PaladinSolo Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 11 hours ago, stepee said: It’s kinda of weird how they make jokes about political opponents doing crimes as if they are above it WHILE doing crime. While even pointing out what they're doing at the present time is a crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Air_Delivery said: It is the conservative way of thinking. Trump and Hillary can do the exact same crime but because Trump is good, it must have been for a good reason. BBecause Hillary is bad she did it for a nefarious reason. I forget where I read this, whether it's on this forum or not, but somebody put it in perspective that makes so much sense and that I share with everyone: being a criminal to these folks is a state of character, not something you do. As in, being a criminal doesn't mean you commit crimes; being a criminal is akin to being a certain gender, race, creed, religion, etc. It's a class of people. Other people are criminals but nature, but they're not. So regardless as to what Trump does, he's not a criminal even though he habitually commits crimes -- fraud, rape, insurrections -- all his life. He pardoned cronies like Steve Bannon and Roger Stone, he commuted Rob Blagojevich's sentence, all criminals and terrible people. But Hillary is evil, so she's a "criminal" and lock her up. If they really were for law and order, they'd lock up the entire Trump Administration and set the prison on fire. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: I forget where I read this, whether it's on this forum or not, but somebody put it in perspective that makes so much sense and that I share with everyone: being a criminal to these folks is a state of character, not something you do. As in, being a criminal doesn't mean you commit crimes; being a criminal is akin to being a certain gender, race, creed, religion, etc. It's a class of people. Other people are criminals but nature, but they're not. So regardless as to what Trump does, he's not a criminal even though he habitually commits crimes -- fraud, rape, insurrections -- all his life. He pardoned cronies like Steve Bannon and Roger Stone, he commuted Rob Blagojevich's sentence, all criminals and terrible people. But Hillary is evil, so she's a "criminal" and lock her up. If they really were for law and order, they'd lock up the entire Trump Administration and set the prison on fire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 People close to the investigation say Mr. Giuliani agreed to give the interview in exchange for Judge Jeanine's half-finished box of Franzia. Giuliani Sat for Voluntary Interview in Jan. 6 Investigation - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM The onetime personal lawyer for Donald Trump answered questions from federal prosecutors about the former president’s efforts to remain in power after his 2020 election loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK Prosecutors could bring between 30 to 45 additional criminal charges against the former president in the coming weeks, The Independent has learned 30-45 additional criminal charges incoming from evidence that has not been publicly disclosed. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 And none of this is gonna end up mattering anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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silentbob Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 Trump Post Revealing Obama Address Was Shared By Jan 6 Fugitive Hours Before He Was Arrested With Guns Near Obama Home WWW.MEDIAITE.COM Jan. 6 fugitive Taylor Taranto shared a post from Trump revealing an address for former President Barack Obama hours before his arrest near the Obamas' home. It was a post he copied from a 2017 article, but why post it 6 years later on your own site now? Especially the part about where the Obama’s were living. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Jason said: Wasn't it found in a storage room or something where tourists store things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 “Put out to rest” is a lot like the phrase “put out to pasture” which means exactly what you think it means: Trump calls for "sick puppet" Jack Smith to be "put out to rest" WWW.NEWSWEEK.COM Trump was indicted on 37 felony counts stemming from one of two federal investigations overseen by Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 17 hours ago, Jason said: That fucking idiot is still the frontrunner for the GOP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 If you belong to a political party whose leader writes something like that, you can just shut the fuck about literally everything forever, because you are not a serious person and you literally believe in nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 First hearing on classified documents will be July 18 after special counsel accuses Trump co-defendant of seeking 'unnecessary' delay | CNN Politics WWW.CNN.COM The spat highlights how even the most incremental, procedural developments in the historic federal criminal case against Trump and Nauta could become mired in delay. Quote The first hearing before US District Judge Aileen Cannon in the federal criminal case against Donald Trump will be on July 18, according to a court order. The hearing will be about handling classified information in the case – the first of likely many proceedings on this topic – and may not be fully conducted in public because of the sensitivity around the issues. The date was set after a fight on Monday where special counsel Jack Smith suggested Trump and co-defendant Walt Nauta were trying to create an “unnecessary” delay by moving it from this coming Friday. The spat highlights how even the most incremental, procedural developments in the historic federal criminal case against Trump and Nauta could become mired in disputes – especially when it comes to scheduling as prosecutors want to go to trial in less than six months and Trump lawyers have been adept at delaying other legal fights he’s facing. In Nauta’s filing requesting the delay, the Trump aide cited a bench trial that his main lawyer, Stanley Woodward, has in Washington, DC, this week as the reason for proposing a delay. Smith fired back in his filing that Nauta has provided no reason why his Florida-based lawyer, Sasha Dadan, couldn’t handle the hearing. “An indefinite continuance is unnecessary, will inject additional delay in this case, and is contrary to the public interest,” the Smith team said in their filing. In a new filing later Monday, Trump’s defense team and the special counsel’s office said July 18 would be an agreeable date for the first appearance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: First hearing on classified documents will be July 18 after special counsel accuses Trump co-defendant of seeking 'unnecessary' delay | CNN Politics WWW.CNN.COM The spat highlights how even the most incremental, procedural developments in the historic federal criminal case against Trump and Nauta could become mired in delay. I can't wait for nothing to happen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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osxmatt Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Trump Indicted Over Efforts to Overturn 2020 Election: Live Updates - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM The special counsel, Jack Smith, has led a wide-ranging Justice Department examination of the efforts by former President Donald J. Trump and his allies to subvert the... