CitizenVectron Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Why TIME Chose Taylor Swift as the 2023 Person of the Year TIME.COM Swift achieved a kind of nuclear fusion: shooting art and commerce together to release an energy of historic force. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 In before @Commissar SFLUFAN rubs his temples 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 In terms of the most useless person I keep hearing about against my will, Swift is definitely that person. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 I don't have any significant objections as she unquestionably captured the global cultural zeitgeist in 2023. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Hell, her Eras tour even had a measurable impact on the US economy: ‘Swiftonomics’: How Taylor Swift is Boosting the Economy NEWS.NORTHEASTERN.EDU The Eras tour is smashing all sorts of records. But the tour could also generate up to $4.6 billion in consumer spending. The Federal Reserve says Taylor Swift's Eras Tour boosted the economy. One market research firm estimates she could add $5 billion WWW.CBSNEWS.COM A survey found that concertgoers spent an average of $1,300 per show on expenses like tickets, outfits, travel and food. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 And the haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate 1 2 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, TheLeon said: And the haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate True. I am a hater, but Swift as Time's POTY makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Taylor Swift and Hitler receiving the same award sounds about right something something a joke about her songs being a musical holocaust. 1 1 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 God her music is so mediocre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Reputator said: God her music is so mediocre. Yup, I have nothing against her or her fans being fans, but I just don't understand the appeal. The real measure will be if people still comment on her in 40 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 I'm gonna straight-up say that if given a choice between listening to a song by Taylor Swift and a song by The Beatles that Taylor wins by a landslide. Each and every time. 1 3 3 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I'm gonna straight-up say that if given a choice between listening to a song by Taylor Swift and a song by The Beatles that Taylor wins by a landslide. Each and every time. Paperback Writer though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 At least it's not the pedo guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 @Commissar SFLUFAN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 She absolutely deserved it. Her music is great, too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, Reputator said: God her music is so mediocre. 11 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Yup, I have nothing against her or her fans being fans, but I just don't understand the appeal. The real measure will be if people still comment on her in 40 years. I actually give her quite a bit of credit for not sounding like her songs were written in a board room. But they do sound like songs written by somebody who never had to wonder where the money for rent was coming from. Never loved somebody where it wasn’t reciprocated. Never thinks about big issues and how they affect the individual. I think lots, most even, of great art is born of struggle and honestly her music sounds like it was written by an affluent white girl who never struggled a day in her life. Maybe she has had those experiences I don’t know. But I don’t hear it in her songs that I’ve heard. But also, not everything needs to be great art. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Our future president 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Lol yea, Taylor has not had any life struggles that are even worth mentioning. She was born 45 minutes away from me, moved to Nashville, and immediately became a global superstar at 18. But, not all music needs to come from that area @GeneticBlueprintpointed out. I just think most of her music is really catchy and fun. Nothing to write home about obviously. She seems like a decent person, too. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69los Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 55 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I'm gonna straight-up say that if given a choice between listening to a song by Taylor Swift and a song by The Beatles that Taylor wins by a landslide. Each and every time. I don't listen to her but I'd be surprised to find a song of hers that I like more than Something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 I mean yeah that makes sense plus she annoys football bros so winning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 17 minutes ago, best3444 said: Lol yea, Taylor has not had any life struggles that are even worth mentioning. She was born 45 minutes away from me, moved to Nashville, and immediately became a global superstar at 18. But, not all music needs to come that area @GeneticBlueprint pointed out. I just think most of her music is really catchy and fun. Nothing to write home about obviously. Sge seems like a decent person, too. Wasn't her dad like a bank exec or something too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 It is seriously the only correct choice, no matter if you like her music or not. No single person dominated the news cycle as much. And she seems to be generally pretty positive and a good influence on young people. I only know one of her songs off the top of my head (the hate hate hate one) but not everything is for me and I like this pick. Edit: She also got a lot of young people to register to vote which is probably more good than most people did last year 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 33 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Wasn't her dad like a bank exec or something too? He was a very successful stock broker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 The vast majority of successful entertainers come from extremely privileged backgrounds. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, GeneticBlueprint said: I actually give her quite a bit of credit for not sounding like her songs were written in a board room. But they do sound like songs written by somebody who never had to wonder where the money for rent was coming from. Never loved somebody where it wasn’t reciprocated. Never thinks about big issues and how they affect the individual. I think lots, most even, of great art is born of struggle and honestly her music sounds like it was written by an affluent white girl who never struggled a day in her life. Maybe she has had those experiences I don’t know. But I don’t hear it in her songs that I’ve heard. But also, not everything needs to be great art. I like when she really leans into the fact that’s she’s not relatable, like when she wrote a song about the socialite who used to own her mansion in Rhode Island. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 I'm not into her music but I think she deserves credit at least from a business perspective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucoe Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 On 12/6/2023 at 6:56 AM, CitizenVectron said: Why TIME Chose Taylor Swift as the 2023 Person of the Year TIME.COM Swift achieved a kind of nuclear fusion: shooting art and commerce together to release an energy of historic force. That's the strangest looking picture of Donald Trump I've ever seen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I mean if you think about at all, it makes sense. If that shit storm leads to ticket master being torn apart she’ll be my nomination for person of the generation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 59 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: I mean if you think about at all, it makes sense. If that shit storm leads to ticket master being torn apart she’ll be my nomination for person of the generation. At the very least she is somewhat related to Biden's efforts to eliminate or disclose junk fees upfront since Ticketmaster and their ilk have been at the forefront of that garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 On 12/6/2023 at 11:37 AM, stepee said: It is seriously the only correct choice, no matter if you like her music or not. No single person dominated the news cycle as much. Based on this, you can’t support AW2 for GOTY. Ain’t nobody talked about that game like they did with BG3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Brian said: Based on this, you can’t support AW2 for GOTY. Ain’t nobody talked about that game like they did with BG3 I…don’t think that’s how goty works :P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I don't especially care for her music, but for the amount of fame she has, she seems unusually level headed and smart. So I have no problems with this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 the photoshoot for this was fucking terrible. i think she was a good pick but damn the people in charge of the photoshoot botched it pretty hard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I haven't done a lot of research, but I get the impression she should give more to charity, especially now that she is a billionaire. I got no problem with her overall and even like some of her songs, but I'm also not a huge fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I appreciate her music, and I love that it’s driving all the right wingers crazy that she got picked over Elon. Even Tomi Lahren called out conservatives for losing the culture war over shit like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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