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10 hours ago, SlipperySlope said:

Disney and Marvel both donated to Trump 

Not saying it didn't happen because I don't know everything, but do you have a source for this because I can't find any info on this and Trump HATES Bob Iger, who was a HUGE Hillary Supporter and was contemplating running for President himself.  

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2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Not saying it didn't happen because I don't know everything, but do you have a source for this because I can't find any info on this and Trump HATES Bob Iger, who was a HUGE Hillary Supporter and was contemplating running for President himself.  

 

Big companies will often donate to both candidates so that they have influence regardless of who wins.

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So many showed their asses by writing shit like, "It is necessary for the principle of free speech that the New York Times print Tom Cotton's military occupation op-ed, and it must be debated at length in the marketplace of ideas" only for NYT to come out and admit, "lol, we didn't even read it before we published it." Incredible.

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Just now, Jason said:

 

Big companies will often donate to both candidates so that they have influence regardless of who wins.

I understand that... and I'm sure that's what probably happened here. But in the 2016 election cycle Iger was stanning for Hillary big time and if  Disney did donate to the Trump campaign, I'd bet folding money that it was far less than what they donated to the Democrats. Again, I can't find any info online regarding them donating to Trump. Also what about Lucasfilm? Did they donate to Trump too? Pixar?

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23 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Not saying it didn't happen because I don't know everything, but do you have a source for this because I can't find any info on this and Trump HATES Bob Iger, who was a HUGE Hillary Supporter and was contemplating running for President himself.  


I can’t speak for Disney but Perlmutter is a HUGE Trump supporter.

 

https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/marvel-ike-perlmutter/

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On 6/3/2020 at 7:49 PM, ort said:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/03/us/david-dorn-st-louis-police-shot-trnd/index.html

 

It's sad how some things get lost in the shuffle of it all. This man was apparently a great guy and a true friend of the community. I did not know him, but one of my good friends, who is a st Louis city police officer is really broken up by his senseless death. He knew him well and worked with him for decades. He had so much respect for this man and is very broken up by his death.

 

And his death is not making the news. It's very sad.

 

On 6/3/2020 at 8:06 PM, skillzdadirecta said:

This is awful... I watched that video as he laid there dying and all I could think about was my father who just retired from the job last year and has done security when he was off duty. it's possible to hate the system but still allow for the humanity of police officers. But I know nuance is not in great supply these days... you're either on one side or the other. Either you're "Pro Law Enforcement" or you're in the ACAB camp (an acronym that the Anti-Defamation League associates with racist skinheads)... I don't know what the solution is but this shit is crazy.

I just had to have "The Talk" with my 15 year old nephew about what to do if and when he's ever confronted by police... I literally had that conversation five minutes before I typed this. It was NOT an easy conversation for ME to have. 

 

After seeing the video of him bleeding out on the ground, I have been thinking about David Dorn's murder for the last two days and attempting to frame it within the overall context of the current situation.  I freely admit that my white perspective is inherently incomplete and inherently flawed so my thoughts should in no way be intended or construed to be anything more than my (ultimately futile) attempts at "understanding", if such a thing is even possible (and  it probably isn't).  For me, David Dorn is just as much a victim of the systemic, structural devaluation of the lives of African-Americans within the greater society as George Floyd, David McAtee, Breonna Taylor, and Ahmaud Arbery.  His name should be mentioned alongside those names in any recitation of the deceased.

 

Let's get this out of the way first: the white commentators on the right who are attempting (and largely failing, for better or for  worse) to turn Dorn's murder into a cause celebre don't give one damn about David Dorn in death in much the same way as they sure as hell didn't give a damn about him in life.  Their sole objective is to use Dorn's murder as an all-too-convenient prop to discredit the entire law enforcement reform movement.  When a degenerate like Ian Miles Cheong "sincerely" tweets "David Dorn. Say his name.", their game is neither particularly clever, interesting, nor creative.  In fact, it's rather transparently pathetic, so let's not waste one more moment on this.

