~*The Official Thread of Hero Cop Valor and Bravery*~

[thewhyteboar]

There's not a single clean cop in this country. A clean cop wouldn't stand there while his coworkers did that.

[johnny]

they posted the bodycam footage 

[Bloodporne]

15 hours ago, thewhyteboar said:

Even if for some reason you don't believe that police are racist, they are so bad at their jobs that every single one of them should be fired. If a server messes up orders they get fired, but police can kill kids and well, them's the breaks.

Absolute worst case scenario and shit hits the fan, how are they not trained, and required, to not immediately go for fatal shots in a situation like this? They all just blast away like they're Rambo seemingly every time. If you absolutely have to fucking shoot, can't you shoot someone in the leg, shoulder, I don't know wherever instead of just unloading on their entire body??

[Spawn_of_Apathy]

16 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

 

i watched the body cam footage this morning. She was close enough and in motion to stab somebody with the knife. They were brawling outside on the side walk when the officer arrived. 
 

I’m rarely one to defend the officer, but based on the footage I saw, he saved another girl’s life by shooting the one with the knife. 

[CastlevaniaNut18]

3 hours ago, Bloodporne said:

Absolute worst case scenario and shit hits the fan, how are they not trained, and required, to not immediately go for fatal shots in a situation like this? They all just blast away like they're Rambo seemingly every time. If you absolutely have to fucking shoot, can't you shoot someone in the leg, shoulder, I don't know wherever instead of just unloading on their entire body??

No, no, no, NO. You aim for center mass every time. Guns are meant to kill, not disarm. When your draw your gun, that means you're prepared to kill. This isn't a movie and trying to aim for smaller targets, like extremities isn't a thing. Trained cops don't even hit their targets much of the time, so trying to aim for an arm or leg in a high stress scenario is totally ridiculous.

 

I haven't seen this video, so I'm not commenting on whether the use of force was justified here. Just the general idea that seems to come up every single time that this is some Clint Eastwood movie and cops should shoot the weapon out of someone's hand. That's not how it works. Ever.

[Bloodporne]

Just now, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

No, no, no, NO. You aim for center mass every time. Guns are meant to kill, not disarm. When your draw your gun, that means you're prepared to kill. This isn't a movie and trying to aim for smaller targets, like extremities isn't a thing. Trained cops don't even hit their targets much of the time, so trying to aim for an arm or leg in a high stress scenario is totally ridiculous.

 

I haven't seen this video, so I'm not commenting on whether the use of force was justified here. Just the general idea that seems to come up every single time that this is some Clint Eastwood movie and cops should shoot the weapon out of someone's hand. That's not how it works. Ever.

Calm down, I didn't say that's what I WANT them to do. I don't know shit about guns hence my million questions marks asking why this is never the case. As someone who doesn't use guns, yeah, I don't understand if they're so horny to use them why it has to be a Rambo execution every time. That's all I meant. 

[CastlevaniaNut18]

Just now, Bloodporne said:

Calm down, I didn't say that's what I WANT them to do. I don't know shit about guns hence my million questions marks asking why this is never the case. As someone who doesn't use guns, yeah, I don't understand if they're so horny to use them why it has to be a Rambo execution every time. That's all I meant. 

It just gets brought up all  the time and I'm still kinda surprised people don't know when it's been debunked over and over. Not just here, but everywhere. 100% not how this works.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

If you can't shoot a weapon out of a perps hand why are you even a cop

[Guest]

I don't like police shooting people, but dude shot somebody about to swing a knife into another person. Pretty much the only positions you can take is either it was a good shoot or you simply don't want police to have guns at all.

[Bloodporne]

26 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

It just gets brought up all  the time and I'm still kinda surprised people don't know when it's been debunked over and over. Not just here, but everywhere. 100% not how this works.

Understood  

 

Edit: And clearly not in this particular situation after watching the body cam footage just now.

[Anathema-]

You shoot to kill because anything less intentionally introduces uncertainty in where that bullet ends up. 

