Jason Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Don't even read the tweets tbh Especially the tweets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 Has there been any further information about the perpetrator of this abomination? Because I really haven't heard any more about him (admittedly, I've not been paying close attention). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Don't even read the tweets tbh I'm amazed you read the post you quoted tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Joe said: I'm amazed you read the post you quoted tbh Me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Apparently the gun used was a “pistol” style of the AR-15 platform. So super deadly weapon also comes in a fun size version for easier concealment. Like, there is literally no reason for such a thing to exist other than for mass shooters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Yeah, I was confused when they said it was a pistol... then I did some research and now I hate everything. The AR-15 pistol is the same exact gun, but with a 10" barrel and no stock. Gun companies pulled some shenanigans to get them legally classified as pistols so people can bypass the extra background checks on assault rifles. It's the exact same fucking gun. It's an Ar-15. It's a fucking joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/03/24/boulder-ar-556-pistol/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 You would think they would use an either/or type of classification. Like if it uses rifle ammo or if it has a barrel over a certain length. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 To me there isn't much difference between a semi automatic handgun and a semi automatic rifle. Rifles typically have a higher magazine capacity and longer barrels, but I have to think the Atlanta shooter could just as easily done what he did with a handgun as with an assault rifle. He wasn't shooting 25 people in one place, he was going from place to place. I wonder what would happen if for once one of these spree shooters was a black man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 23 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: To me there isn't much difference between a semi automatic handgun and a semi automatic rifle. Rifles typically have a higher magazine capacity and longer barrels, but I have to think the Atlanta shooter could just as easily done what he did with a handgun as with an assault rifle. He wasn't shooting 25 people in one place, he was going from place to place. I wonder what would happen if for once one of these spree shooters was a black man. Fresno shooting suspect accused of four murders admits he targeted white men - TheGrio : TheGrio THEGRIO.COM Kori Ali Muhammad is accused of killing four people in Fresno, Calif. and confessed to detectives in a recorded interview that he intentionally targeted white people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Jason Nightengale: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com HEAVY.COM Jason Nightengale is an Illinois man who went on a murderous shooting rampage throughout Chicago and Evanston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, sblfilms said: Apparently the gun used was a “pistol” style of the AR-15 platform. So super deadly weapon also comes in a fun size version for easier concealment. Like, there is literally no reason for such a thing to exist other than for mass shooters. It's a pistol in name only - it's still gigantic compared to even the largest "real" pistols on the market. Here is the AR pistol I built last year, compared to my 9mm pistol. Banana for scale: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I'm not a gun guy but that smaller pistol appears to be broken? Also that's just proving the point of how absurd that loophole is if that thing qualifies as a pistol for legal purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Air_Delivery said: You would think they would use an either/or type of classification. Like if it uses rifle ammo or if it has a barrel over a certain length. To be considered a rifle, it needs a buttstock and a barrel length over 16 inches. It would be a "short barreled rifle" if it has a buttstock and a barrel length under 16 inches (also requires a $200 tax stamp and a 3 to 6 month wait) It is a pistol if: It was never originally manufactured as a rifle, has no buttstock, and a barrel length less than 16 inches. This is all based on the 1930's era National Firearms Act which regulated machine guns, short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, and silencers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jason said: I'm not a gun guy but that smaller pistol appears to be broken? Also that's just proving the point of how absurd that loophole is if that thing qualifies as a pistol for legal purposes. Most semi-auto pistols have a barrel that pivots like that - it's part of how the action works and how the breach can remain locked in battery when a round is fired. There are videos on youtube that can explain it better than I can. Edit: The reason there is even a classification for short barreled rifles and shotguns in the NFA, was because when Congress was originally drafting this legislation, they intended to include handguns in the act. In order to prevent a loophole situation from happening, Congress added the short barreled definition, so people wouldn't just go and buy a small-ish rifle (not subject to NFA), and hack off the buttstock and most of the barrel. Ultimately the pistol language was removed, but for whatever reason the short barreled language stayed in and became law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, Remarkableriots said: Fresno shooting suspect accused of four murders admits he targeted white men - TheGrio : TheGrio THEGRIO.COM Kori Ali Muhammad is accused of killing four people in Fresno, Calif. and confessed to detectives in a recorded interview that he intentionally targeted white people I suppose it's a problem that we have so many mass shootings that I haven't even heard of some of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: I suppose it's a problem that we have so many mass shootings that I haven't even heard of some of them Probably because they both went on shooting sprees. I'm actually not sure if the Atlanta shooter is technically a mass murder either. Mass shootings usually involve shooting around four or more people as you can in as short a time as possible. I guess the Atlanta