 

For the sake of argument, let's assume that David Dorn's killer was also African-American.  The unfortunate reality of American crime is that this isn't an unreasonable assumption as we all know that most crime is intraracial in nature and the area of St. Louis where he was murdered is predominantly African-American.  So, it's "reasonable" (a word that seems mockingly, woefully inadequate to use) that a young African-American man shot and murdered an older African-American man in the midst of a civil disturbance precipitated by yet another murder of an African-American man by a Caucasian-American police officer.

 

The media has consistently used the word "senseless" to describe Dorn's killing.  Over and over again, that word can be found in every television report and in every written story about this event.  It's not a bad word to use, because on the surface level it describes the act fairly well.  But that's only on the surface level, and scratch below that surface level and you'll find that the crime is ANYTHING BUT "senseless".  The crime makes FAR TOO MUCH sense when one goes just a little deeper into why someone would commit such a "nihilistic" (a VASTLY better word to use than "senseless") act of violence

 

That nihilism doesn't exist in a vacuum -- it has to come from somewhere.  It comes from an acceptance that his life doesn't matter because my life doesn't matter.  My life doesn't matter because society both tells and shows me that my life doesn't matter.  Society shows me that my life doesn't matter because the people whose job it is to protect society treat me like at best like an enemy and at worst like a sub-human.  Society shows me that my life doesn't matter because it can't be bothered to ensure that I receive a proper education.  Society shows me that my life doesn't matter because the only economic opportunities available to me are either menial labor or the "informal" economy.  Society shows me that my life doesn't matter because the only "legitimate" businesses in my neighborhood are a payday loan operation and a liquor store.  I can go on and on and on, and all of that is by design because it serves the purposes of the overall power structure to maintain a significant African-American underclass for social, political, and economic purposes.

 

With all that and more, how could someone NOT become a "nihilist"?  The more someone is subjected to psychological trauma -- and make no mistake, growing up African-American in many parts of the United States is VERY much a traumatic experience due to violence (the broadest sense of that word which encompasses physical, economic, social, etc. trauma) -- the more they begin to lose their sense of self-identity and self-worth.  Not only that, but their "circle of empathy" shrinks accordingly and may disappear entirely.  At that point, all that is left is a "depraved" form of nihilism where the id is dominant.  There is absolutely nothing "senseless" about this  in the least.  

 

The bottom-line is that David Dorn's killer pulled the trigger, but it was the ingrained structural prejudices of American society that effectively loaded the magazine into the  weapon, pulled back the slide to chamber the round, handed the gun to that young man, and guided his hand to point it at David Dorn.  At the very least, we're accessories to the murder of David Dorn just like those three other cops are accessories to the murder of George Floyd.

 

God damn us.

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26 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said:

With all that and more, how could someone NOT become a "nihilist"?  The more someone is subjected to psychological trauma -- and make no mistake, growing up African-American in many parts of the United States is VERY much a traumatic experience due to violence (the broadest sense of that word which encompasses physical, economic, social, etc. trauma) -- the more they begin to lose their sense of self-identity and self-worth.  Not only that, but their "circle of empathy" shrinks accordingly and may disappear entirely.  At that point, all that is left is a "depraved" form of nihilism where the id is dominant.  There is absolutely nothing "senseless" about this  in the least.  

 

Look at all the videos that come out of Russia of young men dangling themselves off of skyscrapers. That behavior doesn't make sense unless you've internalized the idea that your life is worthless and is likely to be randomly ended any number of other arbitrary and gruesome ways. The only difference here between Russia and the US here is that in the US only some of the population feels like their lives are so utterly disposable, whereas in Russia everyone expects it so it's way more normal to act in such a reckless manner.

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Here the thing. My wife is a mental health professional. At the end if the day she has to review all her notes and every other shred of documentation she has on the day to take these crazily meticulous notes of everything that happened with her clients to enter into her reports. If it is proven that she just bullshit her way through a day, she'd be fired, lose her license, and probably be in legal trouble for insurance fraud.

 

It is beyond me that cops can bullshit their way through official police reports with no consequences.

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