Bloodporne Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I started bushwhacker hunting yesterday but roaming around off-road and searching for bonfires in the night. I ambushed three ambusher camps and brutally annihilated them. One with a stick of dynamite and executions, one starting with a throwing knife stealth kill and the other I scope-sniped from a vantage point until the last two came after me and I Dead Eye blasted their heads and limbs off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Not to sound morbid but the first time I blew a guy’s head completely off with the double barrel shot gun in dead eye ? i didn’t even know you could do that haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyD Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 7 hours ago, Bloodporne said: I haven't fucking played RDR1 nor GTAV so my last Rockstar experience was GTAIV for maybe 10 hours total a decade ago. Sue me for expecting some progress in story mission design since then. I don't even get your point. Are you saying if I had played all others then I wouldn't be allowed to criticize this aspect because expecting progress in their core design is stupid? I haven't, so by your rules I may and therefore you can drop it because you have closure now. And despite all my criticisms I just sunk another 4 hours into all sorts of cool side content that I enjoy greatly right now. No point in getting worked up...we're talking about a game. Have you played other rockstar games? Because you just described GTA as well with differences really down to mode of transportation and setting Not sure what people were expecting if they played previous Rockstar games That was my comment - if you mentioned that you hadn't really played the games prior to this, then that would have been the end of it. Otherwise, the point I was making is that you made the statement that described Rockstar games exactly as they are as if it's something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyD Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Bloodporne said: So I'd like to replay a mission from my Progress chapter list but I'm worried it's going to somehow fuck up my current game progress since it's two missions back by now. How exactly does the game handle replaying missions? When you're finished, does it toss you back where you were? Does the game expect you to do story missions in a certain order by the way? I ignored Hosea in Chapter 2 until the bitter end because...I don't know...and the hunting/buy a horse mission seems to have simply erased my horse which was at a higher level than what I ended up having to buy? Is there some in-game logic I'm not following here and the previous horse is simply somewhere else? The first cutscene started where you 'learn' how to saddle and unsaddle a horse and boom, my horse was replaced with some animal I had never seen. You get no bonuses for replaying a mission so I would leave it till later to get the trophy if you end up wanting that. Otherwise, it's pretty difficult to get gold in your first play through since you don't know the objectives unless you look it up Otherwise, what you do in a replay mission doesn't carry over to the main. I believe you go back to your last save after you're done with replaying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, AndyD said: Otherwise, what you do in a replay mission doesn't carry over to the main. I believe you go back to your last save after you're done with replaying. This is how it’s worked for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, AndyD said: You get no bonuses for replaying a mission so I would leave it till later to get the trophy if you end up wanting that. Otherwise, it's pretty difficult to get gold in your first play through since you don't know the objectives unless you look it up Otherwise, what you do in a replay mission doesn't carry over to the main. I believe you go back to your last save after you're done with replaying. Ah, so no worries about a detrimental outcome to the current state of my game and position then really. I really just want to re-play that first Kieran Duffy mission because I botched the whole stealth/throwing knife aspect right from the get-go and everything erupted into a massive shoot-out. It was a fantastic shoot-out, but I'd love to get some practice with the actual stealth/knife mechanics in. I actually haven't paid attention to mission rankings at all as all the additional goals seem to focus on quick completion times and I'm not into that at all in a game like this. 15 minutes ago, AndyD said: No point in getting worked up...we're talking about a game. Have you played other rockstar games? Because you just described GTA as well with differences really down to mode of transportation and setting Not sure what people were expecting if they played previous Rockstar games That was my comment - if you mentioned that you hadn't really played the games prior to this, then that would have been the end of it. Otherwise, the point I was making is that you made the statement that described Rockstar games exactly as they are as if it's something new. You gotta ask first before assuming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 By the way, the soundtrack is so ridiculously meticulous that while listening on headphones right now, they even have harsh 60's style panning in terms of recording technique. Many tracks have the entire drumkit hard-panned to the left etc., that's some dedication to original Spaghetti Western soundtracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Biggie said: Tbh I just like triggering @best3444 This game is his girlfriend and I’m disrespecting her. You've never once triggered me. You seem like you can't let this go so that's your problem. Sucks for you you didn't enjoy the game. You got it for free so no big loss. Play cod, Starlink, dq11. You know, games you start and never finish. You must hate all games. 9 hours ago, stepee said: This is so good. Wait till you play that game. It's comically bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, best3444 said: You've never once triggered me. You seem like you can't let this go so that's your problem. Sucks for you you didn't enjoy the game. You got it for free so no big loss. Play cod, Starlink, dq11. You know, games you start and never finish. You must hate all games. Wait till you play that game. It's comically bad. Nah you def got in your feels over a game. You do it all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Mercury33 said: Not to sound morbid but the first time I blew a guy’s head completely off with the double barrel shot gun in dead eye ? i didn’t even know you could do that haha I didn't know you could do that either... they did say something about gorier kills depending on your honor meter, but I've been playing mostly as a white hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Also someone let me know you can do the “light press to draw” on R2 more or less any time. I only thought you could do it when prompted by the game... this is super useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggydoo Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 So some dude ran into my horse and aggro'd him and he started shooting at me. I pistol whipped him and now have bounty on me. What's best way to get rid of it? Just get caught? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyD Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, eggydoo said: So some dude ran into my horse and aggro'd him and he started shooting at me. I pistol whipped him and now have bounty on me. What's best way to get rid of it? Just get caught? Go to postal man and pay the bounty. When I started playing I would restart but it's inevitable for it to happen again and the bounties are usually low so just pay. I accidentally choked a stagecoach guy and now owe like $15 in Valentine. Oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 18 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Also someone let me know you can do the “light press to draw” on R2 more or less any time. I only thought you could do it when prompted by the game... this is super useful. Wait, what? Explain thyself! As in the 'duel mode' thing? I did the tutorial basically when knocking off Emmet Granger but seriously had no clue what I actually did. The text flashed too quickly so I just randomly hit R2 and shot him in the face. No idea what they even meant with "lightly/slowly press down" or how this was triggered? Is this what we're talking about? I'd love to duel random dudes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duderino Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 I keep reading the claim that RDR2’s excessively long animations add to the immersion, but when it comes to the loot body animation I couldn’t disagree more. Waiting for Aurthor to align himself with a corpse, then perform his TSA style patdown feels incredibly out of place. There should be a whole lot more urgency to the action when at any time a witness may spot you or the law men could show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pickle Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 3 hours ago, atom631 said: I had a hunting side mission open up with Javier towards the end of chapter 3. I decided after the next story mission I would do it...and then it disappeared. TBH - I havent done much hunting. A little here and there. I guess bc I have never given a shit about cosmetics in any game, but I do feel like Im missing a lot of adventures that happen while out hunting. I was looking forward to doing this mission because of that. I really want to get back up into the Grizzlies. I havent been back since the first chapter, which was pretty short. Also.. Hide contents for some reason, everyone on reddit is saying you should keep a chapter 3 save. Im not 100% sure why but it sounds like the story kicks up chapter 4 and on and doing a lot of the side stuff feels less important, necessary. also - Hide contents after you beat the game, all the satchels are purchasable... so if you plan on exploring after the end of the game, then it might not be necessary to farm pelts for the satchels. WOW to that second spoiler. That's a kick in the teeth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 39 minutes ago, Duderino said: I keep reading the claim that RDR2’s excessively long animations add to the immersion, but when it comes to the loot body animation I couldn’t disagree more. Waiting for Aurthor to align himself with a corpse, then perform his TSA style patdown feels incredibly out of place. There should be a whole lot more urgency to the action when at any time a witness may spot you or the law men could show up. The alignment thing bugs me too. I can't say I'm a huge fan of the lengthy animations, but I can appreciate what they're trying to do. They're not that long, at least as long as you're properly aligned with your target. Looting a body, getting on a horse, interacting with almost anything, you have to properly align or Arthur is just going to leisurely walk around the horse in the middle of a shootout or something. It's hardly an issue that is unique to RDR2, but the specificity and length of the average animation in RDR2 makes it far more noticable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom631 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, TwinIon said: The alignment thing bugs me too. I can't say I'm a huge fan of the lengthy animations, but I can appreciate what they're trying to do. They're not that long, at least as long as you're properly aligned with your target. Looting a body, getting on a horse, interacting with almost anything, you have to properly align or Arthur is just going to leisurely walk around the horse in the middle of a shootout or something. It's hardly an issue that is unique to RDR2, but the specificity and length of the average animation in RDR2 makes it far more noticable. Im not positive, but I thought I just read that you can hold down the loot button and Arthur will loot evreything within the area. havent tested this yet, but that could help with the alignment issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Mercury33 said: Nah you def got in your feels over a game. You do it all the time. What games are you specifically talking about? Other than tomb raider I don't say much about most games. Please explain. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 58 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: Wait, what? Explain thyself! As in the 'duel mode' thing? I did the tutorial basically when knocking off Emmet Granger but seriously had no clue what I actually did. The text flashed too quickly so I just randomly hit R2 and shot him in the face. No idea what they even meant with "lightly/slowly press down" or how this was triggered? Is this what we're talking about? I'd love to duel random dudes. I haven’t done it much. I don’t think you can “duel” random dudes, but you can light press R2 to engage the “QuickDraw” mechanic more or less any time. I need to play around with it more. But I did it last night to target some guy’s face before I drew my weapon, then it was a quick draw to pew in his teeth. It was handy to target him before I had my gun drawn, he didn’t have time to react to me pulling my gun and then starting up DeadEye the “usual” way. I dunno how to describe it well since I don’t know what the mechanic is called, just... stand in the middle of nowhere and lightly hold down R2, and you should get the slowmo quickdraw/deadeye thing as if you were in a duel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 15 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: I haven’t done it much. I don’t think you can “duel” random dudes, but you can light press R2 to engage the “QuickDraw” mechanic more or less any time. I need to play around with it more. But I did it last night to target some guy’s face before I drew my weapon, then it was a quick draw to pew in his teeth. It was handy to target him before I had my gun drawn, he didn’t have time to react to me pulling my gun and then starting up DeadEye the “usual” way. I dunno how to describe it well since I don’t know what the mechanic