crispy4000 Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 Inflation price hikes I have no problem with. Paltry $20 off discounts years after release, I do. It's going to sting seeing $50 as the new deep-discount price for a Nintendo game. 45 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I really am having a very difficult time seeing how the so-called "AAA"-tier is going to be sustainable. Imagine needing to sell 10 million copies to succeed while watching the console manufacturers push subscription models. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Xbob42 said: To me, a price hike should come with a clear advantage to me. After all, if I'm paying more money for the same stuff, I feel like I'm just getting boned. I can easily wrap my mind around a new 2023 game costing $10 more than a 2017 game once did. Because just look at the price of everything else. And how long the industry stuck to $60 beforehand. The bigger issue to me, personally, is how much further Nintendo is pricing themselves out of impulse buy territory when they discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 This game has to average an 98% in reviews for me to buy it. I honestly don't care if it was $70 but the Switch is ancient now and Zelda will run at 18fps so I'm not too excited for it. The Switch 2 probably won't even come out in 2024 because Nintendo are fuckin dicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 2 hours ago, best3444 said: This game has to average an 98% in reviews for me to buy it. I honestly don't care if it was $70 but the Switch is ancient now and Zelda will run at 18fps so I'm not too excited for it. That's a bit reactionary. Monolith's temporal upscaller developed for Xenoblade 3 is likely being used. (derived from work by Activision as a starting point) It's far and away the best we've seen on the system. In portable mode, its actually supersampling down its reconstructed output from ~900p to 720p. Digital Foundry: Quote The inclusion of this technique [in XB3] also raises some questions in regards to the sequel to Breath of the Wild. As far as we know, Monolith Soft has provided engineering assistance to Nintendo for this game. And perhaps this explains why the most recent trailer offered such clean image quality, exceeding our expectations. They might be using a similar technique and Xenoblade 3 is a hint of what it might deliver. Long story short, you shouldn't be worried about Tears of the Kingdom looking or running too bad. The art style already looked good for the resolution it targeted before, and reconstruction has only gotten better since, which should help the performance stability. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Atari cartridges could cost $100 in 1980 -- which is over $330 today. (Or over $400, if you go closer to launch due to the inflation rates in the late 70s). Neo Geo cartridges cost $300 in the early 90s, which is over $500 today. The price of historical games is irrelevant to today. If you think a game is worth the price that is being charged, buy it. If you don't, buy something different. There are lots of games coming out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 56 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: That's a bit reactionary. Monolith's temporal upscaller developed for Xenoblade 3 is likely being used. (derived from work by Activision as a starting point) It's far and away the best we've seen on the system. In portable mode, its actually supersampling down its reconstructed output from ~900p to 720p. Digital Foundry: Long story short, you shouldn't be worried about Tears of the Kingdom looking or running too bad. The art style already looked good for the resolution it targeted before, and reconstruction has only gotten better since, which should help the performance stability. I was exaggerating just a tad but I really do hope Zelda turns out great and can run smoothly at 30fps. Breath of the Wild is one of the better games I've played in a long time so I hope this succeeds it in every way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Meh. I'll probably wait for it to go on sale and get it for $63. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Derek said: Meh. I'll probably wait for it to go on sale and get it for $63. I would say wait 4 years and it'll be $50. But some late gen Wii U games never dropped once at retail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imthesoldier Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 I can't say I'm "thrilled" about the potential of Nintendo games costing 70 dollars, but it's also just what the market is doing. That said, unlike just about every other publisher, Nintendo doesn't do price drops willy-nilly, so good luck finding a copy for under 50 bucks in 3 years after launch unless there's a 3rd party discount somewhere for some retail store. I'll still wait and see what holds when the info drops though. It's possible it's 60 bucks for base game, and 70 bucks including a Season Pass, but I believe that was 20 bucks or something for BOTW. Needless to say, if the game is as vast, and packed as we're all hoping, it could turn out Xenoblade levels of gameplay time, and help "justify" the possible price point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Yep, it's being listed at $70. Bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Given how many hours I put in to the average game I purchase, and assuming most of you dorks do at least the same, I’m kinda surprised at complaints about game prices. The value per hour of enjoyment is pretty unrivaled for me, even on the rare occasion I buy at $60-$70. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Yeah, this is something I'll definitely get my money's worth on. I think I spent 85 hours or so beating BotW. I just don't like how Nintendo keeps their games priced high for eternity because some are definitely not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 To celebrate this announcement, Breath of the Wild is on sale. $40. Good on 'em for knowing the value of their product or whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 It's still $60 at Gamestop. Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - Nintendo Switch | Nintendo Switch | GameStop WWW.GAMESTOP.COM Buy Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - Nintendo Switch by Nintendo for Nintendo Switch at GameStop. Find release dates, customer reviews, previews, and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: It's still $60 at Gamestop. Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - Nintendo Switch | Nintendo Switch | GameStop WWW.GAMESTOP.COM Buy Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - Nintendo Switch by Nintendo for Nintendo Switch at GameStop. Find release dates, customer reviews, previews, and more. They wouldn't up the price would they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 41 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Given how many hours I put in to the average game I purchase, and assuming most of you dorks do at least the same, I’m kinda surprised at complaints about game prices. The value per hour of enjoyment is pretty unrivaled for me, even on the rare occasion I buy at $60-$70. I love Nintendo but I don't really value SP games enough to spend 70 bucks unless it's RE4/Elden Ring tier. I'll buy it still just hope performance is on par with BOTW1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: It's still $60 at Gamestop. Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - Nintendo Switch | Nintendo Switch | GameStop WWW.GAMESTOP.COM Buy Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - Nintendo Switch by Nintendo for Nintendo Switch at GameStop. Find release dates, customer reviews, previews, and... