how much control does Disney have over the district now? Really seems like they now just run a huge ass HOA with private security and fire.

Assuming that these recent changes don't get struck down in court, Disney still has approval rights for what gets built in the district, what advertisements can be present in the district, approval over aesthetic changes to existing properties, and they've been granted maximum allowable density and height limits on anything they build.

 

It wasn't exactly clear how long each thing lasts, but it does seem like Disney has (for now) kept most of what they were interested in preserving with Reedy Creek.

[Ghost_MH]

7 minutes ago, TwinIon said:

Assuming that these recent changes don't get struck down in court, Disney still has approval rights for what gets built in the district, what advertisements can be present in the district, approval over aesthetic changes to existing properties, and they've been granted maximum allowable density and height limits on anything they build.

 

It wasn't exactly clear how long each thing lasts, but it does seem like Disney has (for now) kept most of what they were interested in preserving with Reedy Creek.

 

With Disney owning the vast majority of the land there, it still sounds a lot like an HOA now that they don't also control maintenance for the roads and other public spaces. I imagine Disney may look to spend the next hundred years buying up the chunks of land they don't already own.

 

I guess if Florida really wants to mess with them, they could now refuse to fix pot holes and set the speed limit within the entire district to like 100mph.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Ghost_MH said:

 

With Disney owning the vast majority of the land there, it still sounds a lot like an HOA now that they don't also control maintenance for the roads and other public spaces. I imagine Disney may look to spend the next hundred years buying up the chunks of land they don't already own.

 

I guess if Florida really wants to mess with them, they could now refuse to fix pot holes and set the speed limit within the entire district to like 100mph.

If they weren’t in a special district they control, they wouldn’t be able to develop their property the way they do. It’s much more than an HOA. They save millions, probably now billions over the years, bypassing the development process corps in traditional cities and counties go through.