LazyPiranha Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I thing he’ll walk but I also think people overestimate the right’s ability to care long term. The same people that were making that high school kids who got his smirk all over CNN for that incident with the Native American probably couldn’t tell you his name at this point. The moment this kid is out of the news there will be a new outrage to get excited about and this chud will just fade away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 The leaps in logic to that suggest a Rittenhouse aquittal in this case somehow enables people to shoot others at peaceful protests is baffling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Have you ever been in the Fox News comments section? Any article on protests/riots are 50% people fantasizing about gunning down liberals and minorities. How serious are most of these people? Probably not very, but are there a couple dozen people out there who are nuts enough to do it? Probably... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 People write lots of things in comment sections. They're even worse than twitter. The evidence shown in this case demonstrate that what happened in this case is very different than someone showing up at a peaceful protest and opening fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 54 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: The leaps in logic to that suggest a Rittenhouse aquittal in this case somehow enables people to shoot others at peaceful protests is baffling. this is true, but only because in several states you can now hit protester with your car and have a valid legal defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Fact check: Drivers don’t have the right to “plow through” protesters | Reuters WWW.REUTERS.COM Shared widely on Facebook, posts make a misleading and potentially dangerous claim about the legality of driving into a crowd of protesters with a car. Most iterations of this claim feature a Google search screenshot bringing up a preview answer from question-and-answer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Fact check: Drivers don’t have the right to “plow through” protesters | Reuters WWW.REUTERS.COM Shared widely on Facebook, posts make a misleading and potentially dangerous claim about the legality of driving into a crowd of protesters with a car. Most iterations of this claim feature a Google search screenshot bringing up a preview answer from question-and-answer... State-level Republicans are making it easier to run over protesters WWW.VOX.COM GOP lawmakers are responding to Black Lives Matter protests with anti-protest bills. maybe use an article not a year old and reflects actual laws put in place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: State-level Republicans are making it easier to run over protesters WWW.VOX.COM GOP lawmakers are responding to Black Lives Matter protests with anti-protest bills. maybe use an article not a year old and reflects actual laws put in place www.vox.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, AbsolutSurgen said: www.vox.com Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signs 'anti-riot' bill that grants civil immunity to drivers who hit protesters and protects police budgets from being cut WWW.BUSINESSINSIDER.COM DeSantis pushed the bill, which he signed Monday, last year in the wake of nationwide Black Lives Matter protests. G.O.P. Bills Target Protesters (and Absolve Motorists Who Hit Them) - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM As the nation reacts to the guilty verdict a jury handed to Derek Chauvin in the killing of George Floyd, Republican-led states are introducing punitive new measures governing protests. DeSantis signs ‘anti-riot’ bill into law, sparking outcry from Democrats, civil rights groups WWW.ORLANDOSENTINEL.COM Gov. Ron DeSantis signed Florida’s controversial “anti-riot” bill into law on Monday, vastly increasing law enforcement’s powers to crack down on civil unrest. We Read DeSantis' "Anti-Riot" Bill So You Don't Have to — Here's What It Says WWW.MIAMINEWTIMES.COM The law enhances charges for people arrested at protests and prohibits the destruction of historic memorials. shut the fuck up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, AbsolutSurgen said: The leaps in logic to that suggest a Rittenhouse aquittal in this case somehow enables people to shoot others at peaceful protests is baffling. Exactly, if you want to rittenhouse someone then a peaceful protest makes no sense. What you would want to do is find a local spot where a bunch of proud boys hang out and then go up and call them all a bit fancy then wait for your moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signs 'anti-riot' bill that grants civil immunity to drivers who hit protesters and protects police budgets from being cut WWW.BUSINESSINSIDER.COM DeSantis pushed the bill, which he signed Monday, last year in the wake of nationwide Black Lives Matter protests. G.O.P. Bills Target Protesters (and Absolve Motorists Who Hit Them) - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM As the nation reacts to the guilty verdict a jury handed to Derek Chauvin in the killing of George Floyd, Republican-led states are introducing punitive new measures governing protests. DeSantis signs ‘anti-riot’ bill into law, sparking outcry from Democrats, civil rights groups WWW.ORLANDOSENTINEL.COM Gov. Ron DeSantis signed Florida’s controversial “anti-riot” bill into law on Monday, vastly increasing law enforcement’s powers to crack down on civil unrest. We Read DeSantis' "Anti-Riot" Bill So You Don't Have to — Here's What It Says WWW.MIAMINEWTIMES.COM The law enhances charges for people arrested at protests and prohibits the destruction of historic memorials. shut the fuck up lol the internet have anything I can verify on paper buddy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis signs 'anti-riot' bill that grants civil immunity to drivers who hit protesters and protects police budgets from being cut WWW.BUSINESSINSIDER.COM DeSantis pushed the bill, which he signed Monday, last year in the wake of nationwide Black Lives Matter protests. G.O.P. Bills Target Protesters (and Absolve Motorists Who Hit Them) - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM As the nation reacts to the guilty verdict a jury handed to Derek Chauvin in the killing of George Floyd, Republican-led states are introducing punitive new measures governing protests. DeSantis signs ‘anti-riot’ bill into law, sparking outcry from Democrats, civil rights groups WWW.ORLANDOSENTINEL.COM Gov. Ron DeSantis signed Florida’s controversial “anti-riot” bill into law on