SaysWho? Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 What banning noncompetes could mean for the US workforce WWW.VOX.COM Lina Khan’s FTC wants to change how we think about anti-competitive behavior. The FTC’s New Rule Against Noncompetes Could Raise Wages by $300 Billion WWW.THENATION.COM If this happens, it’ll definitely go through litigation: U.S. Chamber of Commerce threatens to sue the FTC over proposed ban on noncompete clauses WWW.CNBC.COM The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which has curried the favor of Republican lawmakers, said it will sue the FTC if it pursues a ban on noncompete clauses. Even more reason why voting matters, and 2024 matters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 What the fuck is a noncompete clause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 For 99% of people noncompetes are absolutely stupid. Executives and some sales related people yeah it should apply but the company enforcing the clause needs to pay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: What the fuck is a noncompete clause You cannot work for another organization (or start your own) that would be in competition with the employer you worked at who had you sign one. Some are for X amount of time, some are for within a certain distance/region, others are indefinite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 40 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: What the fuck is a noncompete clause It's a provision in an employment agreement that restricts someone from working with a competitor of the hiring organization for a certain period of time after that person leaves that employer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: What the fuck is a noncompete clause Yeah, I need someone to explain this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Yeah, I need someone to explain this one It means if you leave a job you can't work for a competing job in the same region for a certain amount of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Non-compete agreements are considered either wholly or largely unenforceable under the laws of California, North Dakota, Oklahoma, and DC. Other states, including Maine, Maryland, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and Washington, have banned non-compete agreements for low-wage workers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 I always enjoyed that Subway would force their minimum wage employees to sign noncompetes. "YOU WILL NOT TAKE THESE SANDWICH MAKING SECRETS ELSEWHERE" 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 Noncompetes suck and are a staple of my profession. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, SaysWho? said: Noncompetes suck and are a staple of my profession. You're a professional wrestler? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Do it, ***k noncompetes. (yes I work in tech, this stuff is also everywhere in the gaming space including soft agreements not to poach in someone's backyard). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: For 99% of people noncompetes are absolutely stupid. Executives and some sales related people yeah it should apply but the company enforcing the clause needs to pay. It's bullshit even for the 1%. What they're trying to keep from happening with a noncompete can be better enforced with agreements not to poach customers or share company secrets and/or strategies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 I hope it's adopted. Although I've never been affected by noncompete contracts, I think they are insanely stupid and anti-free market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Oh I see. When I worked for Toyota I wasn’t allowed to go to Honda lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Spork3245 said: I always enjoyed that Subway would force their minimum wage employees to sign noncompetes. "YOU WILL NOT TAKE THESE SANDWICH MAKING SECRETS ELSEWHERE" Maybe if Quiznos had their employees sign non-competes, Subway couldn’t have poached their trade secret… an oven. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Maybe if Quiznos had their employees sign non-competes, Subway couldn’t have poached their trade secret… an oven. I wish Jimmy John's would poach that trade secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 45 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: It's bullshit even for the 1%. What they're trying to keep from happening with a noncompete can be better enforced with agreements not to poach customers or share company secrets and/or strategies. A lot of places have those in the contract as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 58 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Maybe if Quiznos had their employees sign non-competes, Subway couldn’t have poached their trade secret… an oven. lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Kal-El814 said: Maybe if Quiznos had their employees sign non-competes, Subway couldn’t have poached their trade secret… an oven. I'm not sure that Subway has actually figured out how to use it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Yeah, whenever I've had Subway heat my sandwich up...it's just soggy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, chakoo said: A lot of places have those in the contract as well. Yeah, they'll throw everything they can in there to tie down employees and suppress wages. At least in the case of corporate strategies and customers, that's a pretty reasonable. Stopping you from working in an industry you're familiar with is bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 based biden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 30 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Yeah, whenever I've had Subway heat my sandwich up...it's just soggy. That’s what happens when you heat plastic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Great!! When I was poor I had to do secret freelance to pay the bills and was technically in violation of my contract, but they weren't paying me enough and they were holding something important to my career if I didn't stay long enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, SuperSpreader said: Great!! When I was poor I had to do secret freelance to pay the bills and was technically in violation of my contract, but they weren't paying me enough and they were holding something important to my career if I didn't stay long enough. Thanks for reminding me. A big fuck you to companies that have provisions to disallow employees from working second jobs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Vince McMahon is having a stroke as we speak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, MarSolo said: Vince McMahon is having a stroke as we speak. In addition he is also upset by this news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, MarSolo said: Vince McMahon is having a stroke as we speak. Just now, stepee said: In addition he is also upset by this news. Technically what the WWE does isn't a non-compete. Their contracts are structured that they can terminate them with 90-days notice. So the wrestlers are still employed, still getting paid, just not working shows. Then there's all the other shitty stuff on top, like extending contracts due to injury and such. They are undoubtedly a shitty company with shitty contracts, but probably wouldn't be affected by this new rule. I think they previously had non-competes in their contracts, but when Brock Lesnar actually threatened to sue over it they dropped it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, ThreePi said: Technically what the WWE does isn't a non-compete. Their contracts are structured that they can terminate them with 90-days notice. So the wrestlers are still employed, still getting paid, just not working shows. Then there's all the other shitty stuff on top, like extending contracts due to injury and such. They are undoubtedly a shitty company with shitty contracts, but probably wouldn't be affected by this new rule. I think they previously had non-competes in their contracts, but when Brock Lesnar actually threatened to sue over it they dropped it. There are still non-compete clauses in the contracts for WWE performers. The biggest issue is that they’re not employees of WWE as WWE uses an independent contractor loophole, so it’s doubly as shitty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: There are still non-compete clauses in the contracts for WWE performers. The biggest issue is that they’re not employees of WWE as WWE uses an independent contractor loophole, so it’s doubly as shitty. Remember that weird period where they forced the crew to wear suits AT ALL TIMES outside of work? So these guys are traveling, walking through airports and they’re forced to be dressed to the nines… with the obvious exception of John Cena and the Undertaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 To be fair I was just making a comment on how it seems he is constantly in the middle of a stroke these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, stepee said: To be fair I was just making a comment on how it seems he is constantly in the middle of a stroke these days 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 This thread is like a quintessential nutshell/greatest hits compilation of PREC. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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