Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 "No knock warrants" should be prohibited in ALL circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: How long until the national registry of police bad actors starts getting filled up with good cops who snitched on bad cops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jason said: How long until the national registry of police bad actors starts getting filled up with good cops who snitched on bad cops? If it's based on improper use of force complaints then they probably have it coming. Honestly I don't get how improper use of force doesn't result in summary termination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jason said: How long until the national registry of police bad actors starts getting filled up with good cops who snitched on bad cops? impossible since there are no good cops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 This is the clip that John Oliver ended his show with and teared up talking about it. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, finaljedi said: Honestly I don't get how improper use of force doesn't result in summary termination. The cruelty is the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Nashville is instituting body cameras for the police department. They have long resisted this with excuses being that it's too much data and it's too expensive. https://www.nashville.gov/News-Media/News-Article/ID/9869/BodyWorn-Cameras-Coming-to-Metro-Nashville.aspx AND during a budget crunch, at that. This DEFINITELY isn't due to any of the recent protests or an attempt at tossing crumbs to people calling for reform. No-siree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 A kindler, gentler police state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 I think The Simpson’s warned us about lack of training years ago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: A kindler, gentler police state @Spork3245 seems to be a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 What if, and hear me out here, we didn't arrest and imprison so many people, but also restarted police departments to not use force as quickly or easily, and without impunity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 The policing system AND judicial oversight is rotten to the core in this country. There really is no reform possible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: @Spork3245 seems to be a fan. Weird comment to make. I haven’t followed it much beyond the corruption within Camden PD dropping exponentially which is all I mentioned. I spoke nothing of use of force, however, if the “disbanding method” was used for use of force, it would likely work as well as it had in regards to Camden’s use of it for anti-corruption. Jon Oliver also quoted it as “something that seems to work”. This is like claiming “I inflated my tires but my car still wouldn’t start” - the primary goal in Camden PD’s disbanding was for anti-corruption, not use of force. Am I agreeing with them not focusing on both? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Amazatron said: This is the clip that John Oliver ended his show with and teared up talking about it. That's fucking right!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Just an addition, this is the whole segment. Amazing stuff. I didn't even know about the Tulsa Massacre until Watchmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, finaljedi said: If it's based on improper use of force complaints then they probably have it coming. Honestly I don't get how improper use of force doesn't result in summary termination. No, I meant bad cops getting retribution by putting good cops on the list, the way they currently go harass them in person for filing complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 its almost as if its getting harder to defend all the pigs just not giving a fuck about anything and head are slowly starting to roll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 You know what's pissing me off? I've seen several variations of the following graphic, all of which contain falsified data: I've seen one cropped and shared so that it doesn't shown the year or the source. And I've seen another with the year changed to 2018 and the source as the Homeland Crime something bullshit organization with the numbers slightly changed. People are just flat out making shit up now, and idiots are falling for it. Fact-check: https://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/trump-retweets-bogus-crime-graphic/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 36 minutes ago, cusideabelincoln said: You know what's pissing me off? I've seen several variations of the following graphic, all of which contain falsified data: I've seen one cropped and shared so that it doesn't shown the year or the source. And I've seen another with the year changed to 2018 and the source as the Homeland Crime something bullshit organization with the numbers slightly changed. People are just flat out making shit up now, and idiots are falling for it. Fact-check: https://www.factcheck.org/2015/11/trump-retweets-bogus-crime-graphic/ Has anyone who says, "what about black on black crime?" ever been right about anything? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Good news, racism has been solved and police reform achieved! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 lol I bet if you asked Kushner if there was systemic racism before the protests he would have said no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Amazatron said: This is the clip that John Oliver ended his show with and teared up talking about it. Felt my eyes get a bit watery and when I spoke at the end, my voice was rather hoarse. Powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Both sides! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Florida police organization offers to hire cops who were fired or resigned over police misconduct And 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Remember how Brevard County PD fucked up a response to a school shooting? I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Just now, CayceG said: Remember how Brevard County PD fucked up a response to a school shooting? I remember. That was BROWARD County, Florida, not BREVARD County, Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: That was BROWARD County, Florida, not BREVARD County, Florida Look, I can't be expected to keep all the shitty Florida counties straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: That was BROWARD County, Florida, not BREVARD County, Florida Maybe I'm an anti-Floridite, but they all look the same to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Florida police organization offers to hire cops who were fired or resigned over police misconduct And And this is LITERALLY how bad cops get moved around. This happens ALL of the time. My buddy who works in criminal justice reform just said to me last week that Law Enforcement agencies will openly recruit officers dismissed in other jurisdictions regardless of the reason for dismissal. There you have it right there. Also notice the coded language... "Dumb Mayor" If I'm not mistaken all three cities have black mayors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 lol they've apologized...by apologizing to cops for making their jobs more difficult! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Pretty sure Minneapolis's mayor is a white guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Not black, but...a Karen in Phoenix tells Native American woman to go back to her country and gets slapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 This morning I listened to the latest episode of The Ezra Klein show. He interviewed former federal prosecutor and current Georgetown professor, Paul Butler. He wrote a book in 2017 called Chokehold: Policing Black Men. He shared some shocking statistics about prison, that I was not familiar with. They can be found here. A few that stood out to me. The average length of a prison sentence for murder is 11 years. 96% of prison sentences for violent crime are less than 20 years. Murder has one of the lowest recidivism rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, Littleronin said: Pretty sure Minneapolis's mayor is a white guy. I'm pretty certain that whoever is operating that Twitter account just "naturally" assumed that all of those mayors were African-American, because 2/3 are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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