[Kal-El814]

1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

If you can't shoot a weapon out of a perps hand why are you even a cop

 

It’s like Goldeneye on the N64 where you played pistols only, license to kill. You shoot someone and think you’re hot shit, only you realize you hit your gun then they blow you away. If I can do it with single analog stick console aiming you think a cop can’t do it IRL?

[Spawn_of_Apathy]

1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

If you can't shoot a weapon out of a perps hand why are you even a cop

if they can’t shoot a fired bullet with their own bullet then they need more training before they can be cleared to carry on duty. 

[Jason]

29 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said:

if they can’t shoot a fired bullet with their own bullet then they need more training before they can be cleared to carry on duty. 

 

If you can't catch a bullet and flick it back at the head of the guy who shot it at you with enough force to knock him over then what are you even doing as a cop?

[cusideabelincoln]

I watched the body cam and the shooting officer seemed very fresh and had no idea what to do.  He just shows up and doesn't even announce his presence, not to mention the almost victim of being knifed was in the line if fire. After watching the press conference, dude was only a cop for a year.  

 

Oh wait, he was in the Air Force and received marksman badges   Shoot first, ask questions later.

 

Oh shit, and his dad actually taught basic training for the police.  WTF.

 

Columbus Cop Who Fatally Shot Black Teen Was Military-Trained Marksman

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Authorities on Wednesday released two 911 calls made ahead of the shooting, in which a female voice warns people are “trying to stab us, trying to put their hands on our grandma.”

 

[bojingles]

You people are bat shit fucking insane if you think that cop did anything wrong.

 

And to the morons who think shooting knives out of the hands of people is what should be done, stop watching movies and playing video games and get back to reality.

 

 

Not every cop is a racist lunatic filled with delusions of hate and power. Way more good cops then bad. I know I have seen some bad ones in my time. This cop was one of the good ones.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

2 minutes ago, bojingles said:

You people are bat shit fucking insane if you think that cop did anything wrong.

 

And to the morons who think shooting knives out of the hands of people is what should be done, stop watching movies and playing video games and get back to reality.

 

 

Not every cop is a racist lunatic filled with delusions of hate and power. Way more good cops then bad. I know I have seen some bad ones in my time. This cop was one of the good ones.

Found the dumbass

[Jason]

9 minutes ago, bojingles said:

You people are bat shit fucking insane if you think that cop did anything wrong.

 

And to the morons who think shooting knives out of the hands of people is what should be done, stop watching movies and playing video games and get back to reality.

 

 

Not every cop is a racist lunatic filled with delusions of hate and power. Way more good cops then bad. I know I have seen some bad ones in my time. This cop was one of the good ones.

 

This has to be someone's alt, this is the account's first post on here since the boards shit the bed.

[Air_Delivery]

20 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

This has to be someone's alt, this is the account's first post on here since the boards shit the bed.

it has the distinct stench of jigs.

[Captain Pickle]

54 minutes ago, bojingles said:

You people are bat shit fucking insane if you think that cop did anything wrong.

 

And to the morons who think shooting knives out of the hands of people is what should be done, stop watching movies and playing video games and get back to reality.

 

 

Not every cop is a racist lunatic filled with delusions of hate and power. Way more good cops then bad. I know I have seen some bad ones in my time. This cop was one of the good ones.

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[Ricofoley]

 

[Fizzzzle]

This is one of those situations where it seemed to me like someone showing up with a gun just made things more dangerous. I watched the footage, the whole incident happens over like 3 seconds. It's not the most egregious cop shooting I've ever seen, but it was one of those situations where the cop literally shows up ready to shoot in a situation where there probably could have been a deescalation solution if he just tried to calm everyone down first.

 

Understand that to say I'm not calling for this cops head or anything, I just think it highlights the problem with policing in the first place.

[mclumber1]

The cop did nothing wrong in this case.  If he didn't shoot the perpetrator, the other woman might be badly injured (attempted murder) or dead (murder) from getting knifed.  

