Guest Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Southwest cancels more than 2,800 flights in a 'full-blown meltdown' WWW.NPR.ORG The disruptions add to chaos that has left people stranded at airports across the country, many of them with little idea of when they can get home or where their bags are. Quote Southwest canceled more than 2,870 flights by 8:25 p.m. ET Monday — at least 70% of its schedule for the day, according to flight tracker FlightAware. The disruptions add to chaos that has left people stranded at airports across the country, many of them with little idea of when they can get home or where their bags are. The number of canceled flights for Southwest is more than 10 times higher than for Delta, which had the second-most cancelations by a U.S. airline with 265 flights called off. Other airlines have also ordered large-scale cancellations in the past week The closest airport to me is basically a Southwest hub, so most of the folks I know tend to fly SWA. Noticed a few social media posts complaining about their flights being cancelled and had no idea it was this bad 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 I have a few friends who work at Southwest HQ. They’ve been quiet all weekend long 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Going for Osama Bin Laden’s flight cancellation record 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Yeah, it's bad out there. Started last week with the Pacific Northwest, Vancouver and Seattle were hit hard. Now the cold front is affecting further east. I know a few people who have been stranded away from home for over a week, now. Horrible situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Saw someone on redacted saying they rented a car and the car rental place sold out all their cars by 11 am yesterday. Obviously this whole fiasco is a ploy by big auto to get people driving more @b_m_b_m_b_m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Delta sold my brothers connecting flight seats because they thought his plane wasn't going to make it in time, it did, lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Delta sold my brothers connecting flight seats because they thought his plane wasn't going to make it in time, it did, lol. Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: Saw someone on redacted saying they rented a car and the car rental place sold out all their cars by 11 am yesterday. Obviously this whole fiasco is a ploy by big auto to get people driving more @b_m_b_m_b_m People would mode shift to HSR if it were available I tells ya 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 I'm flying Thursday... hopefully this shit is sorted out by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Seeing people with cancellations by SWA for later on this week, already, as they try and get people home from earlier cancelled flights. Disaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 my brother and his family were supposed to fly southwest to texas this week and their’s got canceled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Just saw a report that out of the Houston hub for SWA they can’t rebook a cancelled flight from today onward until January 1st because they are so backed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Southwest cancels 5,400 flights in less than 48 hours in a 'full-blown meltdown' WWW.NPR.ORG The disruptions add to chaos that has left people stranded at airports across the country, many of them with little idea of when they can get home or where their bags are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Federal DOT has been tweeting their displeasure at SWA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 I read on Reddit (take with a grain of salt) that Southwest entire internal network of apps is down so they have no way of scheduling and coordinating pilots and staff right now. They are having to resort to phone numbers on file to contact employees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 Glad we decided to road trip it for the holidays instead of flying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 56 minutes ago, osxmatt said: I read on Reddit (take with a grain of salt) that Southwest entire internal network of apps is down so they have no way of scheduling and coordinating pilots and staff right now. They are having to resort to phone numbers on file to contact employees. I asked my brother about it, his previous firm did a ton of work on this stuff as SWA revamped their entire software platform from booking to scheduling to bag handling. And I know I’ve told this story before, but the entire reason for SWA’s “bags fly free” thing was their systems literally could not handle charging for bags at the terminal. That was the only reason they didn’t charge for bags, and so they turned it into marketing 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 While the apparent internal systems collapse within SWA has undoubtedly been the main cause of the situation, the airline's "point-to-point" system is also a contributing factor as they simply don't have the same amount of reserve crews available at any location relative to those available for the "hub and spoke" model used by other carriers and therefore have much less built-in slack/flexibility to account for these types of events. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I am so glad I live within driving distance for my family lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I can't wait to be far enough away from my family again that I simply don't have to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 On 12/26/2022 at 11:16 PM, GeneticBlueprint said: Going for Osama Bin Laden’s flight cancellation record You naughty little minx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Hanging out with a friend last night who works for Southwest and just got back to LA the night before after being stranded in Oakland for three days. I have no idea how Southwest recovers from this... He was being paid triple time for 72 hours because he was on the clock sitting in an airport break room. HUNDREDS of Southwest Employees were in the same situation. Between this and all of the reimbursements and law suits this airline is going to face I don't know how this airline survives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Hanging out with a friend last night who works for Southwest and just got back to LA the night before after being stranded in Oakland for three days. I have no idea how Southwest recovers from this... He was being paid triple time for 72 hours because he was on the clock sitting in an airport break room. HUNDREDS of Southwest Employees were in the same situation. Between this and all of the reimbursements and law suits this airline is going to face I don't know how this airline survives. Eh. Their last financial statement listed $10B in cash as of the end of September. They'll be fine. I don't envy the people that will have to clean up this mess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 hour ago, TwinIon said: Eh. Their last financial statement listed $10B in cash as of the end of September. They'll be fine. I don't envy the people that will have to clean up this mess. You may be right but ther brand is tainted... some of these stories from stranded passengers are heartbreaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Quite likely they have insurance that will cover much of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 3 hours ago, sblfilms said: Quite likely they have insurance that will cover much of this Which likely means that insurance rates for this sort of protection are going to skyrocket (like all insurance these days) and will be the thing that forces them to update their software and practices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 This is why we need trains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: This is why we need trains. Always with the god damn hippy socialism!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Southwest will be fine so long as flights remain full /oversold and Ryanair exists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 56 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: This is why we need trains. No way in hell a train could've gotten us from Vegas to central Washington in less time than it took to drive, and certainly many times slower than flying, even with a layover at SeaTac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 20 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: No way in hell a train could've gotten us from Vegas to central Washington in less time than it took to drive, and certainly many times slower than flying, even with a layover at SeaTac. Sure. But I shouldn't need to fly from Nashville to Atlanta ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: No way in hell a train could've gotten us from Vegas to central Washington in less time than it took to drive, and certainly many times slower than flying, even with a layover at SeaTac. And? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 You can't take a train from Maine to Hawaii so trains shouldn't exist. 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: You can't take a train from Maine to Hawaii so trains shouldn't exist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 I wish we had an even moderately fast train between Houston, Dallas, and Austin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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