CitizenVectron Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 If the Cardinals win the Superbowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I’m surprised Laurence Tribe isn’t in the Epstein flight logs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Spoiler I know it's not happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Nadler said they were basically starting the proceedings today so I dunno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I'm going to vote Yes, even though I will be wrong. But pls fate, make me right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 4 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said: If the Cardinals win the Superbowl. When the Angels win the Pennant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 What are the odds Pelosi gives them the go ahead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBladeRoden Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 10 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said: If the Cardinals win the Superbowl. The St. Louis Cardinals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 13 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said: If the Cardinals win the Superbowl. This reminds me of the year the Cardinals actually made it to the superbowl and I told him at the beginning of the season (maybe the playoffs) that they'd go to the superbowl and when they did he thought I was a god of sports predicting after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 14 hours ago, Anathema- said: Nadler said they were basically starting the proceedings today so I dunno It’s more like they’re creating a committee to explore the validity of a decision and interest on whether or not to begin impeachment proceedings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: It’s more like they’re creating a committee to explore the validity of a decision and interest on whether or not to begin impeachment proceedings. It's just the judiciary committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Anathema- said: It's just the judiciary committee. My point is, the way they’re phrasing this it is more like they’re still looking into if they can and want to start impeachment, rather actually starting impeachment proceedings. It doesn’t yet seem like they’re committed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 There's a valid argument that the House's hand is strengthened during impeachment and although that seems obvious; less obvious is that Congress has a right to this stuff anyway, without official impeachment proceedings actively underway, and setting a precedent that impeachment proceedings are necessary to begin oversight would be bad. As much as I'd like Pelosi to lead on this, she's protecting her majority. That's secondary to me but I get it. I think she has it backwards but thankfully she's not the only leader in the House. Nadler clearly wants to begin impeachment and is only allowing himself to be constrained by the full House. It would appear he has a majority in his committee to vote for it as well. It would probably be good politics to limit the public proceedings to the judiciary committee for the time being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaladinSolo Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 more dems announced they are in favor of impeachment, putting it at 116 house dems in favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 He won't be impeached. Are Dems hoping it will help them in next year's election if they take yet another big swing at Trump and whiff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Scott said: He won't be impeached. Are Dems hoping it will help them in next year's election if they take yet another big swing at Trump and whiff? I don't think it's an election calculation for those advocating it. It's probably legitimately a "principal" issue now or they're getting an earful from their constituents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: I don't think it's an election calculation for those advocating it. It's probably legitimately a "principal" issue now or they're getting an earful from their constituents. Regardless if the impeachment is successful or not, I think it's important that they follow through, as it would at least set the (very low) standard by which future Presidents should be judged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: Regardless if the impeachment is successful or not, I think it's important that they follow through, as it would at least set the (very low) standard by which future Presidents should be judged. I would be open to retroactively impeaching Barack for the Libya intervention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Primaries work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Primaries work. @Engel?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Engel resurrected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Engel resurrected Too slow. Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, Jason said: Too slow. Sad. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Impeachment doesn't need to "work" to be a process that lays out the treason, bribery, and high crimes & misdemeanors of our current president well into the election; not to mention force vulnerable senators to impale themselves defending him up to and including Moscow Mitch. The House won't even get a chance to finish their proceedings before the Senate will be bombarded with questions and the real problem for trump, the thing that will drive him the most insane, is that it will be a source of daily news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Impeachment doesn't need to "work" to be a process that lays out the treason, bribery, and high crimes & misdemeanors of our current president well into the election; not to mention force vulnerable senators to impale themselves defending him up to and including Moscow Mitch. The House won't even get a chance to finish their proceedings before the Senate will be bombarded with questions and the real problem for trump, the thing that will drive him the most insane, is that it will be a source of daily news. lol, its funny that you think the GOP or any of it's supporters care about any crime Trump committed. And he loves the news cycle, good or bad. When its good he brags, and when its bad he rages to fire up his base. Impeachment will go nowhere, period. If anything, it'll siphon centrist voters to the right, because they are sick of rehashing the exact same talking points day after day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 39 minutes ago, TheGreatGamble said: Impeachment will go nowhere, period. If anything, it'll siphon centrist voters to the right, because they are sick of rehashing the exact same talking points day after day. There is nothing to back that up. More so trump has done loads to alienate the moderates (it’s why his numbers are far below when he was elected). You are right that gop won’t care. They’ve shown that they’re complacent with all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatGamble Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, chakoo said: There is nothing to back that up. More so trump has done loads to alienate the moderates (it’s why his numbers are far below when he was elected). You are right that gop won’t care. They’ve shown that they’re complacent with all of this. Trump has never had good numbers, but he has numbers in the states that matter. And Pelosi isn't impeaching because she knows that it will only make republicans turn out in droves, and centrists vote republican. The far left has it's own problems, and i'd say that many centrists would rather vote for a bad person than a far left candidate with what they consider bad policy. Student loan forgiveness, UBI talk, green new deal, all that stuff is just pushing moderates further right. The right might be horrible, but they are unified. The left has multiple parties within a party, and they hate each other as much as they hate the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, TheGreatGamble said: Student loan forgiveness, UBI talk, green new deal, all that stuff is just pushing moderates further right [Citation needed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 But yes, the left hates everyone both further to the left, and further to the right than themselves, and the right is united in their hated for anything left of Donald Trump, no matter what the policy actually is. This is basically the story of republics since their founding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, TheGreatGamble said: And Pelosi isn't impeaching because she knows that it will only make republicans turn out in droves, and centrists vote republican. What would be the basis of this position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Who fucking cares if "Republicans turn out in droves" or that "centrists vote Republican"? Pro-tip: if a "centrist" actually votes for this incarnation of the Republican Party, they're not a "centrist" anyway. As my favorite Central American right-wing death squad commander once said, "The political center is like an anus: it stinks and is full of shit." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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