mclumber1 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 What are the personal legal ramifications for creating a false affidavit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Hot take: fuck joe lieberman Hot take: fuck that entire family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexy_shapiro Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Jason and I have an ally in... Bill Kristol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe said: Spain. They have elections like every year and nobody wins. That seems like "heaven on earth" in comparison to this unfolding debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I really miss the days where I could just live my life without constantly worrying about whether or not we’re hurtling toward a second Civil War. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chairslinger Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: For all the hand wringing about Trump expanding his vote, it's looking like when all is said and done we are going to be back down close to his 2016 number of 42% koolaid drinkers along with 4% that "came home" in the end. He's already down to 47.5%, and the outstanding vote is likely to be heavily Democratic, right? I heard someone make a great point about the horribleness of trying to delegitimize Biden. Not only did he win the EC and not only is he going to win the popular vote by many millions of votes, unlike Hillary he won a clear majority of all voters! Just imagine a scenario where Trump does pull this off? How illegitimate does the GOP want their presidency to be? 3 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: I really miss the days where I could just live my life without constantly worrying about whether or not we’re hurdling toward a second Civil War. Don't sell Trump short, with the way Europe and Canada is lining up on one side and dictators are lining up on the other we can turn this bitch into WWIII! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: How illegitimate does the GOP want their presidency to be? Might makes right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: I really miss the days where I could just live my life without constantly worrying about whether or not we’re hurtling toward a second Civil War. I am trying to stop viewing this thread because of that. However I am a Dark Eldar player so I still come in. (Read I am a masochist) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Yeah pencil me in as another user who has to check out of this thread. Election week was bad enough, not sure I can mentally take December and January like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Biden trying to give a speech about unity today while Trump and his minions are still trying to take his knees out from under him reminds me of this....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 MASSIVE FRAUD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: MASSIVE FRAUD! The chuds will never hear the correction and Lady G et al know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, Comet said: Yeah pencil me in as another user who has to check out of this thread. Election week was bad enough, not sure I can mentally take December and January like this. you will doom post with the rest of us and you will dread it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: The other 20% are completely lost in the right wing media bubble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, CitizenVectron said: Give Fox a couple weeks and it will be down to 60%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I agree that proportional representation systems are better, but let's not pretend they're perfect. Hitler came from one, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Biden not getting intel reports because Trump officials deny he won WWW.NBCNEWS.COM Biden transition officials confirmed the president-elect is not receiving the President's Daily Brief, the intel report that goes to senior U.S. officials. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Alternative explanation, just marginally better than coup planning: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 8 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: Hawley uhhh doing a good thing? I would find it useful if someone had links to all the articles written about GOP state legislatures blocking these efforts. I haven’t had the time to dig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Alternative explanation, just marginally better than coup planning: Basically, Trump doesn't want Biden in the office, or a lot of thing's Trump has done may finally get brought to light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, marioandsonic said: Basically, Trump doesn't want Biden in the office, or a lot of thing's Trump has done may finally get brought to light. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Massdriver said: I would find it useful if someone had links to all the articles written about GOP state legislatures blocking these efforts. I haven’t had the time to dig. Its all pretty straight forward, the Dem governors in WI/MI/PA all wanted laws changed so they could count mail ballots before election day, the GOP led legislatures all refused, in Michigan all Whitmer got was they allowed them to at least process the ballots the day before in counties with 25000 or more registrants but not count them. Its also why people saying PA legislature is just going to pick its electors is dumb, cause they have to change the law first and thats not happening with a Governor Wolfe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Biden is going to win GA by more than AZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Reputator said: Dude if they lost Tucker, that's game over. He'll shortly be back to his regularly scheduled shit show. 3 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: This is me after skipping the last 2 days of this thread... 2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: For what it's worth, I really do believe that this incredibly incompetent coup attempt will fail. However, if it wasn't BLATANTLY OBVIOUS before it SURE AS HELL must be now that those norms-based "guardrails" constraining bad actors within the American political system are laughably useless jokes to the point that claiming their existence is nothing short of delusional. The damage to the US political system is irreparable at this point - there is no coming back from it. Let us all hope that the inevitable dissolution is as relatively peaceful as possible. 1 hour ago, Uaarkson said: I really miss the days where I could just live my life without constantly worrying about whether or not we’re hurtling toward a second Civil War. On our current trajectory, I just can't see a peaceful separation after the Kyle Rittenhouse incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Uaarkson said: I really miss the days where I could just live my life without constantly worrying about whether or not we’re hurtling toward a second Civil War. I miss when I could go outside and not worry about catching a highly dangerous virus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Kal-El814 said: Has Project Veritas ever been right about anything? No. They are a ratfucking organization. In an actual just and lawful society O'Keefe and his goons would be hammering rocks in a penal colony on the moon. An anthropologist should study the connection between how bigoted and hateful a right-wing chud is and how ugly they are: Their inherent ugliness on the inside reflects on the outside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 What I was listening to was specifically about Nevada, but on NPR just now they had people talking about how the GOP probably got boosted by Republicans being willing to knock on doors a lot earlier than Democrats were since Republicans don't take COVID seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 On 11/8/2020 at 1:51 PM, Greatoneshere said: It's not hyperbole to me - and I do feel like people are asking me to coddle them, in fact, so it doesn't feel disingenuous to suggest that coddling apparently needs to entail everything. You mention the progressive message - I'm 33 years old and been a progressive my whole life. After Bush won in 2000 I was 14 years old and became very politically active and haven't stopped since (got lazy during the Obama years though). After spreading it for 33 years we're now where we are. I've been "advertising" to this group from every possible angle fro 20 years now. I've tried everything. Everything? Everything. Bernie's been trying for decades. Nothing works. You act like this is our first chance to truly reach them. Wrong. This election was their last chance to prove to us they are moral people. They failed the test. Yet we're all out here saying: "let's speak to them". "Advertise differently". They are bad faith voters, bad faith actors, and bad faith debators, who hypocritically ask to get away with everything while holding the rest of us to an almost untenable standard. There is no seed. There is no different way. In 33 years, it's only gotten worse so why do we think they'll do a 180 on the downward trajectory they've been on since the 1980's and suddenly see the light? The only way is to actually institute the progressive policies that will help them. And they'll never get on board those policies, so we have to do it while fighting against them. It's the only way. I still feel your representation of the arguments I am trying to make is hyperbole, and as for the rest of your viewpoint we just simply have a disagreement (right now). I now understand your sentiment about this being their last chance, so I will not wholly disagree with you. Fighting will definitely need to be done. Whether or not I believe some of those people deserve a chance to redeem themselves is just something I will have to observe and examine from here on out. Your experiences tell you it's over and mine do not; however your arguments are convicting and it does make me sadder and angrier each passing day after reading right-wing comments from everyday people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Jason said: What I was listening to was specifically about Nevada, but on NPR just now they had people talking about how the GOP probably got boosted by Republicans being willing to knock on doors a lot earlier than Democrats were since Republicans don't take COVID seriously. Yeah this seems to be a general consensus, but uhhh he lost to Biden by a bigger margin in NV than he did against Clinton, and its still growing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Yeah this seems to be a general consensus, but uhhh he lost to Biden by a bigger margin in NV than he did against Clinton, and its still growing. Sure but I'm thinking about this beyond Nevada. Other states maybe swing the other way if the Democratic ground game isn't hampered by the pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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