Jason Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 New Nintendo Switch production to begin in June, will be 4K when docked ARSTECHNICA.COM Bloomberg report locks down details about new OLED panel supply chain. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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crispy4000 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Only a 720p screen is a little disappointing. But if they can do something DLSS-related for quality, perhaps that could tighten up the aliasing. OLED should also be nice. Gotta be doing something like that to get to 720p. Or maybe there's some brains in the dock? ... This thing is going to be crazy to find if they intend to make it a holiday release like the PS5/XSX were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, crispy4000 said: Only a 720p screen is a little disappointing. But if they can do something DLSS-related for quality, perhaps that could tighten up the aliasing. OLED should also be nice. Gotta be doing something like that to get to 720p. Or maybe there's some brains in the dock? ... This thing is going to be crazy to find if they intend to make it a holiday release like the PS5/XSX were. Comment from the article: Quote I doubt it will be DLSS as we currently know it as that uses tensor cores that the switch almost certainly won't have. The current ShieldTV has very good AI based upscaling. So, my guess is this for the revision. Smaller bezels so that the chassis is otherwise the same to house the 7" OLED. OLED means no-backlight which means the whole display unit is thinner (especially if it's laminated, the existing LCD on the switch is pretty far below the outer screen.) Thinner display frees up internal space for a redesigned thermal system that allows them to squeeze a bit more performance out of the X1 when docked to employ a similar AI upscale as the ShieldTV 2019. There's just no real good choices out there to replace the SoC in the switch and I really doubt anything with significant performance improvements could be out there sampling at this point and not have someone catch wind of it. So, this really points to a tweaked X1. Maybe they'll do another die shrink? 16nm is still pretty big by today's st andards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 The screen is pro but the hardware is still poor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer.tv Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Unless they are making an actual follow up - who is this console really for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I don't really mind 720p on the screen since it's a small screen, and wouldn't really benefit from 4K anyway. Being able to take advantage of 4K on a 65" TV optimal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 6 hours ago, gamer.tv said: Unless they are making an actual follow up - who is this console really for? Well there were 3 core Nintendo DS models, that's not counting the 2DS & 3DS, so ... Always a market for their stuff, that's why Nintendo is always marching to the beat of their own drum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Switch Pro and Botw 2 released on the same day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 7 hours ago, Jason said: Comment from the article: I doubt Nintendo is getting to 4K any other way docked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 7 hours ago, gamer.tv said: Unless they are making an actual follow up - who is this console really for? I’ve been holding off on playing specific Switch games I already own, because I don’t want to deal with egregious performance and resolution drops. I also want BotW2 without the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I hope they release at $300 but I’m guessing $400. I need a new switch, mine sounds like a jet engine when it boots, I think one of the fans is busted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 41 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: I’ve been holding off on playing specific Switch games I already own, because I don’t want to deal with egregious performance and resolution drops. I also want BotW2 without the same. Just curious. What games have egregious performance in your opinion. 4 minutes ago, Paperclyp said: I hope they release at $300 but I’m guessing $400. I need a new switch, mine sounds like a jet engine when it boots, I think one of the fans is busted. Weird. Mine is silent. Docked or handheld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Just now, Biggie said: Just curious. What games have egregious performance in your opinion. Animal Crossing if you have a bunch of flowers growing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 52 minutes ago, Biggie said: Just curious. What games have egregious performance in your opinion. Age of Calamity most recently. I've been holding off on Xenoblade 2's standalone DLC as well, because of the dramatic resolution dips + ugly sharpening of the base game. It's the game I want to play most that I refuse to. I want my next experience with that world to look better. There's a bunch of ports that run poorly supposedly, but I haven't bothered with any of them. Some like Overcooked 2 and Bloodstained sound like a real shame considering how well they'd otherwise fit the form factor. I'm skeptical about newer releases running well too. BoTW2, No More Heroes 3, etc. Smash has garbage input lag, but I doubt a revision will fix that. But if it does, I'll play it. I bounced off it almost immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 23 minutes ago, Biggie said: Weird. Mine is silent. Docked or handheld. Let’s just say there have been a few mishaps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjomesphat Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 41 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: Age of Calamity most recently. I've been holding off on Xenoblade 2's standalone DLC as well, because of the dramatic resolution dips + ugly sharpening of the base game. It's the game I want to play most that I refuse to. I want my next experience with that world to look better. There's a bunch of ports that run poorly supposedly, but I haven't bothered with any of them. Some like Overcooked 2 and Bloodstained sound like a real shame considering how well they'd otherwise