Bloodporne Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Man I came back in here to talk about Seinfeld, what the fuck happened!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 25 minutes ago, Joe said: would enter Biden’s HHS without traditional health or management experience Not a good sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Biden still won. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, PaladinSolo said: Biden still won. This is the loss that never ends, it goes on and on my friends... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Damn, I was looking forward to Ted Cruz's eloquence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 The mouth breathers really thought the Supreme Court was gonna go full fascist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 59 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Not a good sign That was your two second take from reading the headline? Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Joe said: That was your two second take from reading the headline? Cool. I would tend to agree, but at the same thing that’s not exactly a selling point in the middle of a pandemic. Hell, even Azar had more qualifications! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, Joe said: That was your two second take from reading the headline? Cool. ...yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 57 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Biden still won. 57 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 The Country is Two-Faced right now.. both sides see each other as the villain.. Is this where u need a false flag operation to unite our countries capacity to hate outsiders comes in? Cause the GOP sure as shit is not going back to normal and the monsters are both too big for new idealists to fix it.. Out of all this I wish nothing but the worst for Trump, McConnell, Giuliani and the rest if those toxic fucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Chris- said: I would tend to agree, but at the same thing that’s not exactly a selling point in the middle of a pandemic. Hell, even Azar had more qualifications! I think he will be fine. I don't know that public health experience is necessarily a requirement for a HHS secretary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, PaladinSolo said: Biden still won. 1 hour ago, mclumber1 said: Trump's reaction to this should be one for the ages..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 From the article: Quote “It would be hard to find anyone who has worked so hard to undo Trump’s agenda on health,” said Larry Levitt, the executive vice president for health policy at the Kaiser Family Foundation. “Now he’ll have an opportunity to do it proactively.” Quote “The California Justice Department probably is bigger than many state governments in terms of its reach and its scope,” said Obama HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, who praised Becerra as a “smart, strategic” pick who will be able to recruit top talent around him. Quote Becerra’s expertise will serve the Biden administration beyond the pandemic, his backers say, particularly when it comes to expanding the Affordable Care Act and reversing the Trump administration’s regulations and executive orders that sought to undermine Obamacare’s insurance marketplaces and put a conservative spin on Medicaid and other safety-net programs. Becerra has also spent considerable time focused on immigration issues, including the treatment of unaccompanied immigrant minors, which falls under HHS's jurisdiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Like he's been CA AG for less than 3 years and his health experience being touted is him helping pass the ACA almost a decade ago? Where he wasn't even on a relevant committee? You can (and should!) Have a diverse cabinet and have a significant amount of relevant experience for someone in one of the most important posts to average americans in normal times let alone a pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Like he's been CA AG for less than 3 years and his health experience being touted is him helping pass the ACA almost a decade ago? He's been defending the ACA in court against Trump administration lawsuits since 2018 since Trump's DOJ refused to defend the ACA in court. He's also gone after hospital consolidation as CA AG. Not saying these are necessarily good reasons to pick him for HHS but his experience in these areas is way more recent than a decade ago. The Health 202: Xavier Becerra has been defending the ACA in court. Now he could manage it. - The Washington Post WWW.WASHINGTONPOST.COM Joe Biden announced this morning he is nominating the California AG as health secretary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jason said: He's been defending the ACA in court against Trump administration lawsuits since 2018 since Trump's DOJ refused to defend the ACA in court. He's also gone after hospital consolidation as CA AG. Not saying these are necessarily good reasons to pick him for HHS but his experience in these areas is way more recent than a decade ago. The Health 202: Xavier Becerra has been defending the ACA in court. Now he could manage it. - The Washington Post WWW.WASHINGTONPOST.COM Joe Biden announced this morning he is nominating the California AG as health secretary. Quote "I would have liked to see the HHS secretary have public health experience,” Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), a leading House progressive, said in an interview. “I know it’s typical to have more of a manager, but I think the current situation warrants it.” Biden allies mobilized quickly on Monday to head off those concerns, touting Becerra’s stewardship of California’s Justice Department — a job that consisted primarily of coordinating a slew of multistate lawsuits — and his deep involvement in the 2010 passage of Obamacare as a member of House leadership. These lawsuits are within his time as AG, as I said. And he's been managing it for less than 3 years. I don't think he's an awful pick but this is probably the most important senate appointed position in the federal government for the next year or so so I'm not exactly thrilled it's going to be run by a lawyer with little background in public health (which is not