General Gaming Final Fantasy XVI – Information Thread, update: PC version in "final stages of optimization', pre-release demo planned

[Slug]

Berserker Ring + Genji Gloves + Ring of Timely Focus = extreme easy mode.  

[Mr.Vic20]

OK, game cleared. I maintain that this was not a good RPG, but I will acknolwedge that it was a good (but for me not great) game. 

[best3444]

10 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said:

OK, game cleared. I maintain that this was not a good RPG, but I will acknolwedge that it was a good (but for me not great) game. 

 

Yea, this is DEFINITELY not an RPG and it absolutely shouldn't be labeled as such either. The combat is starting to lose its luster for me but the story and characters are what I truly love. 

 

I think FF17 needs to go back to some of the basics in the FF series because this is way too much of a departure. 

[Bacon]

16 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said:

OK, game cleared. I maintain that this was not a good RPG, but I will acknolwedge that it was a good (but for me not great) game. 

It wasn't bad, but only good enough to beat. I won't replay it unless there is DLC that changes some aspects of the ending.

[eventide11]

Well I'm still liking it a lot but yeah, not an RPG and not really a true numbered FF sequel compared to other games in the series. I do like some things it does A LOT but like @best3444 I wish it would continue (and improve on) gameplay from the FF series. IE hybrid turn based battles, more party control, an open world-sand box type map, more non static towns that gradually offer more items, weapons, spells etc.

 

But I needed a break from these MASSIVE games that have been released lately so this has been a perfect escape from those. Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing I guess 

[TheLeon]

After playing the demo and following this thread for a while, I still can’t decide if I’ll like this game. Anyone wanna buy it for me? I’ve seen that just asking works sometimes…

[best3444]

I'm still loving the characters and story but I've only been playing for like an hour a day so I don't think I'll beat this anytime soon. I still really love the game overall but the combat is really falling a bit flat. There is no challenge. I do like easier games but this is litteraly closing your eyes and mashing buttons.  😆 

[eventide11]

1 hour ago, best3444 said:

I'm still loving the characters and story but I've only been playing for like an hour a day so I don't think I'll beat this anytime soon. I still really love the game overall but the combat is really falling a bit flat. There is no challenge. I do like easier games but this is litteraly closing your eyes and mashing buttons.  😆 

I've not died one time in probably 40+ hrs. Only time I came close to dying was when I was talking to my wife and fighting an S rank hunt and not really concentrating. But even then I still never died, only got close because i was adulting 

[best3444]

17 minutes ago, eventide11 said:

I've not died one time in probably 40+ hrs. Only time I came close to dying was when I was talking to my wife and fighting an S rank hunt and not really concentrating. But even then I still never died, only got close because i was adulting 

 

Yea and my issue is I'm constantly comparing the combat to Ragnarok while I'm playing which doesn't help.

 

This game just reminds me how stunning the new GOW games are. From a combat point of view but also the leveling up and RPG elements all together. 

[eventide11]

2 minutes ago, best3444 said:

 

Yea and my issue is I'm constantly comparing the combat to Ragnarok while I'm playing which doesn't help.

 

This game just reminds me how stunning the new GOW games are. From a combat point of view but also the leveling up and RPG elements all together. 

I never finished Ragnarok. I need to fr. I watched my son play a good bit and was impressed at what I saw but I really should experience it for myself 

[Mercury33]

3 hours ago, best3444 said:

 

Yea and my issue is I'm constantly comparing the combat to Ragnarok while I'm playing which doesn't help.

 

This game just reminds me how stunning the new GOW games are. From a combat point of view but also the leveling up and RPG elements all together. 

Yeah but in this game you aren’t forced to play as Clive’s shitty, boring, awful son multiple times. 

[best3444]

10 hours ago, Mercury33 said:

Yeah but in this game you aren’t forced to play as Clive’s shitty, boring, awful son multiple times. 

 

Thank God! 

[Bacon]

Not having party members running alongside you in Tales of Arise makes me appreciate what FF16 did. I mean, your party members in ToA are actual party members and characters, but it would also be nice to have them out in the field too.

[Biggie]

Another one bites the dust. 
 

Spoiler

Bahamut is dead

 

[BloodyHell]

On 7/8/2023 at 6:41 PM, eventide11 said:

Well I'm still liking it a lot but yeah, not an RPG and not really a true numbered FF sequel compared to other games in the series. I do like some things it does A LOT but like @best3444 I wish it would continue (and improve on) gameplay from the FF series. IE hybrid turn based battles, more party control, an open world-sand box type map, more non static towns that gradually offer more items, weapons, spells etc.

 

But I needed a break from these MASSIVE games that have been released lately so this has been a perfect escape from those. Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing I guess 

I mean, it’s absolutely a true numbered sequel. This is the same nonsense people said about XI and XIV not being numbered FF, when they very clearly are. 
 

it may not be traditional, but it’s absolutely a numbered FF. 

[eventide11]

1 hour ago, BloodyHell said:

I mean, it’s absolutely a true numbered sequel. This is the same nonsense people said about XI and XIV not being numbered FF, when they very clearly are. 
 

it may not be traditional, but it’s absolutely a numbered FF. 

It is in the sense of it follows the others but.. Eh. Whatever. Just stopped following the 'numbers' I like after FF10

[Remarkableriots]

Just weeks after Final Fantasy 16, Square Enix patents a way to make NPCs smarter by letting players "coach" them | GamesRadar+

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The Final Fantasy developer wants players to train NPCs to "overcome adversities"

 

[atom631]

if anyone who finished the game on PS5 and has a hard copy they want to sell, LMK! 

[Xbob42]

 

[Biggie]

This will be one of the few and far between games I actually play start to finish. I’m enjoying it so much. 

[best3444]

9 minutes ago, Biggie said:

This will be one of the few and far between games I actually play start to finish. I’m enjoying it so much. 

 

Yea, you rarely beat games. Testament in how good a game is really. 

[johnny]

is this like ff7 remake? i loved that game but never played other final fantasy 

[Spork3245]

25 minutes ago, johnny said:

is this like ff7 remake? i loved that game but never played other final fantasy 

There’s a free demo you can download. It’s similar but also leans more towards an action game over an RPG

[Biggie]

3 hours ago, johnny said:

is this like ff7 remake? i loved that game but never played other final fantasy 

No it’s not like FF7 Remake. The combat is very different. Try the demo 

[Remarkableriots]

Final Fantasy Creators Reveal The True Origins of the Franchise's Name | Den of Geek

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Remember when Squaresoft was about to declare bankruptcy, so the company bet it all on the appropriately named Final Fantasy? It turns out that's not exactly what happened.

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This decision resulted in Square coming up with the abbreviation “FF,” but they didn’t actually know what those letters would stand for. The company went through several ideas, one of which was apparently Fighting Fantasy. However, because of conflicting trademarks, they ultimately decided to settle on the name Final Fantasy as a “last resort.”

 

According to the students, their primary school English teacher decided to use the title “Final Fantasy” for a lesson. This teacher wrote the game’s name on a whiteboard, followed by what they claimed was the translation, “Kyukyoku no gensou” (“The ultimate illusion”) in Japanese..

 

Sakaguchi decided that even though the teacher wasn’t right when they provided the lesson, they sure would be right moving forward. As soon as Sakaguchi received the postcard, he proclaimed, “We are using this!” and decided “Final Fantasy” would mean “The Ultimate Illusion” from then on. 

[eventide11]

Ok, this series of main and side quests are kinda lame. Hoping to get past these soon. I think I'm ready to be done with this game even though I do really like it. NOTHING has been challenging not even S ranked hunts. If there's one thing I like in games it's a challenge and if this one didn't have such a good story I wouldn't want to finish it 

[Biggie]

18 minutes ago, eventide11 said:

Ok, this series of main and side quests are kinda lame. Hoping to get past these soon. I think I'm ready to be done with this game even though I do really like it. NOTHING has been challenging not even S ranked hunts. If there's one thing I like in games it's a challenge and if this one didn't have such a good story I wouldn't want to finish it 

I’m going to finish it for sure simply for the story but I kinda agree. The formula of main quest followed by numerous side quests isn’t creating the excitement it did in the beginning. Also does anyone ride their Chocobo? I prefer simply running around with Clive on foot. 

[eventide11]

53 minutes ago, Biggie said:

I’m going to finish it for sure simply for the story but I kinda agree. The formula of main quest followed by numerous side quests isn’t creating the excitement it did in the beginning. Also does anyone ride their Chocobo? I prefer simply running around with Clive on foot. 

I do if the quest 500 yds or more. Otherwise I hoof it.

 

Does this game even know why it's copying game of thrones? Kinda wish FF would just stay in it's lane

[legend]

Credits roll. Overall I enjoyed it! Not perfect but I've already commented on why. Ending got me in the feels in a few places and even though it's completely absurd I really enjoyed those final QTEs on the final boss  

[eventide11]

23 minutes ago, legend said:

Credits roll. Overall I enjoyed it! Not perfect but I've already commented on why. Ending got me in the feels in a few places and even though it's completely absurd I really enjoyed those final QTEs on the final boss  

Man I hope I do. Started out so strong so I hope it finishes that way 

[Xbob42]

On 7/13/2023 at 3:58 PM, Remarkableriots said:

Final Fantasy Creators Reveal The True Origins of the Franchise's Name | Den of Geek

WWW.DENOFGEEK.COM

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Remember when Squaresoft was about to declare bankruptcy, so the company bet it all on the appropriately named Final Fantasy? It turns out that's not exactly what happened.

How was the teacher wrong?

 

Ultimate is synonymous with final.

Fantasy is maybe not quite as directly synonymous with illusion (maybe delusion would've been better) but I have no issue with it!

[Biggie]

Don’t know how accurate it is but PS5 Home Screen says 70% complete and 51 hours so far. 

[Bacon]

Pretty crazy that the bad guy wasn't actually an

Spoiler

alien.

 

I thought for sure it was going to go that route again.

[Mercury33]

On 7/14/2023 at 7:59 PM, Biggie said:

I’m going to finish it for sure simply for the story but I kinda agree. The formula of main quest followed by numerous side quests isn’t creating the excitement it did in the beginning. Also does anyone ride their Chocobo? I prefer simply running around with Clive on foot. 

I ride mine all the time. I use him to ride past any random mobs I don’t want to deal with. I also enjoy jumping off ledges and floating down way more than I probably should haha. 

[Xbob42]

22 hours ago, Bacon said:

Pretty crazy that the bad guy wasn't actually an

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alien.

 

I thought for sure it was going to go that route again.

Except it was.