SaysWho? Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 'Defend Donald Trump': Memo offers unusual window into DeSantis' debate strategy WWW.HERALDTRIBUNE.COM The memo was posted online by the GOP consulting firm behind a pro-DeSantis super PAC. Quote The memo offers "four basic must-dos" for DeSantis at the debate: "1. Attack Joe Biden and the media 3-5 times. 2. State (DeSantis') positive visions 2-3 times. 3) Hammer Vivek Ramaswamy in a response. 4) Defend Trump in absentia in response to a Chris Christie attack." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 This gives you a reason to watch to see if he sticks to the script. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Quote "Take a sledge-hammer to Vivek Ramaswamy: 'Fake Vivek' or 'Vivek the Fake," the memo states. Honestly pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 It’s really amazing to note that if these morons stuck to the script after January 6th, they wouldn’t need to worry about Trump’s insane lead. They should have been calling Trump a loser who lost to Sleepy Joe Biden, cost them the House, and cost them the Senate TWICE with his “picks”, but no, they immediately crawled back to him and now the Republican base mostly believes that the election was stolen, so you can’t even use THAT line of attack now. Instead, everyone but Christie and Pence are still groveling at his feet. Those two will EVENTUALLY fall in line with the “Trump is bad but he's better than Biden” line. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Be a shame if there was some illegal coordination between deshithead and this pac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 I’ll be curious (not really) to hear what are DeSantis 2-3 ‘positive visions’ since having positive visions in the Republican Party makes you a weak libcuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Interesting that Ramaswamy stands out as a target. I agree with bm_bm_bm that he would probably be the best General election candidate for the GOP. Seems I'm not the only one. Of course, it's highly improbable he gets the nomination, but what the hell does 'highly improbable' mean nowadays, when you've got an orange-skinned quadruple-indicted insurrectionist sex offender (who paid a porn star to keep quiet about their affair) with an overwhelming lead amongst the party that styles itself as the defender of 'traditional moral values', and in a dead heat in the polls with the sitting president? So far the 2020s are shaping up to be the decade of improbable realities. Anyway, I still maintain an early primary upset against Trump could give someone else a shot at toppling him. That sounds quixotic, but momentum is the key to winning races, and we live in a quixotic world now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: This gives you a reason to watch to see if he sticks to the script. Christie should definitely turn to Desantis after saying something mean about Trump and be like, "Do you need 30 seconds to respond for the ex president, Governor? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 21 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: Interesting that Ramaswamy stands out as a target. I agree with bm_bm_bm that he would probably be the best General election candidate for the GOP. Seems I'm not the only one. Of course, it's highly improbable he gets the nomination, but what the hell does 'highly improbable' mean nowadays, when you've got an orange-skinned quadruple-indicted insurrectionist sex offender (who paid a porn star to keep quiet about their affair) with an overwhelming lead amongst the party that styles itself as the defender of 'traditional moral values', and in a dead heat in the polls with the sitting president? So far the 2020s are shaping up to be the decade of improbable realities. Anyway, I still maintain an early primary upset against Trump could give someone else a shot at toppling him. That sounds quixotic, but momentum is the key to winning races, and we live in a quixotic world now. You're over thinking it, attacking the brown guy is cause brown people aren't allowed in their version of America. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 To me this reads that he figures his best chance is that trump simply can no longer realistically keep running for president as legal issues continue to build and that the dam eventually bursts leaving room for a non trump candidate in the party. In that scenario, he considers “Vivek the Fake” (lmao) his closest competition to take down and that by defending trump, he would be the one to inherit that base. Maybe not that he thinks trump will definitely not be able to keep running, but that he knows that if he does keep running, there isn’t a chance in hell for desaturated* *My iphone autocorrected desantis as desaturated and I’m keeping it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, osxmatt said: I’ll be curious (not really) to hear what are DeSantis 2-3 ‘positive visions’ since having positive visions in the Republican Party makes you a weak libcuck. Guns for every third grader, no gay shit, and the sanctity of middle school athletics. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 21 minutes ago, TUFKAK said: Guns for every third grader, no gay shit, and the sanctity of middle school athletics. Fewer cases of malaria in a longer duration of time between cases. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 2 hours ago, MarSolo said: It’s really amazing to note that if these morons stuck to the script after January 6th, they wouldn’t need to worry about Trump’s insane lead. They should have been calling Trump a loser who lost to Sleepy Joe Biden, cost them the House, and cost them the Senate TWICE with his “picks”, but no, they immediately crawled back to him and now the Republican base mostly believes that the election was stolen, so you can’t even use THAT line of attack now. Instead, everyone but Christie and Pence are still groveling at his feet. Those two will EVENTUALLY fall in line with the “Trump is bad but he's better than Biden” line. It really makes me wonder what will happen if Trump loses in 2024. The GOP has pretty much become the party of Trump, so if he loses (or, if there is any justice in this world, dies or gets arrested), where does the party go from there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 "Don't go after the guy who has a clear lead in the polls at all" worked so well for the other candidates in 