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The county I live in went from about 150 cases for the week starting in June to almost 1,000 for the week staring in July. 

 

My smallish town also seemed to lose it's damn mind when in came to the 4th. Not only did they hold the annual fireworks show, which is one of the few mass gatherings in town all year, but seemingly half the houses on my block had their own gatherings and displays. At some points, there were so many fireworks going off in so many directions it sounded like a goddamn artillary barrage.

 

So I doubt the numbers are going to be improving in the coming weeks.

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6 minutes ago, Littleronin said:

Does somebody want to let him know how flawed that Michigan study was that excluded a large swath of people that are still hospitalized or died?

Wouldn’t matter. He could have known before making the tweet and he’d still have made the same tweet. 
 

he could have even linked to an article spelling out the flaws, written by somebody from HFHS so was involved in the trial. It could explicitly contradict Swampy Don’s assertion and his followers would read his tweet and ignore the facts in the article. 
 

 

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239 Experts With One Big Claim: The Coronavirus Is Airborne (New York Times)

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The coronavirus is finding new victims worldwide, in bars and restaurants, offices, markets and casinos, giving rise to frightening clusters of infection that increasingly confirm what many scientists have been saying for months: The virus lingers in the air indoors, infecting those nearby.

 

If airborne transmission is a significant factor in the pandemic, especially in crowded spaces with poor ventilation, the consequences for containment will be significant. Masks may be needed indoors, even in socially-distant settings. Health care workers may need N95 masks that filter out even the smallest respiratory droplets as they care for coronavirus patients.

 

Ventilation systems in schools, nursing homes, residences and businesses may need to minimize recirculating air and add powerful new filters. Ultraviolet lights may be needed to kill viral particles floating in tiny droplets indoors.

 

The World Health Organization has long held that the coronavirus is spread primarily by large respiratory droplets that, once expelled by infected people in coughs and sneezes, fall quickly to the floor.

 

From a practical standpoint, I don't see this necessarily changing already-established patterns in places that have already imposed significant restrictions.

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19 minutes ago, chakoo said:

Does ice even have legal jurisdiction to do that? That feels like overreach to me. 

 

For whatever stupid reason, apparently they were put in charge of the student visa program. Prior to this administration, I think. 

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The Lancet: large-scale antibody study from Spain strengthens evidence that COVID-19 herd immunity may be "unachievable"

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Spain's large-scale study on the coronavirus indicates just 5% of its population has developed antibodies, strengthening evidence that a so-called herd immunity to Covid-19 is "unachievable," the medical journal the Lancet reported on Monday.

 

The findings show that 95% of Spain's population remains susceptible to the virus. Herd immunity is achieved when enough of a population has become infected with a virus or bacteria -- or vaccinated against it -- to stop its circulation.

 

The European Center for Disease Control told CNN that Spain's research, on a nationwide representative sample of more than 61,000 participants, appears to be the largest study to date among a dozen serological studies on the coronavirus undertaken by European nations.

 

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27 minutes ago, chakoo said:

Does ice even have legal jurisdiction to do that? That feels like overreach to me. 


my big thing is “How the hell are they going to get back to their home country?” Seriously, HOW!?!? Everyone has closed/closing their boarders to people coming in/back from the states because of their lack of a Covid strategy 

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9 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said:

Schools opening is literally the only way people can actually go back to work.

It’s also going to be a major cause of cases spiking even more. It’s part of the reason flu season is Oct - May. 
 

so hurray, they get hired, their kid brings home Covid, they and/or their kid gets sick, they have to take off work, and they’re fired. The only thing that benefits is the virus. 

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4 minutes ago, silentbob said:


my big thing is “How the hell are they going to get back to their home country?” Seriously, HOW!?!? Everyone has closed/closing their boarders to people coming in/back from the states because of their lack of a Covid strategy 

If they're citizens of another country, I assume that their governments would be more concerned with their own than we with ours and would test/isolate/quarantine those who have to come back.

 

This is a massive blow to universities. These people don't pay subsidized (for what little that is worth anymore) tuition because they're out of state. This is to force universities into a choice: further open for in class instruction and risk infection of the community OR lose big money in a time of budget cuts.

 

All this because we REFUSE to have the feds print money to keep things in stasis until the virus is sufficiently eradicated.

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12 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

For whatever stupid reason, apparently they were put in charge of the student visa program. Prior to this administration, I think. 

I get there is an issue with people overstaying their student visa but that was a stupid idea. 

 

3 minutes ago, silentbob said:


my big thing is “How the hell are they going to get back to their home country?” Seriously, HOW!?!? Everyone has closed/closing their boarders to people coming in/back from the states because of their lack of a Covid strategy 

I'd worry less about that bit since most countries have some exception for letting back in citizens.

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1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

If they're citizens of another country, I assume that their governments would be more concerned with their own than we with ours and would test/isolate/quarantine those who have to come back.

Why would they take them back? It’s not like they sent their best in the first place. They were probably glad to be rid of them. 

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56 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said:

239 Experts With One Big Claim: The Coronavirus Is Airborne (New York Times)

 

From a practical standpoint, I don't see this necessarily changing already-established patterns in places that have already imposed significant restrictions.

While you're probably right, if it stays airborne for a significant period of time the imposed restrictions are probably inadequate 

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4 minutes ago, mrbiggsly said:

Trump was right. UV lights everywhere to kill the virus is probably cheaper than reworking air handling systems. Just wear sunscreen and you'll be fine.

Omg robocop 2 was right!

 

edit: about the sunblock 5000, not about the loss of the ozone layer just yet :nervous:

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I’m putting my daughter back in daycare starting tomorrow. I am nervous about it but my wife and I can’t work and look after her anymore. My mom can’t help because she is in the at risk group. Its too expensive to hire someone to come over 8 hours a day. It sucks. 

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I mean, I guess we'll see. If the total stays at, or drops further from, 250 per day in the coming weeks then maybe he has a point.

 

But if it shoots up again due to the lag time of the spike in cases, something tells me he will be less than intellectually honest in what that weekly trend of his means in the big picture.

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Chairslinger said:

 

 

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I mean, I guess we'll see. If the total stays at, or drops further from, 250 per day in the coming weeks then maybe he has a point.

 

But if it shoots up again due to the lag time of the spike in cases, something tells me he will be less than intellectually honest in what that weekly trend of his means in the big picture.

 

 

 

What? No. You can't just pick the most recent number and call it a fucking day. Like if there was massive variance in the numbers, you could take the median and still it would be way higher than 250. Time won't prove him wrong. He's already wrong.

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