AbsolutSurgen Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: I think he just provoked someone. You're allowed to attack him, and he can't defend himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I’m pretty sure Cori Bush is pulling a Brian Williams there, too 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, mclumber1 said: If someone else in court was armed and blew this dude away it would be infinitely more justified than everything Rittenhouse did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 Well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Well. The tweeter doesn’t understand what is going on in the video. Rittenhouse was not in violation of the possession charge because it only applies to short barrel rifles and shotguns EXPLAINER: Why did judge drop Rittenhouse gun charge? APNEWS.COM MADISON, Wis. (AP) — On the surface, it looked like prosecutors' easiest task at Kyle Rittenhouse's murder trial would be convicting him of a much less significant charge — being a minor in possession of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 7 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Well. I mean, c'mon? I can't believe how many people ITT are, "The law is wrong, so we should ignore the law", instead of "the law is wrong, we need to change the law". This whole case is based on political pressure. Its clear prosecution had no case at all, but the media made declining to charge him with murder impossible. Hell, theres a ridiculous msnbc video of an anchor, just yesterday, claiming "His mother dropped him off I another state, and he fired almost 60 shots!" This is after a whole trial showing otherwise. Its absurd. Binger and Fatlock had no case, but the media had already decided his guilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 The jury starts their deliberations today. Any guess how long they'll be deliberating? My guess is that they will reach a verdict by the end of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Not Guilty by lunch time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Acquitted and running for office before the end of the day. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 4 hours ago, BloodyHell said: I mean, c'mon? I can't believe how many people ITT are, "The law is wrong, so we should ignore the law", instead of "the law is wrong, we need to change the law". This whole case is based on political pressure. Its clear prosecution had no case at all, but the media made declining to charge him with murder impossible. Hell, theres a ridiculous msnbc video of an anchor, just yesterday, claiming "His mother dropped him off I another state, and he fired almost 60 shots!" This is after a whole trial showing otherwise. Its absurd. Binger and Fatlock had no case, but the media had already decided his guilt. Media narratives like to pick heroes and villains. It is much harder to create a compelling narrative when the truth is somewhere in between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 It is a jury trial, so I am never confident of the outcome until the verdict is read. But as I think over the way this all played out I am struck by a few things. It is quite clear that the media figured out making a champion of Jacob Blake was not going to work as he was a rapist, who at the time of the shooting had just gone to the home of his victim to harass her, and was in fact armed during the shooting. Rittenhouse then became the proxy for the outrage machine as he checked all the boxes that make him a good target or the ire of the left. But inconveniently, they also knew he was legally justified in what he did from nearly the first day. So they began giving misleading information like the oft repeated he crossed state lines to get there” without the context that the boy lived on the border and was less than 25 minutes from home at the location of the shooting. But the facts of the case are pretty straight forward 1st shooting: man who made repeated threats of violence and death against the defendant then chases, corners, and tries to take the defendants 2nd shooting: man uses blunt object to repeatedly hit the defendant in the head 3rd shooting: man has gun drawn on the defendant All of what lead to those moments is legally irrelevant, the only thing that matters is what happened at the moment Rittenhouse decided to pull the trigger and you would be hard pressed to come up with three more clear scenarios in which a person is legally justified in using deadly force to stop the other person. The issue of moral guilt is different, and that is indeed where one can reasonably discuss whether it was ever appropriate for this kid to show up with a loaded gun. People are dead because of that decision, not wholly, but as a major part. We need a better society with the right moral and ethical character around guns. That to me is the actual story of the killings of Kyle Rittenhouse, that we live in a nation in which a child can show up somewhere with a loaded gun and nothing can be done about it. It is almost surprising how rare such an event is in a nation of 330 million people and at least that many guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Thread title will be updated to say, "Terrorist Kyle Rittenhouse allowed out on bail, cannot be found guilty" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Thanks I hate it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I mean, I understand that this whole thing is dripping with complicated nuance... but this kid is so far removed from being a hero that it boggles my mind. Anyone who thinks he is a deeply disturbed individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Rittenhouse is gonna walk away a completely free man and he will be set for life by either going into politics, becoming a right wing media figure, or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Fox News keeps running headlines like "Kenosha on edge as tempers flare!" with photos and videos that show like 10 people outside the courthouse. Those subhuman fucks at Fox News would love nothing more than for there to be more blood in the streets. They love that