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 hours ago, sblfilms said: Given how many hours I put in to the average game I purchase, and assuming most of you dorks do at least the same, I’m kinda surprised at complaints about game prices. The value per hour of enjoyment is pretty unrivaled for me, even on the rare occasion I buy at $60-$70. Yup the value per hour is how I justify the price of things….specially since I buy so few games anymore. In general I will pay for all DLC associated with the game (good content) because I buy so few…. Inverse of that there are games I wanted in the past that go for less than $10 than im somehow unwilling to now buy… Gamer purchasing freedom I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 hours ago, sblfilms said: Given how many hours I put in to the average game I purchase, and assuming most of you dorks do at least the same, I’m kinda surprised at complaints about game prices. The value per hour of enjoyment is pretty unrivaled for me, even on the rare occasion I buy at $60-$70. Right but I already get that value per hour, and this makes it go down. So... no thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 It'll be interesting to see if the retailers honor preorders that got in on the $60 price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Crazy how I'm not getting this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Remember when Nintendo games were only $40/$50 1 generation back? lol Normally for other systems I didn't care because I've gotten into buying my games much after release when they're much cheaper. Yet since at best Nintendo games will be $20/$30 off it's kind of crap. 35 minutes ago, Jason said: It'll be interesting to see if the retailers honor preorders that got in on the $60 price. Depends, most will but a select few wont (I think gamestop wont). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I wonder if part of the objection some are feeling is also because there isn’t a new, more powerful Nintendo console coming out along with this price increase. im the kind of person that for a game I will often buy the Deluxe edition. I want the extra in game goodies and I expect the value of dollar/hour will still be acceptable. but for games where I’m not a day one adopter, I wait for sales. My value for money has the potential to be much higher and my level of disappointment much lower if I don’t end up enjoying and playing the game much. This is where I definitely understand the criticism for Nintendo’s anti-consumer pricing practices. The games never drop to that point. If I ended up not like Horizon Zero Dawn, fine, I spent $18 on it. But I’ve now spent 72+ hours in the game. and now that Nintendo has fully embraced the DLC model too, their games are even more expensive and stay expensive for late adopters looking to get the full game. Where with almost everyone else, the late comers advantage is a much cheaper game in 1-2 years. Like when I bought the $120 version of AC:Odyssey for like $30 a couple years ago. but I think it goes back to that old discussion we were having about Nintendo needing to do remasters of something. Nintendo doesn’t care what we think, because they don’t have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 I didn’t realize that Nintendo reinstated the game vouchers here in the US again. For those who don’t remover, you pay $100 for 2 game vouchers basically getting $10 off each game. Now it looks like Zelda ToK is eligible for this promotion so you can get it for $50 based on the Nintendo website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, Brian said: I didn’t realize that Nintendo reinstated the game vouchers here in the US again. For those who don’t remover, you pay $100 for 2 game vouchers basically getting $10 off each game. Now it looks like Zelda ToK is eligible for this promotion so you can get it for $50 based on the Nintendo website. Yeah that is right, so you just get the vouchers for $100 and then pick up Kirby and you end up with Zelda for $40. I was considering waiting a year to see if there is a Switch 2 upgrade but might just get it on launch now since it’s so cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 The downside of the vouchers, iirc, is that they expire if you don't use them by a certain time. I think it's a 1 year from purchase? Not sure and too lazy to double check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: The downside of the vouchers, iirc, is that they expire if you don't use them by a certain time. I think it's a 1 year from purchase? Not sure and too lazy to double check That’s is correct. 1 year expiration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 The vouchers almost completely change the calculus here. Eligible Game Voucher games WWW.NINTENDO.COM It's still $60 average for a game after you consider you're giving Nintendo $20 for the discount. But that's enough to negate the price hike if there's another new game you're interested in. This is enough to convince me to pre-order Pikmin 4 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imthesoldier Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 So looking at the main page for TOTK on Nintendo's site, the game file size is 18.2GB. So I guess Nintendo are going to use a 32GB Cartridge for this game? Maybe that's their justification for 70 dollars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, imthesoldier said: Maybe that's their justification for 70 dollars? The justification is there will be virtually no change in the number of units sold, but 15% more in the bank account I actually think Nintendo was late to the party on price increases. They could have been getting $70 a game on their major releases the entire time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, sblfilms said: The justification is there will be virtually no change in the number of units sold, but 15% more in the bank account I actually think Nintendo was late to the party on price increases. They could have been getting $70 a game on their major releases the entire time. Think about how much a night at the movies are. Sporting event. Concerts. For a few hours. Games bring hundreds of hours of entertainment on you schedule anytime you want. Seems like a bargain to me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imthesoldier Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Biggie said: Think about how much a night at the movies are. Sporting event. Concerts. For a few hours. Games bring hundreds of hours of entertainment on you schedule anytime you want. Seems like a bargain to me. One way to determine if it's worth it is Hours Per Dollar, or Dollars per Hour, depending on how you want to phrase it. EDIT: Hardware geeks use Cost Per Frame to justify if a GPU is worth it or not, so why not apply similar framework for gaming hours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share Posted February 9, 2023 28 minutes ago, sblfilms said: The justification is there will be virtually no change in the number of units sold, but 15% more in the bank account I actually think Nintendo was late to the party on price increases. They could have been getting $70 a game on their major releases the entire time. In fairness, some will be offset by is going towards 10% employee raises. They’re still making a ton of money regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Definitely one of those price hikes that I completely understand, even if I'm bummed to see it. I'll certainly get $70 worth from a Zelda game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 If weapons still break in the game they should pay ME $70 to play it. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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