Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 21 minutes ago, XxEvil AshxX said: I actually like third person shooters, but I honestly have no interest in the Suicide Squad. I couldn't even get through the movies. That said, I'd still give it a try if it looked intriguing. But man, there's something about this game that just looks... unappealing. And I think I know what it is. Not to pimp my own channel... but... Agents of Mayhem is exactly what this game is being compared to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 I didn’t realize its battle passed. The gameplay looked fun to me but this one is going to hinge on how much I can play it like a single player action game removed from whatever coop/gaas/loot box nonsense might be in here for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 It looks fine. I’ll play it through for the story, but there is no chance I play beyond that point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 3 hours ago, stepee said: I didn’t realize its battle passed. The gameplay looked fun to me but this one is going to hinge on how much I can play it like a single player action game removed from whatever coop/gaas/loot box nonsense might be in here for me. The single player has the other 3 characters controlled by bots if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: The single player has the other 3 characters controlled by bots if that helps. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Wait... Harley and Deadshot using guns? Ok sure. But King Shark and Boomerang??? I mean i KNOW i'm gonna buy and play this game, but they couldn't figure out anyway to make the gameplay more relevant to the actual characters? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 I'd play it if it comes to PS+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 They're just building what their WB overlords want. I'd love to play what the devs actually wanted to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 That is unfortunately probably the situation. Corporate suits thinking they know best, when really I would be much more interested if I knew for sure I was playing a game that Rocksteady wanted to make of their own volition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I'm kinda curious as to why it seems like we keep getting games that "should" be single player titles getting shoe-horned into a quasi-GAAS mold. I feel like we've seen it in a number of big titles, but outside of Destiny I can't think of many actual success stories. There are plenty of games that are pure multiplayer that make tons of money from battlepasses and whatever, so that makes sense. Meanwhile, the single player adventure games that people wish these games would emulate, show up in the best selling games list every year. I know the Avengers game lost money, but are there other games like this that turned a big profit and are compelling studios to force co-op and battlepasses into these games? Do the Lego games make a ton of money selling extras? Or is it just that they see the figures coming in from multiplayer games and can't help themselves but to chase after that revenue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxEvil AshxX Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, TwinIon said: I'm kinda curious as to why it seems like we keep getting games that "should" be single player titles getting shoe-horned into a quasi-GAAS mold. I feel like we've seen it in a number of big titles, but outside of Destiny I can't think of many actual success stories. There are plenty of games that are pure multiplayer that make tons of money from battlepasses and whatever, so that makes sense. Meanwhile, the single player adventure games that people wish these games would emulate, show up in the best selling games list every year. I know the Avengers game lost money, but are there other games like this that turned a big profit and are compelling studios to force co-op and battlepasses into these games? Do the Lego games make a ton of money selling extras? Or is it just that they see the figures coming in from multiplayer games and can't help themselves but to chase after that revenue? Because Rocksteady took so goddamn long to make this game, the GAAS model went from "It could be successful" to "hey we're making a shit ton money here" to "Welp, it was a good run." It's not very often you get in early on the hot new trend, and yet totally miss the boat on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eventide11 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 At this just make it Genshin Impact levels of FTP and be done with it since that's the model they're aiming for anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, eventide11 said: At this just make it Genshin Impact levels of FTP and be done with it since that's the model they're aiming for anyway Absolutely this GAAS should not be combined with full price titles. I think this will do a bit better than Avengers but I doubt it sticks around much longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, TwinIon said: I'm kinda curious as to why it seems like we keep getting games that "should" be single player titles getting shoe-horned into a quasi-GAAS mold. I feel like we've seen it in a number of big titles, but outside of Destiny I can't think of many actual success stories. There are plenty of games that are pure multiplayer that make tons of money from battlepasses and whatever, so that makes sense. Meanwhile, the single player adventure games that people wish these games would emulate, show up in the best selling games list every year. I know the Avengers game lost money, but are there other games like this that turned a big profit and are compelling studios to force co-op and battlepasses into these games? