Ominous Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 36 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: I don't know why, but I feel more nervous (in the long term) if nothing really happens. Nothing will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 I hope Trump goes full Alex Jones+ levels of stupid and forces the judge to put him on blast for his upcoming idiocy on social media… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 4 hours ago, 5timechamp said: I hope Trump goes full Alex Jones+ levels of stupid and forces the judge to put him on blast for his upcoming idiocy on social media… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 If Trump ever takes the stand he’s going to perjure himself immediately. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Will this be televised live? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Will this be televised live? 11 hours ago, Jason said: some hot bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Only says news outlets, so maybe we'll get some TikTok coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 But won't he and his drones be making some big protest march or whatever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: But won't he and his drones be making some big protest march or whatever? Everything I am hearing is that people aren't taking Trump up on the offer. The protests that are happening seem to be somewhere between small and non-existent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Only says news outlets, so maybe we'll get some TikTok coverage. That girl who sold her dirty bathwater to thousands of simps will livestream the arraignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 43 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: Everything I am hearing is that people aren't taking Trump up on the offer. The protests that are happening seem to be somewhere between small and non-existent. Wait is that blowback for not like pardoning Jan 6th? I feel that could be blowback from ultimately leaving them up to dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 lemme just savor this moment 3 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Well he did say Tuesday, he just got the specific Tuesday wrong. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Brick said: Well he did say Tuesday, he just got the specific Tuesday wrong. Nostradotardus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 I've been very dubious that this day would ever come, and even though it's thanks to the least impactful of the various Trump crimes, I'm still happy to see it actually happen. This has me hoping that maybe we'll see indictments on Georgia and the Mar-a-Lago documents, but I won't get my hopes up too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, TwinIon said: I've been very dubious that this day would ever come, and even though it's thanks to the least impactful of the various Trump crimes, I'm still happy to see it actually happen. This has me hoping that maybe we'll see indictments on Georgia and the Mar-a-Lago documents, but I won't get my hopes up too much. Fulton county is a slaaaaam dunk for indictment. Will eat my shoe if there isn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Fulton county is a slaaaaam dunk for indictment. Will eat my shoe if there isn’t. The best part about the Georgia case? Governor Kemp has no authority to pardon Trump before or after conviction. If indicted, the only way to be pardoned in Georgia is for Trump to go to prison first and petition the Parole and Pardon Board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 With literally nothing to do at work I'm sitting around watching this all day. Thankfully we have free popcorn in the office. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Jennifer Lien is cast as Kes in Star Trek Voyager She starts having mental health issues and is fired, leading to Jeri Ryan being hired to play 7 of 9 Jeri Ryan's higher profile leads to people finding out her husband, Illinois Senate hopeful Jack Ryan, is an abusive piece of shit and they get divorced, tanking his campaign His opponent, Barack Obama, wins the seat In 2011, Barack Obama roasts Donald Trump at the Correspondent's dinner, leading him to decide to run for president Which means if Captain Janeway had followed the Prime Directive, we'd have never had Obama or Trump as presidents 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Jennifer Lien is cast as Kes in Star Trek Voyager She starts having mental health issues and is fired, leading to Jeri Ryan being hired to play 7 of 9 Jeri Ryan's higher profile leads to people finding out her husband, Illinois Senate hopeful Jack Ryan, is an abusive piece of shit and they get divorced, tanking his campaign His opponent, Barack Obama, wins the seat In 2011, Barack Obama roasts Donald Trump at the Correspondent's dinner, leading him to decide to run for president Which means if Captain Janeway had followed the Prime Directive, we'd have never had Obama or Trump as presidents Really torn over whether four years of president Trump is worse than 4 extra years of Kes on Voyager.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: Really torn over whether four years of president Trump is worse than 4 extra years of Kes on Voyager.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Don Jr. just posted a picture of the Judge's daughter. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Jwheel86 said: Don Jr. just posted a picture of the Judge's daughter. lock him up 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Don Jr. just posted a picture of the Judge's daughter. That’s definitely a threat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 From what I’m reading they’re all (34 counts or so) class E felonies which are the lowest level felony in NY but have 4 year prison sentences falsification of business records all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Don Jr. just posted a picture of the Judge's daughter. 18 minutes ago, Jason said: lock him up 14 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: That’s definitely a threat It's 12-D chess. Because the judge will now be mad at the Trumps, which means he can't be impartial, and therefor Trump must be released. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 https://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-Indictment.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: https://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-Indictment.pdf why does it start with the second count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Statement of facts: https://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-SOF.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Jason said: why does it start with the second count It doesn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: From what I’m reading they’re all (34 counts or so) class E felonies which are the lowest level felony in NY but have 4 year prison sentences falsification of business records all 12 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Statement of facts: https://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-SOF.pdf And those felonies would normally be misdemeanors, but the kicker in New York law is that if they are done in the furtherance of a separate crime it upgrades them to a felony. The question has been what Bragg thought he could prove those other crimes were....the statement of fact makes it seem like the answer is "lots" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: And those felonies would normally be misdemeanors, but the kicker in New York law is that if they are done in the furtherance of a separate crime it upgrades them to a felony. The question has been what Bragg thought he could prove those other crimes were....the statement of fact makes it seem like the answer is "lots" Yeah it seems pretty straightforward: A) Michael cohen plead guilty and did time for actions which are and were federal crimes. B) He did these actions under the direction of and for trump. C) Here’s the invoices where trump paid cohen for these actions. D) trump and his org falsified the business records as services that didn’t happen (legal services under retainer during 2017) in order to facilitate actions under B if it were just B, C, and D, the crime, D, would be a misdemeanor and would not see the inside of a courtroom tbh. But because of A, it is now a felony. lmao 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 Shit I bet most of what the trump org did on a day to day basis was B, C, and D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 from Reddit: He is charged with 34 counts of FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS IN THE FIRST DEGREE, P.L. §175.10. That statute reads: § 175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree. A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof. Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony. Source: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/175.10 The statute of limitations on a class E felony is 5 years per Crim. Proc. 30.10(b): (b) A prosecution for any other felony must be commenced within five years after the commission thereof Source: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/CPL/30.10 Here is some info on sentencing for a class E felony: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/70.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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