health insurance policy) instead of someone with a public health or scientific or related background. Hell supply chain management would be helpful even Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 COVID made polls too Democratic. Polling error in 2020, while within the… | by Brian Stryker | Dec, 2020 | Medium BRIANSTRYKER.MEDIUM.COM Polling error in 2020, while within the historical range of polling error, has caused a lot of heartburn among Democratic strategists… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: COVID made polls too Democratic. Polling error in 2020, while within the… | by Brian Stryker | Dec, 2020 | Medium BRIANSTRYKER.MEDIUM.COM Polling error in 2020, while within the historical range of polling error, has caused a lot of heartburn among Democratic strategists… I think it was posted ITT at some point that since polls are still largely (entirely?) landline-only, Democrats being more likely to be home to pick up the phone due to being more likely to be taking COVID precautions seriously probably had a significant effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jason said: I think it was posted ITT at some point that since polls are still largely (entirely?) landline-only, Democrats being more likely to be home to pick up the phone due to being more likely to be taking COVID precautions seriously probably had a significant effect. Nah, I don't think any pollster is landline only, dems being more likely to be home just means they're more free to pick up the phone, its also been stated that republicans have become simply less trusting of like literally everyone and wouldn't do polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Nah, I don't think any pollster is landline only, dems being more likely to be home just means they're more free to pick up the phone, its also been stated that republicans have become simply less trusting of like literally everyone and wouldn't do polls. Yeah the shy Trump voter is a myth, but it seems that Republicans not wanting to respond to polls definitely isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 The damage Republicans have caused to our country won't just go away with Trump out of the White House. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I've been saying this stuff for a while when people try to say Trump can't pardon his family/staff, or that it somehow means that accepting a pardon means you're guilty, or that accepting a pardon means you can be subpoena'd for the trial of the others or whatever. None of that is true. Trump absolutely can pardon anyone he wants (except for maybe himself) for any reason. A crime, hell even a person, doesn't even have to be specified. If people don't want to watch, he talks specifically about whether the president could pardon himself. There isn't anything in the constitution that explicitly says he can't. However, there are other parts that clearly state that the president is subject to punishment for crimes committed while in office. If the president were allowed to pardon himself, it would nullify those other clauses, therefore it can be argued that it is implicit that the president cannot pardon himself, even if the text of the law doesn't directly say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 44 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: I've been saying this stuff for a while when people try to say Trump can't pardon his family/staff, or that it somehow means that accepting a pardon means you're guilty, or that accepting a pardon means you can be subpoena'd for the trial of the others or whatever. None of that is true. Trump absolutely can pardon anyone he wants (except for maybe himself) for any reason. A crime, hell even a person, doesn't even have to be specified. If people don't want to watch, he talks specifically about whether the president could pardon himself. There isn't anything in the constitution that explicitly says he can't. However, there are other parts that clearly state that the president is subject to punishment for crimes committed while in office. If the president were allowed to pardon himself, it would nullify those other clauses, therefore it can be argued that it is implicit that the president cannot pardon himself, even if the text of the law doesn't directly say so. I always figured that Trump would self-pardon for the hell of it because at his age it would at least buy him a few years while it worked it's way through the courts. Now I am thinking of a tragically comical scenario where Trump self-pardons, it is challenged in court, ultimately it is ruled he can not self pardon, but by time that happens there is not enough time to indict and convict him before the 2024 election. He runs, wins, and has four more years of presidential immunity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, Jason said: His beard looks like shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Jason said: The answer is always cocaine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 @Keyser_Soze 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Mayo Pete? More like Chili Oil Pete! Biden eyeing Buttigieg for China ambassador WWW.AXIOS.COM Letting him deepen his foreign policy chops could boost Buttigieg's future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keyser_Soze Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Worth it to hear McConnell say pp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Boy, Mitch really snapped at that reporter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Georgia Republicans vow legislation to limit mail voting despite no evidence of fraud WWW.NBCNEWS.COM A day after Trump's loss in the state was reaffirmed, Republicans pledged to unwind the absentee voting system they themselves created in 2005. Quote The lawmakers also vowed to unwind a legal agreement that standardized Georgia’s signature match policies earlier this year and trained poll workers in best practices, changes that led to a lower rejection rate of mail ballots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Yep, hopefully everybody enjoyed Dems winning Georgia once, because they're gonna make sure that that never happens again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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