 

It sucks for everyone involved in this, but come on - The police officer had no choice.  

[Fizzzzle]

16 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

The cop did nothing wrong in this case.  If he didn't shoot the perpetrator, the other woman might be badly injured (attempted murder) or dead (murder) from getting knifed.  

 

It sucks for everyone involved in this, but come on - The police officer had no choice.  

Eh... "No choice" is a stretch to me, but it's not like what he did is making me particularly angry, either

[mclumber1]

1 minute ago, Fizzzzle said:

Eh... "No choice" is a stretch to me, but it's not like what he did is making me particularly angry, either

 

Yeah if I was about to get stabbed by some attacker, I'd want the police officer to neutralize the threat.    Shooting the knife out of her hand, or shooting her in the leg was not an option, and a taser would have maybe a 50% chance of actually working correctly.

[Fizzzzle]

8 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

 

Yeah if I was about to get stabbed by some attacker, I'd want the police officer to neutralize the threat.    Shooting the knife out of her hand, or shooting her in the leg was not an option, and a taser would have maybe a 50% chance of actually working correctly.

I mean, in a situation like what was in the video, there was every likelihood he would have shot the wrong person. It was literally a crowd of people standing around a moving target. Plus stab wounds aren't fatal the vast majority of the time. I think if he showed up and was more like "police, everyone calm the fuck down," no one would have died. Maybe.

 

Like I said, it's not like I think it's egregious or anything, but I think it could have gone more wrong than it did in so many ways, and there was probably a better way to go about it

[cusideabelincoln]

Not to mention the cop watched her try to "stab" the first lady but was just pushed to the ground.  The other lady was defending herself from the knife.  No one there had any defense from a bullet.

[Ghost_MH]

People would probably be a lot more would sympathetic if the cops weren't doing this shit...

 

On 4/20/2021 at 10:41 PM, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

 

 

[Ominous]

Sad situation? Sure.

Was the cop justified in using deadly force? Looks like it.

 

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Would a taser not have been enough? Why didn't they even try that? This wasn't a drugged up big man, it was a 15 year old girl.

 

Even still, assaulting someone else with a knife doesn't justify extrajudicial murder

[Spawn_of_Apathy]

2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Would a taser not have been enough? Why didn't they even try that? This wasn't a drugged up big man, it was a 15 year old girl.

 

Even still, assaulting someone else with a knife doesn't justify extrajudicial murder

so a girl posing an imminent danger isn’t enough? You’d be fine with her stabbing the other girl, which she was in the process of trying to do? 
 

Tasers fail often enough, she was in the move, far enough away the darts might not even land, and it’s not like she was a small 15 year old. She was a big girl. The cop was responding to a call where assault and an attempted stabbing or threading with a knife had already been reported. The potential for severe injury or loss of life was already something he had to be prepared for, and an assault continued right in front of him after he tried to announce himself, which is why he drew his gun. 
 

I’m sure in his state of mind he didn’t fire just to kill the one girl. It was to protect the other girl. He didn’t raise the gun until she began the attack with the knife. And she didn’t brandish the knife or anything, she just tried to attack. She didn’t give the cop any time.  

[Jason]

 

[Spawn_of_Apathy]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

thats why you can never run the football in the NFL or NCAA. Because the defense can tackle anyone 100% of the time in all situations. 

[Kal-El814]

There’s no doubt that if we change the ROE for police officers, or didn’t arm all of them with guns all the time, there would absolutely be situations in which people would be hurt or killed when they wouldn’t have been had the officer had a gun. Pointing those out doesn’t change the fact that police SHOULD have ROE changed and we SHOULD consider that maybe fewer people would die if the police weren’t all equipped with firearms.

[Captain Pickle]

3 hours ago, Ominous said:

Sad situation? Sure.

Was the cop justified in using deadly force? Looks like it.

 

 

Pretty much. I don’t like it being a kid and all and a minority but I understand it.  Do I think it could have gone differently if the victim was white? Absolutely. But getting shot in the act of attacking someone is justified.