SaysWho? Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 51 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said: LOL @ McCarthy positioning himself as the adult in the room and not as a coward bitch that is doing this as a desperate attempt to cling to power. tbh, clinging to power would have been letting the government shut down to appease the hard right who threatened to kick him out. Passing this bill makes him vulnerable -- maybe -- to the faction lead by the child molestor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, SaysWho? said: tbh, clinging to power would have been letting the government shut down to appease the hard right who threatened to kick him out. Passing this bill makes him vulnerable -- maybe -- to the faction lead by the child molestor. I'm willing to be democrats have agreed to help keep him in power to completely neuter the Freedom Caucus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: tbh, clinging to power would have been letting the government shut down to appease the hard right who threatened to kick him out. Passing this bill makes him vulnerable -- maybe -- to the faction lead by the child molestor. It would not absolve the GOP of their BS, but it would be nice to see the GOP put the MAGAt stooges in their place.. starting with Gaetz Having Gaetz put McCarthy to a vote and failing would go a long way into cutting him a bit down to size 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 51 minutes ago, 5timechamp said: Having Gaetz put McCarthy to a vote and failing would go a long way into cutting him a bit down to size That only works if Democrats save him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Jwheel86 said: That only works if Democrats save him. Its on them to decide what levels of the crazy they want to deal with.. McCarthy is no saint (Biden impeachment inquiry shows he will ignore their own established rules), but it does extend the “Civil War” within the GOP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 The Agent of Chaos is about to file his "motion to vacate". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadatog Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 As much as I hate McCarthy I can't wait for the right's AoC to be shown to be as impotent as we all know he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Chadatog said: As much as I hate McCarthy I can't wait for the right's AoC to be shown to be as impotent as we all know he is. Aaand he didn't do it today because "everyone is not there currently". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Aaand he didn't do it today because "everyone is not there currently". And we all know that the more time goes on the more "there" they're likely to get. That's definitely usually probably sometimes sort of how that works. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 6 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Aaand he didn't do it today because "everyone is not there currently". Matt Gaetz files motion to oust Kevin McCarthy as House speaker https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/02/kevin-mccarthy-matt-gaetz/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 2, 2023 Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 Whatever. Jeffries should just tell the Democratic side to "vote their conscience" and leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 At this point what do dems have to gain by NOT voting for McCarthy and ending the charade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 8 hours ago, LazyPiranha said: At this point what do dems have to gain by NOT voting for McCarthy and ending the charade? If I were a house dem, I’d be concerned about who would replace McCarthy should he be ousted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: If I were a house dem, I’d be concerned about who would replace McCarthy should he be ousted. This, the Magats are so far into the cool aid they’ve grown gills, better the enemy who owes you something. I’m not looking forward to another vote a thon Fucking shit hole country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 These were actually posted by theoretically adult men who possess actual power and authority. McCarthy: Quote Bring it on. Gaetz: Quote Just did. Muskrat: Quote This exchange is amazing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 McCarthy has scheduled the vote for Gaetz's motion for this afternoon: House Speaker Kevin McCarthy will bring Gaetz motion to oust him to a vote Tuesday WWW.CNBC.COM House Speaker McCarthy is under fire from fellow Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz because of a bill passed with Democrats that avoided a government shutdown. Quote House Speaker Kevin McCarthy told his Republican caucus members he will bring a motion that seeks to oust him to a vote Tuesday afternoon, two GOP lawmakers told NBC News. Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., a longtime foe of McCarthy’s, on Monday night filed a motion to vacate targeting the speaker’s position. Gaetz claims that McCarthy no longer represents the interests of the GOP caucus after the Californian worked with Democrats to pass a stopgap funding bill to avoid a government shutdown over the weekend. Gaetz has been threatening McCarthy with a motion to vacate since he worked with Democrats on a debt ceiling deal in the spring. McCarthy told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” on Tuesday morning that Gaetz has “personal things in his life that he has challenges with.” GEE - I WONDER WHAT THAT COULD BE REFERRING TO?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 I say the dems should cut a deal to let him stay but only do it by the thinnest number of votes needed. McCarthy craves power so letting him feel the heat that he is only there because of the dems. Hopefully that can get a few more concessions out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 The worlds most stable democracy everyone. Im looking forward to waking up this afternoon to this played out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, chakoo said: I say the dems should cut a deal to let him stay but only do it by the thinnest number of votes needed. McCarthy craves power so letting him feel the heat that he is only there because of the dems. Hopefully that can get a few more concessions out of him. Let's see what the (for the time being) Speaker has to say about that: Quote "They haven't asked for anything. I'm not going to provide anything" -- McCarthy on CNBC on what Dems want in order to help him stay speaker Quote Asked McCarthy if he’s open to power-sharing deal w Ds: “That doesn’t work. I'm a conservative, I'm a Republican. I'm a conservative that want to get things done. I know we live in our governments designed to have compromise but look we are in the majority. You don't surrender” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 Jeffries has authorized the Democrats to vote to oust him if they're so inclined. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Imagine if Dems could both oust McCarthy and get Gaetz thrown out of Congress for paying underage girls for sex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Jeffries has authorized the Democrats to vote to oust him if they're so inclined. Good, it'd be complete political malpractice to vote to save McCarthy without extracting any concessions from him. 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Let's see what the (for the time being) Speaker has to say about that: Well I expected him to be dumb but didn’t think to add the rocks. May he fall flat on his face for it. I guess we’re going back to speaker voting gridlock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 what time is this shit show supposed to start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 1:30 Eastern is when the vote will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 Quote Centrist Dems in bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus, which just met, told Rs in the group they won't be saving McCarthy, per sources – McCarthy’s last potential line of defense and another sign that Democrats will be unified in their decision not to bail the speaker out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Speaker Beetlejuice here we cum come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 From an hour ago: Quote A variety of McCarthy rank and file allies are frantically reaching out to Dems right now to gauge what they want for a possible deal to save his speakership, per a House GOP lawmaker If they get a possible deal, though, “I don’t know if Kevin will take it,” said the Republican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 Official authorization from Jeffries: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 One had (infinitesimally small) hope that McCarthy might have a come to Jesus moment and bargain with even a handful of the most centrist and right leaning Dems but he can't even do that. So... get fucked I guess. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Bring a republican in congress has to be the cushiest job in the fucking universe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 A ringing endorsement if there ever was one: Quote Representative Kelly Armstrong, Republican of North Dakota, said as he was entering the chamber that if Speaker Kevin McCarthy is ousted, Armstrong believes more than 200 Republican members will fight for him to be reinstated. "Anybody else said they want the job?," he asked. "Why the hell would they?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 I do feel that being house speaker, even if for a limited time, has got to help your speaking engagement fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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