Rev Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Does this mean Elder Scrolls will be an XBox exclusive or is it likely it'll be on PC too since Microsoft also owns Windows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARZ Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: It was a joke about financing the new Xbox for $25 a month. Was gonna say, lol I could swear they even still have the $10 option, though I doubt for much longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, Rev said: Does this mean Elder Scrolls will be an XBox exclusive or is it likely it'll be on PC too since Microsoft also owns Windows? Gamepass game are on PC, Microsoft games are on PC (Steam) etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The def star Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Bacon said: For the new consoles: Xbox Series S and Xbox Series X Launch November 10, Starting at $24.99 a Month with Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and EA Play - Xbox Wire NEWS.XBOX.COM Now more than ever, gaming plays an important role in our lives. As one of the greatest forms of creative expression, gaming sparks in our imagination and connects us to new worlds, stories, and our friends. On November 10, a new generation of console gaming begins. That’s when our vision becomes reality with the most […] Didn't really read it but I don't know what the PC price will be. This is only if you want to buy the new consoles with All Access. Game Pass by itself is still $15 a month for both consoles and PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, The def star said: This is only if you want to buy the new consoles with All Access. Game Pass by itself is still $15 a month for both consoles and PC. Oh. Maybe I should have read it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, The def star said: This is only if you want to buy the new consoles with All Access. Game Pass by itself is still $15 a month for both consoles and PC. Which may be a good deal if Game Pass increases in price but I doubt it will happen in the short term. Subscriber growth is way more important for Microsoft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0101 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I don’t see Gamepass prices increasing drastically. They are going the Netflix way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPDunks4 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, rc0101 said: I don’t see Gamepass prices increasing drastically. They are going the Netflix way. Yup, the goal is scaling subscribers up, rather than milking current subscribers a few more $ a month. You want people to sub at a price they will forget about and just stay subbed. Once you hit a certain price point, that number will drop off big time. The reason they were so big on xCloud is they want people with no hardware at all, no PC, no Xbox Console, to be able to sub as well. It's too early to know what will happen but hey are pushing it heavily in Asian countries that are big into mobile gaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I would be genuinely surprised to see Gamepass over the $20/month price point before the mid cycle refresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPDunks4 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Not to mention, a week ago they announced EA Play coming to Game Pass, which also gives you 10% off any EA Purchase. Add to that all of Bethesda now, and my lord what a value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, rc0101 said: I don’t see Gamepass prices increasing drastically. They are going the Netflix way. About that... [Edit: Better chart] There will be a push eventually. What that looks like, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0101 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 $8 to $16 in 6 years isn’t drastic to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, crispy4000 said: About that... Netflix did’t have another revenue steam to rely on so they needed to up prices along the way. Microsoft could take the hit longer to get the subs due to its financial standing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, rc0101 said: $8 to $16 in 6 years isn’t drastic to me Sure beats inflation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number305 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I'm seeing that there is still possibly something more coming from MS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Doesn't netflix hemorrhage money though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number305 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, Zaku3 said: Doesn't netflix hemorrhage money though? You gotta lose tons of money to make money. Or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, Zaku3 said: Doesn't netflix hemorrhage money though? It does though it’s getting better. They went from a licensing model to a production model. It was expected with such a transition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 This aged well: linear-gradient(310.77deg, #29AA9F 0%, #098EA6 100%) Industry Consolidation has officially started, when will we see the acquisition of Publishers? | ResetEra WWW.RESETERA.COM With Sony buying Insomniac Games and Microsoft buying Double Fine and likely other acquisitions coming soon. The era of Industry Consolidation is now in full swing. So the question, when will we... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: Netflix did’t have another revenue steam to rely on so they needed to up prices along the way. Microsoft could take the hit longer to get the subs due to its financial standing. That's true, but the eventual goal here would be to make it sustainable. Something's gotta give if they want to keep all these employees on payroll long term. Even more true now. In the short term, I agree. It's about building that subscriber base, getting them hooked on the distribution medium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, rc0101 said: $8 to $16 in 6 years isn’t drastic to me It’s also really $8-$13 over nearly a decade when comparing apples to apples (the regular tier of service in the middle). They added other tiers with different service levels over time. I think it’s also worth noting that there are other ways that companies generate money off of games besides the original purchase price. Those things aren’t going away. I mean, some of the biggest franchises going right now charge $0 for the base game. The world is changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I'm spending 15 bucks a month just to play FFXIV and soon WoW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, sblfilms said: It’s also really $8-$13 over nearly a decade when comparing apples to apples (the regular tier of service in the middle). They added other tiers with different service levels over time. I think it’s also worth noting that there are other ways that companies generate money off of games besides the original purchase price. Those things aren’t going away. I mean, some of the biggest franchises going right now charge $0 for the base game. The world is changing. This is also true. We aren't going to see MTX or season passes go away. Also, what about introducing different tiers to the subscription? It would only make sense to take a look at Netflix's business model over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomCat Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: That's true, but the eventual goal here would be to make it sustainable. Something's gotta give if they want to keep all these employees on payroll long term. Even more true now. In the short term, I agree. It's about building that subscriber base, getting them hooked on the distribution medium. Stock worth over 400 bucks a share Netflix lol at crispy4000 response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, crispy4000 said: This is also true. We aren't going to see MTX or season passes go away. Also, what about introducing different tiers to the subscription? If subscriptions are supposed to be idolizing Netflix, it would only make sense to take a look at their business model over time. MS already has tiered Gamepass, regular and ultimate. But I think the magic of Gamepass for developers and publishers is that it incentivizes users to try out their titles that they otherwise would not have. With the micro transaction model invading the industry, this gives those companies many more bites at the Apple than if they were forced to compete as a $30-$70 standalone title. Additionally, there is likely value to these companies in putting titles on Gamepass to gin up excitement for further entries in the series. Onviously the whole subscription model could crash and burn, but I see how it could work and stay relatively low price wise longer than something like Netflix which relies exclusively on the subscription to cover costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysDyingX Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 IF MLB The Show is coming to Xbox I don't see any reason a new Bethesda game wouldn't come to PSN. Maybe not at launch, but a few weeks later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TomCat Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, BasemntDweller2 said: IF MLB The Show is coming to Xbox I don't see any reason a new Bethesda game wouldn't come to PSN. Maybe not at launch, but a few weeks later. MLB forced sony to release on other systems or lose license 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPDunks4 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, BasemntDweller2 said: IF MLB The Show is coming to Xbox I don't see any reason a new Bethesda game wouldn't come to PSN. Maybe not at launch, but a few weeks later. Pretty sure Major League Baseball essentially pushed this for the license. Microsoft already releases Minecraft on everything, as well as select other titles on Switch and what not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, TomCat said: Stock worth over 400 bucks a share Netflix lol at crispy4000 response Stock price doesn't dictate profit or loss. I stand by what I said. All subscriptions have the eventual aim of sustainably generating profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, JPDunks4 said: Aww he dressed up to go on tv. Edit: After closer inspection he did not. I thought the jacket was a dress shirt and the black part was a tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomCat Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: Stock price doesn't dictate profit or loss. I stand by what I said. All subscriptions have the eventual aim of sustainably generating profit. Of course you do you're smarter the ceos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, BasemntDweller2 said: IF MLB The Show is coming to Xbox I don't see any reason a new Bethesda game wouldn't come to PSN. Maybe not at launch, but a few weeks later. Most Bethesda games have no license holders to satisfy, unlike MLB. After the previous contracts expire, I think most of their games will not come to PS5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPDunks4 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Sony - Pay $70 for Destruction All Stars Microsoft - We'll pay 7.5 billion so you can play all future Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Doom, Wolfenstein, Dishonored for $10 a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARZ Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, crispy4000 said: Most Bethesda games have no license holders to satisfy, unlike MLB. After the previous contracts expire, I think most of their games will not come to PS5. Agree I only see possible exception being Elder Scrolls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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