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadatog Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Probably another post mortem telling them to cool down the xenophobia to be more popular with poc that will go completely unheeded and they will turn further to the right 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 2 hours ago, osxmatt said: I’ll be curious (not really) to hear what are DeSantis 2-3 ‘positive visions’ since having positive visions in the Republican Party makes you a weak libcuck. Well apparently even Jesus is too woke for Republicans now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: Interesting that Ramaswamy stands out as a target. I agree with bm_bm_bm that he would probably be the best General election candidate for the GOP. Seems I'm not the only one. Of course, it's highly improbable he gets the nomination, but what the hell does 'highly improbable' mean nowadays, when you've got an orange-skinned quadruple-indicted insurrectionist sex offender (who paid a porn star to keep quiet about their affair) with an overwhelming lead amongst the party that styles itself as the defender of 'traditional moral values', and in a dead heat in the polls with the sitting president? So far the 2020s are shaping up to be the decade of improbable realities. Anyway, I still maintain an early primary upset against Trump could give someone else a shot at toppling him. That sounds quixotic, but momentum is the key to winning races, and we live in a quixotic world now. 1 hour ago, PaladinSolo said: You're over thinking it, attacking the brown guy is cause brown people aren't allowed in their version of America. So I get the latter quote, but Vivek has been climbing in the polls by positioning himself really close to Trump, doing every interview he can, promising to pardon Trump, etc. They're looking to be Trump for people who are looking elsewhere from Trump (or if Trump dies or goes to jail and can't campaign), so Vivek may be siphoning some of that from DeSantis. DeSantis wants Trump voters without alienating Trump voters. Considering not going after Trump hasn't had DeSantis climbing the polls, I'm not saying it's a great strategy, but I think it's as simple as candidates wanting Trump voters without alienating Trump voters. As @Ricofoley said, trying to sidestep Trump didn't do them any favors in 2015/2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 @SaysWho?do you want to just make this the official thread for the debate? It's happening on the 23rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said: @SaysWho?do you want to just make this the official thread for the debate? It's happening on the 23rd. No he will make another thread on the 23rd and halfway through the debate will make another thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, Keyser_Soze said: No he will make another thread on the 23rd and halfway through the debate will make another thread. @SaysWho?will decide if he makes another thread on the 23rd and halfway through makes yet another 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 19, 2023 Author Share Posted August 19, 2023 I have decided. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Trump isn't going to the first debate, and instead is giving an interview to Tucker Carlson, honestly going to be funny if he just doesn't run, and all these idiots bought Trump 2024 swag, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 8 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Honestly pathetic I absolutely refuse to believe that's the best that Ricotta Ron's staffers/consultants could come up with and can only conclude that they're deliberately trolling him, but he's too stupid to realize it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: they're deliberately trolling him, but he's too stupid to realize it. I mean… someone told him these boots looked good: 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 23 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: I mean… someone told him these boots looked good: It takes a special kind of asshole for me to still not feel sorry for them being tricked into wearing THOSE in public Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 54 minutes ago, stepee said: It takes a special kind of asshole for me to still not feel sorry for them being tricked into wearing THOSE in public 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 8 hours ago, TUFKAK said: Guns for every third grader, no gay shit, and the sanctity of middle school athletics. … surely woke has to be in there 30-50 times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 8 hours ago, marioandsonic said: It really makes me wonder what will happen if Trump loses in 2024. The GOP has pretty much become the party of Trump, so if he loses (or, if there is any justice in this world, dies or gets arrested), where does the party go from there? Trump Jr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 6 hours ago, Spork3245 said: Sadly those are an improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, DPCyric said: Sadly those are an improvement I’m with you. He went from toddler learning to walk in boots vibes to consensual and powerful boss bitch vibes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 7 hours ago, Spork3245 said: Don't post pics like that ITT Wade is trying to abstain from masturbation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Don't post pics like that ITT Wade is trying to abstain from masturbation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 13 hours ago, stepee said: It takes a special kind of asshole for me to still not feel sorry for them being tricked into wearing THOSE in public TBF those boots could look cool if he was Prince and not some middle age fat chud wearing jeans and a cringe vest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 19 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: Trump isn't going to the first debate, and instead is giving an interview to Tucker Carlson, honestly going to be funny if he just doesn't run, and all these idiots bought Trump 2024 swag, lol. Oh he’s running. Thankfully, most of his new coverage in 2024 is going to be him sitting in a courtroom, going into a courtroom, or leaving a courtroom and that’s going to go as well as for him as the media constantly talking about Hillary’s emails went for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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