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Just now, osxmatt said: Trump Indicted Over Efforts to Overturn 2020 Election: Live Updates - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM The special counsel, Jack Smith, has led a wide-ranging Justice Department examination of the efforts by former President Donald J. Trump and his allies to subvert the... Nice. Any non-paywall sources yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 its sure gonna be funny how nothing will happen for basically the same charges all the chuds have been going to jail over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Quote The former president faces the charges: Conspiracy to Defraud the United States Conspiracy to Obstruct an Official Proceeding Obstruction of and Attempt to Obstruct an Official Proceeding Conspiracy Against Rights The indictment lists six co-conspirators but does not name them: four attorneys, a justice department official and a political consultant. Quote Donald Trump has been summoned to appear before a federal magistrate judge on Thursday in Washington, after the former president was charged by the justice department for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. Trump is expected to be arraigned at the DC district court before magistrate judge Moxila A Upadhyaya. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: ...is...is this actually the moment?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 From what I can discern, the six unindicted co-conspirators are: Co-Conspirator 1 - Rudy Giuliani Co-Conspriator 2 - John Eastman Co-Conspirator 3 - Sidney Powell Co-Conspirator 4 - Jeff Clark Co-Conspirator 5 - Ken Chesebro Co-Conspirator 6 - probably Boris Epshteyn Because they were not indicted, it's not beyond reason that some (or all) flipped. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Still want to see enablers behind bars. Even if it's just short sentences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 rudy was probably the easiest flip in the history of flippers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Honestly I’m shocked that other senators and others who also conspired with trump aren’t named tbh meadows totally flipped though lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Quote The Trump case has been assigned to U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan. Chutkan, an Obama appointee, is the only federal judge in Washington, D.C. who has sentenced Jan. 6 defendants to sentences longer than the government had requested. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: From what I can discern, the six unindicted co-conspirators are: Co-Conspirator 1 - Rudy Giuliani Co-Conspriator 2 - John Eastman Co-Conspirator 3 - Sidney Powell Co-Conspirator 4 - Jeff Clark Co-Conspirator 5 - Ken Chesebro Co-Conspirator 6 - probably Boris Epshteyn Because they were not indicted, it's not beyond reason that some (or all) flipped. I knew Giuliani had flipped when he copped to lying in the Georgia election workers Civil case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 42 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Nice. Any non-paywall sources yet? Grand jury accuses Trump of conspiring to defraud the United States WWW.NBCNEWS.COM The former president revealed last month that he received a target letter from special counsel Jack Smith. The full 45 pg indictment is in the body of the article as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 I'm very pleased to see Eastman listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Descriptions of the co-conspirators from the indictment: Co-Conspirator 1, an attorney who was willing to spread knowingly false claims and pursue strategies that the Defendant's 2020 re-election campaign attorneys would not Co-Conspirator 2, an attorney who devised and attempted to implement a strategy to leverage the Vice President’s ceremonial role overseeing certification proceeding to obstruct the certification of the presidential election. Co-Conspirator 3, an attorney whose unfounded claims of election fraud the Defendant privately acknowledged to others sounded "crazy." Nonetheless, the Defendant embraced and publicly amplified Co-Conspirator 3's disinformation. Co-Conspirator 4, a Justice Department official who worked on civil matters and who, with the Defendant, attempted to use the Justice Department to open sham election crime investigations and influence state legislatures with knowingly false claims of election fraud. Co-Conspirator 5, an attorney who assisted in devising and attempting to implement a plan to submit fraudulent slates of presidential electors to obstruct the certification proceeding. Co-Conspirator 6, a political consultant who helped implement a plan to submit fraudulent slates of presidential electors to obstruct the certification proceeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Massdriver said: I'm very pleased to see Eastman listed. Technically, he's not actually listed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Jack Smith says his team is not done: "Our investigation of other individuals continues." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 The more co-conspirators that flip, the harder it is for Trump to say that it was a witch hunt. I mean, yeah he's still going to say that, but in the minds of the general public, everyone is going to point at him because even his CHUD lawyers flipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 I still can't rest easy about 2024 unless this fucking asshole is behind bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: I still can't rest easy about 2024 unless this fucking asshole is behind bars. You shouldn't "rest easy" about 2024 even if that did happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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