crispy4000 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, TomCat said: Of course you do you're smarter the ceos You're really dense if you think Microsoft isn't going loss-leader. It's the same playbook all big tech uses. Phil just says not to worry about the math as consumers, because his job to make it sustainable in the long run. I'm not disagreeing with him here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomCat Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Ms better keep all these new ip to xbox pc eco system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, ARZ said: Agree I only see possible exception being Elder Scrolls It'd be pretty funny if PS5 only got Skyrim, just because that game has to be ported everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TomCat Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Phil being to nice I would refund sonys money and say deathloop is now pc xbox xclusive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, TomCat said: Phil being to nice I would refund sonys money and say deathloop is now pc xbox xclusive I can't wait for the Switch port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPDunks4 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, TomCat said: Ms better keep all these new ip to xbox pc eco system I've seen speculation that Fallout 76 and Elder Scrolls Online will continue to have PS5 updates and support, but the remainder of the IP's and games will most likely become Xbox/PC Exclusive. Personally, for a business case for Microsoft, it makes sense to keep the games exclusive, but I hope if they do, they do some on a timed bases. Release on Xbox/PC and Game Pass, then 6 months to a year later release on Playstation/Switch, whatever makes sense. The more people that get to play these games the better, and I think the value proposition of Game Pass as well as the 6 months or year timing, would drive enough people to make the investment worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARZ Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, TomCat said: Phil being to nice I would refund sonys money and say deathloop is now pc xbox xclusive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARZ Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, JPDunks4 said: I've seen speculation that Fallout 76 and Elder Scrolls Online will continue to have PS5 updates and support, but the remainder of the IP's and games will most likely become Xbox/PC Exclusive. Personally, for a business case for Microsoft, it makes sense to keep the games exclusive, but I hope if they do, they do some on a timed bases. Release on Xbox/PC and Game Pass, then 6 months to a year later release on Playstation/Switch, whatever makes sense. The more people that get to play these games the better, and I think the value proposition of Game Pass as well as the 6 months or year timing, would drive enough people to make the investment worthwhile. I'd love to see MS offer free next-gen upgrades for all the titles on PS5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPDunks4 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, TomCat said: Phil being to nice I would refund sonys money and say deathloop is now pc xbox xclusive So does Phil have access to the PS5 dev kits now? Maybe now someone will actually tell us what tech is inside the damn machine? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, JPDunks4 said: I've seen speculation that Fallout 76 and Elder Scrolls Online will continue to have PS5 updates and support, but the remainder of the IP's and games will most likely become Xbox/PC Exclusive. Personally, for a business case for Microsoft, it makes sense to keep the games exclusive, but I hope if they do, they do some on a timed bases. Release on Xbox/PC and Game Pass, then 6 months to a year later release on Playstation/Switch, whatever makes sense. The more people that get to play these games the better, and I think the value proposition of Game Pass as well as the 6 months or year timing, would drive enough people to make the investment worthwhile. Ongoing PlayStation support for ESO has already been announced: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stepee Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 nice, maybe carmack can work on some rad ass vr doom shit now. and 7.5b ain’t shit barely buy you a house in the city these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShreddieMercury Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Damn, this is insane. I thought that the long game Xbox has been playing was already starting to pay off handsomely, but this essentially makes Sony's next-gen strategy look like Blockbuster Video in comparison. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Wow, glad I have GP for another 2 years. I should try to get back on MS rewards to extend it some more. As for sayswho and what Sony will do, I think they will counter with smaller acquisitions like Housemarque and Bluepoint. Sony doesn't need to buy some big publisher like MS does, whether or not they can afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 58 minutes ago, ARZ said: Agree I only see possible exception being Elder Scrolls Why would you expect Elder Scrolls to be the exception? If there was one franchise here that would allow MS to capitalize on being exclusive, I think Elder Scrolls would be it. Of course, it's the game that would sell the best on other platforms, but sales potential on other platforms hasn't exactly held back exclusivity before. I would expect that the only games to go to the PS5 will be the ones that they're contractually obligated to port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARZ Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, TwinIon said: Why would you expect Elder Scrolls to be the exception? If there was one franchise here that would allow MS to capitalize on being exclusive, I think Elder Scrolls would be it. Of course, it's the game that would sell the best on other platforms, but sales potential on other platforms hasn't exactly held back exclusivity before. I would expect that the only games to go to the PS5 will be the ones that they're contractually obligated to port. The same reason why MS has kept Minecraft multiplatform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 He's ON FIRE today! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 It’s such a good account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I feel positive about this, maybe for the wrong reasons. It seems to me that: Prey 2 is now more likely, the Dishonored series could get taken off of ice, and Elder Scrolls games may have shorter development cycles with a better engine. Microsoft has been funding some good things lately. They added games to Steam, AOE2 Definitive Edition+ AOE3 and 4 in dev, Obsidian and Flight Sim. Things could be worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 "Free" Bethesda Games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPDunks4 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Take Twos CEO said he believed Microsoft would do quite well this generation. Wonder if he knew about this already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, ARZ said: The same reason why MS has kept Minecraft multiplatform Minecraft was already out on every platform possible. The value of the thing was in being everywhere when MS bought it. As a multiplayer game it also enjoys a network effect. A new Elder Scrolls game is an entirely different proposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Phil working on getting XCloud on iOS. My kishi is ready. Make it happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 21 minutes ago, TwinIon said: Minecraft was already out on every platform possible. The value of the thing was in being everywhere when MS bought it. As a multiplayer game it also enjoys a network effect. A new Elder Scrolls game is an entirely different proposition. Minecraft is also just a cultural phenomenon as well. I wouldn't hold my breath on Fallout 5/TES6 hitting the PS5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Wow. Owning only a PS4 this gen I might be biased but I'll definitely miss the convenience of having 90% of the games that interest me all in one place. Are Capcom, CDPR, or Take Two next? Depending on the studios they keep acquiring and to what extent games will be platform exclusive things could get messy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxEvil AshxX Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 hour ago, JPDunks4 said: Considering their bugs are some of the best moments in gaming history, I'll be disappointed if the new engine isn't a broken mess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 hours ago, The def star said: How is this much different than when Sony bought Insomniac and Naughty Dog? With MS at least they will keep putting their games out on PC and even Switch sometimes. "Ooh ooh I know I know! Becuz Sony!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Soooo, Skyrim EXTRA special edition inbound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I am going to miss Bethesda’s terrible E3 press conferences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I’ll take any excuse to repost this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPDunks4 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Soooo, Skyrim X-TRA special edition inbound! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, crispy4000 said: About that... [Edit: Better chart] There will be a push eventually. What that looks like, who knows. This doesn't tell the whole story... Netflix started offering streaming in addition add to the disc delivery service back in 2007. Also these price hikes are for NEW customers as the chart shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarkstark Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: "Ooh ooh I know I know! Becuz Sony!" It's different because they were both 2nd party studios for Sony. Sony was already bankrolling all of their projects before they became an official entity. They also didnt publish their own games so yeah its a pretty massive difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Need this in this thread 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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