shit, because they don't actually care about anything other than riling up their base of idiotic bloodthirsty monsters they've spent the last 30 years grooming into drooling gullible dipshits. They want more Kyle Rittenhouse's. Nothing would make their anger boners more rock hard than a fresh round of blood in the street, They crave it. It's what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Rittenhouse is gonna walk away a completely free man and he will be set for life by either going into politics, becoming a right wing media figure, or both. He will be set for life the minute the trial is over and he files about 19 million defamation suits against public figures who called him all sorts of things you likely can’t get away with when a person is acquitted of the crime. The settlements will be fast and furious and the kid will never have to work a day in his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Just now, sblfilms said: He will be set for life the minute the trial is over and he files about 19 million defamation suits against public figures who called him all sorts of things you likely can’t get away with when a person is acquitted of the crime. The settlements will be fast and furious and the kid will never have to work a day in his life. brb changing the thread title 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 i’m going to be so pissed when he gets more money from lawsuits for killing people than I do for the city running me over with a truck 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 minute ago, stepee said: i’m going to be so pissed when he gets more money from lawsuits for killing people than I do for the city running me over with a truck Should have stood your ground 2A style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Just now, Jason said: Should have stood your ground 2A style. lol right, amazing that this person was running me over with a truck and I still didn’t shoot him dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, stepee said: i’m going to be so pissed when he gets more money from lawsuits for killing people than I do for the city running me over with a truck How much do you think they are going to have to pay you? They really did a number on you 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, sblfilms said: He will be set for life the minute the trial is over and he files about 19 million defamation suits against public figures who called him all sorts of things you likely can’t get away with when a person is acquitted of the crime. The settlements will be fast and furious and the kid will never have to work a day in his life. So he's going to turn out like every conservative failson: running for office and holding it indefinitely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: So he's going to turn out like every conservative failson: running for office and holding it indefinitely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: brb changing the thread title Too late. In the settlement, dayonepatch.com will transfer ownership to Rittenhouse, along with $50 gift card to Target. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, sblfilms said: How much do you think they are going to have to pay you? They really did a number on you 😭 It should actually be a quite a bit as yeah I got fucked in a few permanent ways. Right now the claim is filed and my lawyer is in talks with the city and we will probably be able to settle without it being a lawsuit actually. But we will see! Still this fucker will end up with more for his little killy kills I bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, stepee said: It should actually be a quite a bit as yeah I got fucked in a few permanent ways. Right now the claim is filed and my lawyer is in talks with the city and we will probably be able to settle without it being a lawsuit actually. But we will see! Still this fucker will end up with more for his little killy kills I bet. I hope whatever it is helps you substantially, bud. What an awful situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 9 hours ago, ort said: I mean, I understand that this whole thing is dripping with complicated nuance... but this kid is so far removed from being a hero that it boggles my mind. Anyone who thinks he is a deeply disturbed individual. Once he gets acquitted expect more folks to follow his example since everything will be “justified” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, 5timechamp said: Once he gets acquitted expect more folks to follow his example since everything will be “justified” That's my main concern, even though I now agree that, by the law, he should be acquitted. You're just going to get a lot more wannabe holy warriors showing up to protests that think they'll be protected when they fire at people. And maybe they will, maybe they won't. And then more left protesters will start coming strapped themselves for protection, and then who the fuck knows what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, 5timechamp said: Once he gets acquitted expect more folks to follow his example since everything will be “justified” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: That's my main concern, even though I now agree that, by the law, he should be acquitted. You're just going to get a lot more wannabe holy warriors showing up to protests that think they'll be protected when they fire at people. And maybe they will, maybe they won't. And then more left protesters will start coming strapped themselves for protection, and then who the fuck knows what happens Multiple states already passed laws basically legalizing running over BLM protestors with your car if you feel "threatened." Pretty sure we're headed in this direction regardless of the verdict of this trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Is it really a surprise that there are a ton of fuckos who jerk off to the idea of gunning down "liberals" and are lionizing a literal kid who actually screwed up and did just that? And did it well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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