Joe Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: http://www.reuters.com//article/_next/static/images/favicon-196x196-052cc719f1ac872e3544e51801338b46.png U.S. Justice Ginsburg hits back at liberals who want her to retire | Reuters WWW.REUTERS.COM U.S. Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has a message for liberals who have been saying the 81-year-old should step down while Democratic President Barack Obama is in office so... I'm not dying on a hill to defend this shit @chakoo @Jason@mclumber1 Please upvote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Fuck, beaten to the punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I blame capitalism for somebody so old to still be so determined to work when you don’t need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Oh wow I totally got told off by a dead person who died to let a president who has been eroding the country’s laws with help from Barr put someone in who will continue to destroy this country. yeah no fuck her, she still bares responsibility for this. This damage will erode her legacy and she deserves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, chakoo said: Oh wow I totally got told off by a dead person who died to let a president who has been eroding the country’s laws with help from Barr. yeah no fuck her, she still bares responsibility for this. This damage will erode her legacy and she deserves it. No, it won’t. Stop dying on this hill. It’s beneath you all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, chakoo said: Oh wow I totally got told off by a dead person who died to let a president who has been eroding the country’s laws with help from Barr put someone in who will continue to destroy this country. yeah no fuck her, she still bares responsibility for this. This damage will erode her legacy and she deserves it. Maybe in Canada this sentence makes sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 It is fine to talk about her decisions and how they’re negatively impacting us. But we also don’t have to be ducks about it whether you are mad at RBG or upset rn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I'm really scared right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Call me crazy, but getting angry at someone for not retiring sooner seems rather dumb. Like, was RBG supposed to look into her crystal ball in 2014 and see that somehow the fat real estate guy with no legislative experience was somehow going to become President? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, Joe said: @chakoo @Jason@mclumber1 Please upvote! Hell yeah free up votes gimmie that winning the day trophy right into my veins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, MarSolo said: Call me crazy, but getting angry at someone for not retiring sooner seems rather dumb. Like, was RBG supposed to look into her crystal ball in 2014 and see that somehow the fat real estate guy with no legislative experience was somehow going to become President? Maybe don't bet on your health when you're an 80+ cancer survivor. If not trump it could have been rubio or cruz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Everything you didn’t even think you wanted to know about Supreme Court retirements - The Washington Post WWW.WASHINGTONPOST.COM Inside the mind of Ruth Bader Ginsburg. John paul stephens knows what's up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 I wish I could be a fly on the wall of Susan Collins HQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, MarSolo said: Call me crazy, but getting angry at someone for not retiring sooner seems rather dumb. Like, was RBG supposed to look into her crystal ball in 2014 and see that somehow the fat real estate guy with no legislative experience was somehow going to become President? I work in software, I prepare every day that some random person in the future will fart and cause Google Cloud to fail a network call in my cloud services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, MarSolo said: Call me crazy, but getting angry at someone for not retiring sooner seems rather dumb. Like, was RBG supposed to look into her crystal ball in 2014 and see that somehow the fat real estate guy with no legislative experience was somehow going to become President? she was old af and knew she was full of cancer for like 15 years when Obama started so yeah I'm angry at her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 She absolutely should've stepped down when Dems had the Senate and the presidency, but let's be real, the central issue is the absolute dogshit constitutional system we have where an octogenarian guessing wrong about their health for the next four years has the potential to completely shift the balance of power for the next generation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: She absolutely should've stepped down when Dems had the Senate and the presidency, but let's be real, the central issue is the absolute dogshit constitutional system we have where an octogenarian guessing wrong about their health for the next four years has the potential to completely shift the balance of power for the next generation That's the absolutely fundamental root of the entire problem. As I said earlier, the notion that the ideological composition of the judiciary -- an institution that is effectively a "lifetime term of office" -- should even be an electoral consideration represents an irreparable, fatal flaw that practically renders the rest of the political system moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Age 38 and 48 respectively 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, MarSolo said: Call me crazy, but getting angry at someone for not retiring sooner seems rather dumb. Like, was RBG supposed to look into her crystal ball in 2014 and see that somehow the fat real estate guy with no legislative experience was somehow going to become President? Given the length of service for the average SCOTUS appointment, which is actually getting longer as the Federalist Society has pushed the GOP to appoint younger judges at every level of the federal judiciary, Ginsburg should have had the foresight to see that retiring when Obama was POTUS and the Dems has a senate majority was the sensible moment to step down as an 80 year old. Thats why people were asking her to do it in the op-Ed sections of major papers. There is no upside for the left side of the aisle to her serving however many years she would have left when they could have put somebody in their late 40s/early 50s and kept that seat left leaning for 30 more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 At this point, I simply cannot think of any single aspect of the American constitutional framework that isn't fatally compromised in some way simply because it was intended for a political entity that would never grow beyond a white, largely Protestant, male-dominated elite class. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Ricofoley said: Age 38 and 48 respectively I'm going to put my money on Amy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I read it wrong and was wondering how RGB lighting was dead and what made it political. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: Age 38 and 48 respectively I am 99.9% sure it will be Barrett. Rushing is too bold a move and one that could actually get Borked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: At this point, I simply cannot think of any single aspect of the American constitutional framework that isn't fatally compromised in some way simply because it was intended for a political entity that would never grow beyond a white, largely Protestant, male-dominated elite class. More and more I think that when the history of this period is written a few decades from now, assuming we haven't just cooked ourselves by then, the consensus is going to be that we've been in one uninterrupted political crisis at least since the 2000 election, and everything that's happening now is kind of the late stages of a domino effect that could only have been stopped years before now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: More and more I think that when the history of this period is written a few decades from now, assuming we haven't just cooked ourselves by then, the consensus is going to be that we've been in one uninterrupted political crisis at least since the 2000 election, and everything that's happening now is kind of the late stages of a domino effect that could only have been stopped years before now. I honestly don't believe that it could ever have been stopped with the demographic shift away from a dominantly white Protestant society, and that's only one of the many centrifugal forces spinning things apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 It’s kinda true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Apparently if Mark Kelly wins he would possibly be sworn in by November 30th. That makes me think the GOP is going to try and time this out so that confirmation hearing begin in late October and conclude right after the election. Can’t let it drag on too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 How many republicans do they need to flip? 3? this is gonna be a total shit show. This is gonna be BAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Are there any possible nuclear plays that the Dems could make (assuming they had the will, which they of course do not) to delay this? I seem to recall the GOP constantly delaying stuff when they are in the minority. Isn't there some "I file a hold from the cloakroom by putting my boot on the ceremonial blanket" move? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I mean, for a not-insignificant portion of the GOP power elite, Trump's actual re-election just kinda/sorta became irrelevant because their One, True Goal is now VERY much within their reach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: I mean, for a not-insignificant portion of the GOP power elite, Trump's actual re-election just kinda/sorta became irrelevant because their One, True Goal is now VERY much within their reach. They literally could not care less if Biden wins if they get a federalist society selection to fill RBGs seat. They would do it even if they knew the result would lose them the election. They know the Dems don’t have the guts to try court packing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 This is black comedy. This video gave me a fucking stroke. I truly can't comprehend that this whole thing isn't just some work. All I can do is cackle at the absolute absurdity of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Looking for a silver lining and...nope. Got nothing. Best you can hope for is either A.) the conservative supermajority doesn’t last long due to unforeseen retirements/deaths, or B.) people having their ability to get an abortion, marry their partner, change their healthcare system, etc. taken away galvanizes a generational shift in the electorate that installs a more balanced or liberal court down the line. Neither is much to hang your dreams on. I sympathize with the sentiment behind a ‘pack the court!’ strategy, but I think it’s short-sighted. Once you start expanding the court, every new Congress is going to do it, Republican and Democrat, and the whole system will collapse. Either way, it’s the newest generation that’s going to have to bail us out of this mess now. The current electorate is not up to the task, methinks. Here’s to hoping that the youth pull us out of our post-imperial slump. If and when they do, I wouldn’t be surprised if ‘Remember 2020?’ is their rallying cry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Democratic Brain: Threaten this, but back down anyway and give in when McConnell pushes, and don't pack the courts. Republican Brain: Threaten this, and if McConnell gives in, pack the courts anyway. We all know the Democrats are going to use Democratic Brain, they are wimps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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