Monday, vastly increasing law enforcement’s powers to crack down on civil unrest. We Read DeSantis' "Anti-Riot" Bill So You Don't Have to — Here's What It Says WWW.MIAMINEWTIMES.COM The law enhances charges for people arrested at protests and prohibits the destruction of historic memorials. shut the fuck up Quote On Monday, the governor signed the bill into law — albeit with some changes. The state won't grant immunity to drivers who run over protesters blocking traffic, as originally proposed. Protest organizers will no longer face racketeering charges if a demonstration turns violent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Man, I bet NBA players would actually be great if you needed to send people out to pull off some rittenhouses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Quote Drivers can sorta-kinda still hit protesters with their cars A driver won't have immunity against prosecution for hitting a protester with their car, but they have some level of civil protection. If a driver feels threatened by a protester and runs them over, the law provides them with some defense mechanisms if they are sued. Quote The law, which goes into effect immediately, grants civil legal immunity to people who drive through protesters blocking a road, 34 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: this is true, but only because in several states you can now hit protester with your car and have a valid legal defense fact check: true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Civil Immunity <> Criminal Immunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Civil Immunity <> Criminal Immunity http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2021-22 ENR/hB/HB1674 ENR.PDF The Oklahoma law covers both criminal and civil immunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Has there been a rash of motorists running over protestors since the civil immunity laws were passed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, Joe said: http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2021-22 ENR/hB/HB1674 ENR.PDF The Oklahoma law covers both criminal and civil immunity. It also doesn’t give license to plow protestors down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I don’t see why we need new laws anyway, it seems the lawful murder scene is doing just fine as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Joe said: http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2021-22 ENR/hB/HB1674 ENR.PDF The Oklahoma law covers both criminal and civil immunity. Quote A motor vehicle operator who unintentionally causes injury or death to an individual shall not be criminally or civilly liable for the injury or death, if: 1. The injury or death of the individual occurred while the motor vehicle operator was fleeing from a riot, as defined in Section 1311 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes, under a reasonable belief that fleeing was necessary to protect the motor vehicle operator from serious injury or death; and 2. The motor vehicle operator exercised due care at the time of the death or injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Dude it’s America. You honestly believe “fleeing from a riot” will be interpreted properly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, Joe said: Dude it’s America. You honestly believe “fleeing from a riot” will be interpreted properly? I honestly believe that the law does not give people license to crash into peaceful protestors, nor would a reasonable person interpret it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, AbsolutSurgen said: I honestly believe that the law does not give people license to crash into peaceful protestors, nor would a reasonable person interpret it that way. Why Republicans Are Passing Laws Protecting Drivers Who Hit Protesters SLATE.COM The GOP campaign to take back the streets, even if by force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, AbsolutSurgen said: I honestly believe that the law does not give people license to crash into peaceful protestors, nor would a reasonable person interpret it that way. Canadian/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Joe said: Canadian/10 Yep. "I 'feared for my life' and 'tried to get away'" is the issue, not what you saw in Charlottesville where Heather Heyer was murdered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, AbsolutSurgen said: People write lots of things in comment sections. They're even worse than twitter. The evidence shown in this case demonstrate that what happened in this case is very different than someone showing up at a peaceful protest and opening fire. To be fair, these are likely the same people that claim they would go full John McClain if a mass shooting started in their vicinity. Pretty sure that wouldn't be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Yep. "I 'feared for my life' and tried to get away" is the issue, not what you saw in Charlottesville where Heather Heyer was murdered. Weird then that the board continues to describe these laws as though it legalizes murders like Heyer’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Weird then that the board continues to describe these laws as though it legalizes murders like Heyer’s. funny that huh (and the single quotes are doing some serious work in my post) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 We've had Vox, now Slate. Can a Vice article be far behind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: We've had Vox, now Slate. Can a Vice article be far behind? where can somebody post a link from that will be ok with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 if you actually read the vox article you'd see they quote an article in Vice (after the Times and WaPo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: if you actually read the vox article you'd see they quote an article in Vice (after the Times and WaPo) 4 minutes ago, johnny said: where can somebody post a link from that will be ok with you You can post whatever you want. Do they have any more credibility than Tucker Carlson or the Daily Wire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Attacking sources instead of the content in the source is laaaaaaame. I mean, I suppose you can do both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Do they have any more credibility than Tucker Carlson or the Daily Wire? troll account confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: troll account confirmed Well the other person really on the defense here for this douche is BloodyHell, so maybe he is apoc too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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