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Also that it was deliberately designed to be as addictive as cigarettes

 

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Facebook's former director of monetization Tim Kendall says he had a role in making Facebook as addictive as cigarettes — and worries that Facebook could be just as damaging to its users.

In a testimony before the House Consumer Protection and Commerce Subcommittee published Thursday, Kendall accused Facebook of building algorithms that have facilitated the spread of misinformation, encouraged divisive rhetoric, and laid the groundwork for a "mental health crisis."

"We took a page from Big Tobacco's playbook, working to make our offering addictive at the outset," Kendall said in prepared remarks submitted to lawmakers ahead of Thursday's hearing. "The social media services that I and others have built over the past 15 years have served to tear people apart with alarming speed and intensity. At the very least, we have eroded our collective understanding — at worst, I fear we are pushing ourselves to the brink of a civil war."

 

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During my time on Facebook, I could watch it turn people into supersized, insane caricatures of themselves. I can only imagine how severe this influence actually is if even I, as a common user could clearly see it. I also fully blame social media for my mother's nonsensical, harebrained ideology which has become a problem to the point where we don't really speak much anymore. 

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I mean, yeah... I spend about 15 minutes a week on facebook, and almost all of that is reading what all of my shit brained right winger "friends" and family are posting and shaking my head.

 

After 5 minutes I'm generally ready to kill people, so yeah.

 

The next question is this... would a civil war be so bad? Do we even need to fight? Let's just let em go. Split the nation in two and let all the Trump fuckfaced fucker faces go start their own shithole country. Fuck em.

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29 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

During my time on Facebook, I could watch it turn people into supersized, insane caricatures of themselves. I can only imagine how severe this influence actually is if even I, as a common user could clearly see it. I also fully blame social media for my mother's nonsensical, harebrained ideology which has become a problem to the point where we don't really speak much anymore. 

 

Apparently I'm lucky because like 99.5% of Facebook feed is decidedly not crazy shit.

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5 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

Apparently I'm lucky because like 99.5% of Facebook feed is decidedly not crazy shit.

It wasn't even just political shit or anything for me. It just turned out that apparently most people I know, and I'm sure me to others as well, had interests, weird character traits, family drama etc. I just never wanted nor needed to know about. Like shit man, I like hanging out at the bar once in a while and you're a good mechanic but I would've preferred to not know about you not paying child support and making a public show out of it.

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9 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

It wasn't even just political shit or anything for me. It just turned out that apparently most people I know, and I'm sure me to others as well, had interests, weird character traits, family drama etc. I just never wanted nor needed to know about. Like shit man, I like hanging out at the bar once in a while and you're a good mechanic but I would've preferred to not know about you not paying child support and making a public show out of it.

 

I don't really get any of that either. :shrug:

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56 minutes ago, osxmatt said:

Facebook is a right-wing hellhole.

 

I feel much better having deleted it. If only I could delete the entire site too.


True story: I got banned for three days for referring to the Trumps as “white trash”, but when I reported a white woman for having multiple posts proclaiming “WHITE POWER”, I was told that THAT didn’t violate TOS.

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13 minutes ago, Joestradamus said:

 

It truly is an awkward feeling right now. Incredibly cringe when employees circle jerk the guy and all their top execs. I don't look at anything anymore except for my tasks at hand now.

 

That happens alot at my job too. Well more the circlejerk is for the company as a whole.

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39 minutes ago, MarSolo said:


True story: I got banned for three days for referring to the Trumps as “white trash”, but when I reported a white woman for having multiple posts proclaiming “WHITE POWER”, I was told that THAT didn’t violate TOS.

 

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12 hours ago, CayceG said:

Facebook and Mark Zuckerburg bear a large amount of responsibility for the current state of this country. 

So do the execs at Twitter and Google... I'd throw MS in there too for failing to police Xbox live adequately in the early days. A whole generation was raised in the toxic environment of online gaming where they were given license to behave as awfully as they could imagine with little to no consequences.

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32 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

So do the execs at Twitter and Google... I'd throw MS in there too for failing to police Xbox live adequately in the early days. A whole generation was raised in the toxic environment of online gaming where they were given license to behave as awfully as they could imagine with little to no consequences.

 

Not that IGN ever had anywhere remotely near the same reach as any of these but even the IGN boards, despite how ban-happy the mods were, cultivated an edgelord culture. I know how to deal with trolling and flaming literally because of using the IGN boards as a teenager. 

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I keep an account strictly for family and work... I belong to several groups that I've gotten actual jobs from. My last actual post on facebook was a call to boycott facebook. It really IS bad especially for boomers. Some of the stuff my mom has gotten off of there staggers the mind.

 

5 hours ago, Jason said:

 

Not that IGN ever had anywhere remotely near the same reach as any of these but even the IGN boards, despite how ban-happy the mods were, cultivated an edgelord culture. I know how to deal with trolling and flaming literally because of using the IGN boards as a teenager. 

 

What made Xbox worse for me was that it was a paid service with little to no concern for policing its users. I have never been called the N-word more in my LIFE than I did on Xbox live. Its why I don't use the mic to this day with strangers.

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5 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said:

I keep an account strictly for family and work... I belong to several groups that I've gotten actual jobs from. My last actual post on facebook was a call to boycott facebook. It really IS bad especially for boomers. Some of the stuff my mom has gotten off of there staggers the mind.

 

 

What made Xbox worse for me was that it was a paid service with little to no concern for policing its users. I have never been called the N-word more in my LIFE than I did on Xbox live. Its why I don't use the mic to this day with strangers.

Showing my age here but growing up in the arcades , playing fighting games locally , shit talking was just part of the scene. It was friendly banter to throw each other off the game. Calling someone the N word or a F@g would have got you an ass whipping by a half dozen or more folks. I dont understand it.

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1 hour ago, SimpleG said:

Showing my age here but growing up in the arcades , playing fighting games locally , shit talking was just part of the scene. It was friendly banter to throw each other off the game. Calling someone the N word or a F@g would have got you an ass whipping by a half dozen or more folks. I dont understand it.

That's the thing... arcade play and couch competition like other face to face interactions had an inherent code of conduct. There were rules you adhered to because if you didn't, there were consequences and either you would get your ass kicked and couldn't go back to that arcade or you were barred from a friend's house for being an asshole or troublemaker. The internet gave folks anonymity and no repercussions for their behavior.

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I miss gaming with my friends. My last great memories of us gaming together was shit talking each other while playing WWF No Mercy. And then a brief resurrection when Here Comes the Pain came out.

 

Other than that? It was the occasional thing of my one friend trying to get me into Everquest.

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Too many people I know will either use Messenger or the events page as the primary way to organize something for me to complete deactivate my account. But I'm trying to make a point to just log in once a day and check my notifications for only those things, so hopefully I'm at least affecting my numbers for how much I'm a "highly engaged user" or whatever.

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