fit the form factor. I'm skeptical about newer releases running well too. BoTW2, No More Heroes 3, etc. Smash has garbage input lag, but I doubt a revision will fix that. But if it does, I'll play it. I bounced off it almost immediately. About finished with this one on the Switch. I don't know where it was at launch, but I probably wish I had gotten it on PC. Obviously I like that it's portable, but the 30fps was a real bummer, and load times are pretty bad. Like just switching rooms can sometimes take 2-3 seconds depending on the location, and after a death it can take 30 seconds to reload. Not sure if a new Switch would really help. Seems like bad programming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 9 hours ago, gamer.tv said: Unless they are making an actual follow up - who is this console really for? The many, many people like me who are fed up with the Switch's terrible framerate and resolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 2 hours ago, best3444 said: Switch Pro and Botw 2 released on the same day. Thats been the rumor for a year now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Lol who cares about 4k. Give me 720p at 60fps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 2 hours ago, crispy4000 said: I doubt Nintendo is getting to 4K any other way docked. It could be hardware in the new dock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 10 hours ago, Jason said: Comment from the article: Well, that’s just some dude commenting on the article. Nvidia already has a apu with tensor cores, they would need to repurpose it but they also could be making a new apu that debuts with this, or some kind of custom job in between. Nvidia could definitely get Nintendo a chip that has tensor cores, it’s just a matter if this revision was worth the effort for it. I expect it to happen with whatever actual hardware upgrade they do eventually anyway. The AI on shield tv is just software running off the same chip as the switch, if that’s all they want to do they should technically just be able to do it as a software update on the existing switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Jason said: It could be hardware in the new dock. I'd be for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Biggie said: Just curious. What games have egregious performance in your opinion. BotW really chugs in some places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: BotW really chugs in some places. I figured that would be corrected on the Switch, but I guess not. I’m playing through on the Wii U right now and a few villages are just horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 17 minutes ago, Joe said: I figured that would be corrected on the Switch, but I guess not. I’m playing through on the Wii U right now and a few villages are just horrendous. Some of the villages are rough, as are parts of the Lost Woods and when certain weather effects are happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Biggie said: Just curious. What games have egregious performance in your opinion. Age or Calamity runs terribly. Bowsers Fury is reduced from 60fps to 30fps in handheld mode Xenoblade 2 runs at like 3DS res at 15fps at times and is super low res all the time Yoshi’s resolution is like 540p and blurry Links Awakening remake has huge 60 to 30fps locked drops throughout the overworld Kirby is locked to 30fps both modes Pokemon Sword and Shield has a terrible frame rate in the wild areas This is just some of the Nintendo stuff, third party stuff is often harder to critique because it’s usually toned down from other more powerful systems, but obviously all that stuff can look and run much better. Then you just look at the recent stuff Calamity’s poor performance, Bowsers Fury having its fps cut in half from Odyssey, Pokémon Legends is early but the fps looks pretty bad..the writing is kind of on the wall that it’s time for an upgrade or things will get rough. Its no knock to the switch, you know how much I love the platform, it’s just what happens with all these systems around the time they hit 4+ years as developers try to make better looking games on power that has been tapped out. I’m okay with keeping the current switch platform another two years, release something then that can do ports of the ps5/xsx gen stuff like switch could do for last gen. But man, I’m ready for something in between to make these games run smoother while we wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, BloodyHell said: Thats been the rumor for a year now. That would be dope as fuck. I'd be all over Nintendo's balls again if they pull that off this holiday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Man, I will obviously fucking need this thing day one but yeah I am NOT looking forward to trying to buy one, especially if it’s a holiday release. I hope preorders are opened up early like some time in late summer at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I'll probably end up buying this, and give my current Switch to my niece to justify the upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 33 minutes ago, stepee said: Man, I will obviously fucking need this thing day one but yeah I am NOT looking forward to trying to buy one, especially if it’s a holiday release. I hope preorders are opened up early like some time in late summer at least. Dude...you got a ps5 at launch. You'll be fine with getting the switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I want a switch lite that can hook up to a TV. Don't care about 4k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, best3444 said: Dude...you got a ps5 at launch. You'll be fine with getting the switch. Yeah, but that 3080 took me like a month! Don’t wanna do that again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, stepee said: Yeah, but that 3080 took me like a month! Don’t wanna do that again. I'm still trying (3070 instead of 3080, but still, same problems) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 I'd like a far more powerful switch, but I won't expect one. I also have hardly touched my Switch in the last year+. BOTW2 will get me playing again, but I think I'd need more than just that to upgrade a console. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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