shooter might count here. These two guys ran around and shot one person here, one person there, and so on. Like, they're all terrible people, but they likely won't show up listed below... https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting Oh, hey look, 15 people shot in Chicago eleven days ago. At least 15 people shot, 2 killed in mass shooting on South Side - Chicago Monitor CHICAGOMONITOR.COM CHICAGO — At least 15 people were shot at a party Sunday morning in Chicago’s Greater Grand Crossing neighborhood, leaving at least two people dead, according to police. Police say 39-year-old Lionel... I didn't know about that one...or the 8 in Dallas this past Saturday... Dallas Police Identify Jonathanlacory Rogers As Suspect In Deadly Shooting At Pryme Bar Nightclub DFW.CBSLOCAL.COM Police said Rogers, 21, is wanted for murder and seven counts of aggravated assaults with a deadly weapon. I guess the are so many of them in the US, they don't make national news unless more than a few people die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 hours ago, ort said: Yeah, I was confused when they said it was a pistol... then I did some research and now I hate everything. The AR-15 pistol is the same exact gun, but with a 10" barrel and no stock. Gun companies pulled some shenanigans to get them legally classified as pistols so people can bypass the extra background checks on assault rifles. It's the exact same fucking gun. It's an Ar-15. It's a fucking joke. This is why gun nuts got upset when new stories went around talking about AR rifles and this and that. And they were like "Well AR is just the brand you can't ban this" or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 53 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: This is why gun nuts got upset when new stories went around talking about AR rifles and this and that. And they were like "Well AR is just the brand you can't ban this" or something like that. If you ever wanna make a conservative cry, just tell em that the AR stands for assault rifle. They will dissolve into a pillar of salt faster than Lot's wife. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Has there been any further information about the perpetrator of this abomination? Because I really haven't heard any more about him (admittedly, I've not been paying close attention). The guy isn’t white, so nobody cares anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Dodger said: The guy isn’t white, so nobody cares anymore. White people are so persecuted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dodger said: The guy isn’t white, so nobody cares anymore. What's wild is that it's not even a focus for Fox News either, but I'm assuming the issue there is that he isn't brown enough to tick the right boxes on their outrage machine. Either that or it was too close to the last shooting and they don't want their viewers to think mass shootings are an issue in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: What's wild is that it's not even a focus for Fox News either, but I'm assuming the issue there is that he isn't brown enough to tick the right boxes on their outrage machine. Either that or it was too close to the last shooting and they don't want their viewers to think mass shootings are an issue in this country. From what I’ve seen he hated Trump quite a bit and is a Syrian immigrant so you would think they’d be all over some Trump hating leftist immigrant killing ten white people, but he is pretty light skinned so maybe it is too hard to get the outrage meter up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I think its more the guy was clearly a nutcase so there is no real narrative to paint other than it highlights the need for background checks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I'm sure it'll be discussed more as his motivations are revealed. But it mostly sounds like he was severely mentally ill with paranoid delusions. And fuck these guns. No one needs them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Here's a fresh one 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 42 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Here's a fresh one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 46 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Here's a fresh one Feels reminiscent of Chris Benoit. I know conservatives love to use the mental health thing as a cure all distraction for shootings, but in this case I have a strong suspicion what this guy's CT scans would look like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 I do think it is fair to point out that white perp/minority victim stories tend to be assumed to be part of a larger story when they usually aren’t while the reverse is treated as the individual event it is. It’s mostly just laziness on the part of our media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 12:03 AM, Air_Delivery said: I think its more the guy was clearly a nutcase so there is no real narrative to paint other than it highlights the need for background checks. As always it’s worth noting that the overwhelming majority of gun violence is not committed by the mentally ill, and the overwhelming majority of mentally ill people are not violent. We need better mental health services but counting on them to catch people who would commit gun violence before they do so is like filtering your coffee grounds through a sieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Two in one day, we're so over this pandemic shit. At least 1 person killed and 5 wounded after a shooting at a Texas office park, police say WWW.CNN.COM One person was killed and at least five others were wounded -- four of them critically -- in a shooting at an industrial park in Bryan, Texas, on Thursday afternoon, police said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Oh hey, just another school shooting One dead following shooting at Austin-East High School, one person detained WWW.WVLT.TV Multiple gunshot victims including an officer at Austin-East High School. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Gun nuts care more about their hobby than they do about human life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 CNN said that was like the 4th shooting this year at that high school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Can we rename this thread to The Official Thread of Thoughts and Prayers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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