is called, just... stand in the middle of nowhere and lightly hold down R2, and you should get the slowmo quickdraw/deadeye thing as if you were in a duel. I get it now I think. Basically lightly holding down R2 mimics the motion of slowly reaching for his gun and focusing on the target I assume. You're probably 'adding' that before the regular Dead Eye by doing that. Never thought to do that though, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duderino Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 37 minutes ago, TwinIon said: The alignment thing bugs me too. I can't say I'm a huge fan of the lengthy animations, but I can appreciate what they're trying to do. They're not that long, at least as long as you're properly aligned with your target. Looting a body, getting on a horse, interacting with almost anything, you have to properly align or Arthur is just going to leisurely walk around the horse in the middle of a shootout or something. It's hardly an issue that is unique to RDR2, but the specificity and length of the average animation in RDR2 makes it far more noticable. It's hard to appreciate something that feels soo out of place in context. I don't believe a real life Arthur Morgan, or the gang for that matter, would loot corpses this leisurely after a shootout. I get the impression Rockstar padded the looting time to give the law ample time to show up. In fact, many of the slow as molasses actions in the game seem to be buying time for systems to wind up. I'll give Rockstar this, it's clever how they've covered it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 40 minutes ago, best3444 said: What games are you specifically talking about? Other than tomb raider I don't say much about most games. Please explain. Thanks. Assassins Creed Uncharted The Lost Legacy Spider-Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 24 minutes ago, Duderino said: It's hard to appreciate something that feels soo out of place in context. I don't believe a real life Arthur Morgan, or the gang for that matter, would loot corpses this leisurely after a shootout. I get the impression Rockstar padded the looting time to give the law ample time to show up. In fact, many of the slow as molasses actions in the game seem to be buying time for systems to wind up. I'll give Rockstar this, it's clever how they've covered it up. No. Clever would have been not making it noticeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyD Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, atom631 said: Im not positive, but I thought I just read that you can hold down the loot button and Arthur will loot evreything within the area. havent tested this yet, but that could help with the alignment issue. That's for everything else but looting bodies. Like if you're at a table with multiple items in front of you then holding square will go through all items. Same for in front of a dresser with multiple drawers - if you hold the button down it will go through all the drawers and items. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duderino Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, Biggie said: No. Clever would have been not making it noticeable. Clearly most people just assume the slow looting is there to add realism like every other slow action in the game, and not serve a game mechanic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Duderino said: Clearly most people just assume the slow looting is there to add realism like every other slow action in the game, and not serve a game mechanic. Its obviously a risk/reward mechanic and IMO it doesnt feel out of place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, SimpleG said: Its obviously a risk/reward mechanic and IMO it doesnt feel out of place. What risk? Do you loot in the middle of a gun fight or something? Kill everyone then loot lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man_of_X Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 20 hours ago, SimpleG said: Because there is no reason for it all.Imagine if one of the streaming sites decided that to FF, RW, or Pause a movie you would have to enter a 5 digit number on your remote. Outside a of a few most people would not excuse it. Its a poor choice that only dampens the experience,combined with a UI that should be taught in school as what not to do. I think, like many things in the game, Rockstar is going for an immersion thing here, making it more realistic. As in you would have to get off of your horse and pull your long rifles out of your saddle slots or whatnot. I certainly don't think there's no reason for it. This unlike the loadout issue actually serves a purpose even if I dont likeit, all though you shouldnt have to choose each item individually,imo it takes the mechanic and draws it out into the absurd. Of course this could be improved, but I don't find it that bad. What are you trying to say here? Its OK to not like it but if you dont like it sounds stupid . I think I'm leaning more heavily on the "this game sucks" comments more than anything rather than someone not having fun. And yes, that sounds stupid, because it doesn't suck. At all. There are other game genres that I dislike and have no interest for them, but I can easily recognize that they're high quality for what they're trying to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bacon said: What risk? Do you loot in the middle of a gun fight or something? Kill everyone then loot lol. I was talking about having someone show up after the gun fight . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just now, SimpleG said: I was talking about having someone show up after the gun fight . Do you mean when the law arrives? Cuz you can wait just outside of the red area and come back when the investigation is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Biggie said: Assassins Creed Uncharted The Lost Legacy Spider-Man All terrific games. I can't post my appreciation for them? Lol, stfu. You gush over Starlink one night then stop playing it the day after. You're a hater, brotha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom631 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Duderino said: It's hard to appreciate something that feels soo out of place in context. I don't believe a real life Arthur Morgan, or the gang for that matter, would loot corpses this leisurely after a shootout. agree. Arthur and the Gang are outlaw robbers. Not petty thieves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom631 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Bacon said: Do you mean when the law arrives? Cuz you can wait just outside of the red area and come back when the investigation is over. whenver ive tried to do this, all the bodies are gone. so i loot as many as i can before the area turns red. then i hightail it outta there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, atom631 said: whenver ive tried to do this, all the bodies are gone. How far did you go? I could still see the bodies so maybe that is why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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