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7 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:
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The vast majority of Americans, including many gun owners, favor background checks for all gun purchases, 30-day waiting periods and gun registration.

Unrelated but 75% of americans are in favor of a 30 day waiting period for all gun sales, and 70% for requiring gun registration with the police. Let's do what's popular (even though the cops won't give a shit because they're filled with right wing terrorists)

 

 

30 days? But I'm mad now! 

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The Republicans will do thoughts and prayers and talk about mental health counseling.  They won't pay for it, that's socialism, they might link to the donation page for NAMI on twitter though.  The Democrats will talk a big game for 5 minutes, someone will introduce a bill that's all set to quietly die in a couple weeks and then the cycle ends until the next one.

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Colorado authorities released the identity of the alleged Boulder supermarket shooter on Tuesday morning. Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa, 21, is accused of opening fire and killing 10 people during the Monday massacre.

 

Boulder Police named the Arvada, Colorado, resident as the injured suspect seen in video following the deadly mass shooting Monday at a King Soopers supermarket. The man allegedly opened fire on customers and killed a Boulder police officer, 51-year-old Eric Talley, during the shooting. The deceased victims range in age from 20 years old to 65 years old. A law enforcement press release identified his full name as Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa. A Facebook page appearing to be that of the suspect features posts with quotes from the Islamic Prophet Muhammad.

 

Speaking with the Daily Beast Tuesday, the suspect's brother said his sibling had for years claimed imaginary people were following him wherever he went. Described as "quiet" by numerous family members, Alissa was also characterized as deeply paranoid.

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Colorado authorities released the identity of the alleged Boulder supermarket shooter Tuesday morning. He is accused of opening fire and killing 10 people during the Monday massacre.

 

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33 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:
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Colorado authorities released the identity of the alleged Boulder supermarket shooter Tuesday morning. He is accused of opening fire and killing 10 people during the Monday massacre.

 

He was born the month Columbine happened

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I really do fear that America could be a lost cause on this issue. 

 

You wouldn't even need to ban all guns nationwide, just modernize laws and licenses, and look at what other countries like Canada, New Zealand, Switzerland, etc. do. Those counties have guns, but nowhere near the same level of gun violence as the States. 

 

I'm not even anti-gun (hell people way up north in polar bear territory don't leave the house without a rifle because they might need it), but if you told me you could magically snap your fingers and all guns would disappear, and therefore no innocent person would ever be killed by a gun again, especially a young school child, fuck it, snap away. Gun nuts can find a new hobby. 

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2 hours ago, mclumber1 said:
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Colorado authorities released the identity of the alleged Boulder supermarket shooter Tuesday morning. He is accused of opening fire and killing 10 people during the Monday massacre.

 

 

Sounds like he would have gotten a gun even with all the things everybody agrees on.

 

Abolish the 2A.

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9 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

True, but either of those could theoretically result in a lower casualty total than any semi-automatic rifle.

 

I guess it depends on the situation.  The Virginia Tech shooter murdered 19 with pistols.  The Washington Navy Yard shooter murdered 12 with a pump shotgun.  No matter what, it's a horrible situation.  

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4 minutes ago, ort said:

Snce no solution will 100% solve this problem we should just continue to do absolutely nothing.

 

I'm not saying that.  There are a lot of things we can do that would not only lower gun homicides, but be good for American society as a whole:

  • Universal healthcare, including mental health.
  • End the war on drugs, legalize prostitution, and other vices that create violent black markets.
  • Economically invest in neighborhoods where crime is rampant.
  • Enact a "DIY" background check system.

 

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46 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

 

I'm not saying that.  There are a lot of things we can do that would not only lower gun homicides, but be good for American society as a whole:

  • Universal healthcare, including mental health.
  • End the war on drugs, legalize prostitution, and other vices that create violent black markets.
  • Economically invest in neighborhoods where crime is rampant.
  • Enact a "DIY" background check system.

 

 

If we're talking about things to stop gun violence specifically, this is putting a one of those little circular band-aids on a necrotic wound. I agree that all of these should be done, this will have little impact on gun violence.

 

Guns need to be taken out of the hands of civilians.

 

  • Ban all gun sales
  • Implement compelling buyback programs
  • Anyone who commits any misdemeanor whatsoever, and certainly any greater crime, should have all guns confiscated forever, the right to purchase any gun revoked forever, the use of any gun banned forever

 

Mental health programs as a means to combat gun violence are red herrings

The war on drugs as a means to combat gun violence is a red herring

Investing in poor neighborhoods as a means to combat gun violence is a red herring

A DIY background check system is not remotely adequate

 

After the events in January, the notion that a well-armed populace is going to be some kind of speed bump on the road towards an authoritarian government takeover has been exposed as fantasy. We cannot be trusted with the right. It needs to be abolished.

 

I didn't always think this way, I'm sure there's still ink on IGN somewhere where I'm stanning for the second amendment, and probably here too, before the great D1Pderp. I still think shooting guns as target practice is fun. I took my brother and his buddies to a firing range for his bachelor party, I've got photos of me and a buddy of mine who served in the Navy during our drives up to a firing range not far over the New Hampshire border. And to wit, when the violence was more contained to "gangland" or I was more willing to engage in mental gymnastics about how suicides "didn't count" I could contort myself into a position where I felt that enough people could be trusted as to make retaining the 2A worth the spilled blood.

 

I just can't do it anymore. And I've lost the ability to see how anyone could rationally think it's worth keeping. Emotionally? Sure, I get it. But practically? No... no.

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50 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said:

The gun problem in America is caused by guns. The only way to solve it is to get rid of guns. We know this. Anything else is just nibbling around the edges.


In a world where nothing is ever “that simple”, it really is that simple.

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29 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said:

 

In my head I pronounce it dip derp :p

 

14 minutes ago, Brick said:

 

It really doesn't. D1Pderp is fun to say.

 

Yes, if you're reading it as "dip derp", but I was reading it as "Dee One Pee/Day One Patch Derp" so I wanted it to just be "Day One Derp". :p

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