Ominous Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 11 hours ago, Nokra said: But for example I've seen on a lot of YouTube videos that charging on Electrify America (one of the largest providers) can be $0.45 or more per kWh, so with e.g. a 77.4 kWh Ioniq 5 battery, that'd be just under $35 for a charge. By contrast, at work we have slow level 2 chargers (I think they're 6 kWh shared between two plugs) but you're only charged $0.10 per kWh, so that same Ioniq 5 suddenly costs more like $7.50 to charge. I've got free 10 kWh chargers at work and a free 6 kWh charger 2 miles from my house. I'll use the one near my house Sunday morning when I go running. I've used like $11 of electricity at home this month, and I suspect May - October should be very little to none. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Tesla 1Q profit falls 55%, but stock jumps as company moves to speed production of cheaper vehicles APNEWS.COM Tesla’s first-quarter net income plummeted as falling global sales and price cuts sliced into the electric vehicle maker’s revenue and profit margins. what a fucking headline 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 28 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Tesla 1Q profit falls 55%, but stock jumps as company moves to speed production of cheaper vehicles APNEWS.COM Tesla’s first-quarter net income plummeted as falling global sales and price cuts sliced into the electric vehicle maker’s revenue and profit margins. what a fucking headline THIS IS GOOD FOR BITCOIN TESLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Investors looking for any reason to stop the bleeding. When Tesla gave a target to start model 2 production in second half next year, only for Musk to jump in with “if not late this year”, I’m surprised no one laughed. And he is still taking about that robot taxi pipe dream. Good luck to anyone who puts money in this stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Yeah the stock still shot up after hours because there's apparently enough credulous people willing to people whatever timelines Elon throws out on these things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Clearly you rubes are forgetting Tesla is a TECH company and not a CAR company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 36 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: Yeah the stock still shot up after hours because there's apparently enough credulous people willing to people whatever timelines Elon throws out on these things In a non-shithole country he'd be in prison a long time ago for all the blatant stock price manipulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 30 minutes ago, LazyPiranha said: Clearly you rubes are forgetting Tesla is a TECH company and not a CAR company What I always find amusing about this is that tech stocks soar because there's a rush to get in early before the company goes profitable or get in before some big acquisition. The other major tech companies near the top of the valuation charts are basically companies so huge we can't really picture the market without them. I don't understand where Tesla falls in there. The company is already twenty years old. They're already at the profitable stage of their existence...sort of. They're valued too high to actually be bought out by anyone. They don't have more street data than either Apple or Google. They own NACS, but they've given it away, royalty free. Their lead was in electric car sales, which they won't have for much longer, and battery production...which seems like an unfulfilled promise at this point. Everytime I see their stock rise I feel like I'm missing something and I just don't know what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Ghost_MH said: What I always find amusing about this is that tech stocks soar because there's a rush to get in early before the company goes profitable or get in before some big acquisition. The other major tech companies near the top of the valuation charts are basically companies so huge we can't really picture the market without them. I don't understand where Tesla falls in there. The company is already twenty years old. They're already at the profitable stage of their existence...sort of. They're valued too high to actually be bought out by anyone. They don't have more street data than either Apple or Google. They own NACS, but they've given it away, royalty free. Their lead was in electric car sales, which they won't have for much longer, and battery production...which seems like an unfulfilled promise at this point. Everytime I see their stock rise I feel like I'm missing something and I just don't know what. Woke mind virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 hours ago, LazyPiranha said: Clearly you rubes are forgetting Tesla is a TECH company and not a CAR company During the call Elon literally said that “Tesla should be valued as an AI and robotics company, not a car manufacturer!” … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 8 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Tesla 1Q profit falls 55%, but stock jumps as company moves to speed production of cheaper vehicles APNEWS.COM Tesla’s first-quarter net income plummeted as falling global sales and price cuts sliced into the electric vehicle maker’s revenue and profit margins. what a fucking headline On 4/21/2024 at 10:28 PM, Commissar SFLUFAN said: It's all-but-certain that Tesla put the "Model 2" on ice On 4/22/2024 at 3:48 AM, Spork3245 said: If enough people make fun of Musk over it, he’ll force it out even if it bankrupts Tesla. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TwinIon Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Quote On a conference call with analysts, CEO Elon Musk said he expects production to start in the second half of next year “if not late this year.” How can anyone seriously accept this kind of statement with any kind of confidence? The Cybertruck was years delayed. The Roadster is still MIA. They haven't even shown a willingness or capability to significantly overhaul any of the vehicles they've launched beyond ripping out the only functional interior they had ever designed. While I do think Tesla has squandered much of their lead, I don't think they're doomed. A successful Model 2 could be a big deal, but how can anyone read Elon saying "end of next year, or maybe end of this year!" and think that is an honest assessment of the project's status? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 45 minutes ago, TwinIon said: How can anyone seriously accept this kind of statement with any kind of confidence? The Cybertruck was years delayed. The Roadster is still MIA. They haven't even shown a willingness or capability to significantly overhaul any of the vehicles they've launched beyond ripping out the only functional interior they had ever designed. While I do think Tesla has squandered much of their lead, I don't think they're doomed. A successful Model 2 could be a big deal, but how can anyone read Elon saying "end of next year, or maybe end of this year!" and think that is an honest assessment of the project's status? It'll be infrastructure week in two weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 44 minutes ago, TwinIon said: A successful Model 2 could be a big deal That was the whole premise though wasn't it? Affordable electric vehicles for all. Now you can buy a Bolt for 26,000 so... I think the war is over. Tesla lost. Bolt - 26,000 Bolt EUV - 28,000 Equinox - 44,000 Inoiq - 37,000 Leaf, 28,000 MINI - 30,000 Mach-E - 40,000 EV6 - 42,000 EV9 - 54,000 Ariya, 39,000 bZRx - 43,000 id.4 - 40,000 https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/electric-cars https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/electric-suvs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, SuperSpreader said: That was the whole premise though wasn't it? Affordable electric vehicles for all. Now you can buy a Bolt for 26,000 so... I think the war is over. Tesla lost. Bolt - 26,000 Bolt EUV - 28,000 Equinox - 44,000 Inoiq - 37,000 Leaf, 28,000 MINI - 30,000 Mach-E - 40,000 EV6 - 42,000 EV9 - 54,000 Ariya, 39,000 bZRx - 43,000 id.4 - 40,000 https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/electric-cars https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/electric-suvs I'm not sure what the point of a list of cars that are nearly all out priced by the current $30k Model 3 is. The only exceptions are the Leaf and Bolt, neither of which are customers favorites. If a Model 2 could be made meaningfully cheaper than a Model 3 and be similarly outfitted, it would be competing with bestselling mainstays like the Accord, Civic, Corolla, and Camry. That's a lot of market potential. For all Tesla's troubles, the 3/Y still outsell all other EVs combined. I don't think it's crazy to think that a cheaper Model 2 could be extremely successful. I do think it's crazy to take Elon at his word that he could be shipping them this year (!?!) when we haven't seen any indication of the project and when Elon is asking shareholders for $56B while Telsa's profits nose-dive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 34 minutes ago, TwinIon said: I'm not sure what the point of a list of cars that are nearly all out priced by the current $30k Model 3 is. The only exceptions are the Leaf and Bolt, neither of which are customers favorites. If a Model 2 could be made meaningfully cheaper than a Model 3 and be similarly outfitted, it would be competing with bestselling mainstays like the Accord, Civic, Corolla, and Camry. That's a lot of market potential. For all Tesla's troubles, the 3/Y still outsell all other EVs combined. I don't think it's crazy to think that a cheaper Model 2 could be extremely successful. I do think it's crazy to take Elon at his word that he could be shipping them this year (!?!) when we haven't seen any indication of the project and when Elon is asking shareholders for $56B while Telsa's profits nose-dive. I suspect the customers who can mainly afford a 28k-ish car aren't able to invest in chargers and electrical work to support them. I dunno. Maybe I just hate Elon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, SuperSpreader said: Now you can buy a Bolt for 26,000 And then GM canceled the Bolt. The price for the new one presumably won't be that low. It'll also have their new shit in-house infotainment system instead of Android Auto/CarPlay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I don't know why they let him continue to lie about products for that company this long. I remember when he said a Tesla was going to use compressed gas thrusters, and he had a lot to say about the capabilities of Semi before it quietly was pushed out and never talked about again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Elon Musk wants to turn Tesla’s fleet into AWS for AI — would it work? - The Verge WWW.THEVERGE.COM Musk’s cool ideas rarely pan out. This seems like an obvious lie, but even if it wasn't a lie, why would you want it to be true if you were a Tesla owner? Your car battery would constantly be getting drained for something that has fuck all to do with you driving around from place to place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 34 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: Elon Musk wants to turn Tesla’s fleet into AWS for AI — would it work? - The Verge WWW.THEVERGE.COM Musk’s cool ideas rarely pan out. This seems like an obvious lie, but even if it wasn't a lie, why would you want it to be true if you were a Tesla owner? Your car battery would constantly be getting drained for something that has fuck all to do with you driving around from place to place. Far more likely that we discover in 2027 that Musk has been slowly draining batteries by using the onboard CPU to mine dogecoin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just got my new truck home to only have to go to work because someone called off so best pic I could get. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 4 hours ago, Littleronin said: Just got my new truck home to only have to go to work because someone called off so best pic I could get. A few months later and I still look forward to getting in and just going for a drive. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Threads just dethroned X, according to this key metric WWW.BUSINESSINSIDER.COM Launched less than a year ago, Threads is continuing to gain ground with users against its rival X. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 The article's pop up paywall prevents me from reading which key metric they're referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Threads Now Has More Daily Users Than X FUTURISM.COM Meta's Threads has had more daily active users in the US than Elon Musk's X-formerly-Twitter since at least December, according to estimates. TLDR: Threads has more Daily Users and more downloads from app stores. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I have never heard of anyone using Threads outside of that first week. I do live in a weird bubble though… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 43 minutes ago, Comet said: I have never heard of anyone using Threads outside of that first week. I do live in a weird bubble though… I personally don’t know a lot of people that use it either. But I’m on it frequently and the app/community itself is pretty active. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Network effect will drive further growth away from twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I know a couple of people that use it they generally post threads posts over X posts. They just need to work on the API so they embed on this boards better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 6 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: I know a couple of people that use it they generally post threads posts over X posts. They just need to work on the API so they embed on this boards better. Yeah, I mostly just use Threads now, and I hate sharing that content here because of how it embeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Just saw a Cyber Truck in real life for the first time in my work's parking lot. Even uglier in person. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted Sunday at 02:53 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:53 PM On 4/26/2024 at 11:59 AM, GeneticBlueprint said: Just saw a Cyber Truck in real life for the first time in my work's parking lot. Even uglier in person. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted Monday at 04:51 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:51 PM Elon Musk loses at Supreme Court in case over “funding secured” tweets ARSTECHNICA.COM Musk can't kill SEC settlement that requires pre-approval of tweets about Tesla. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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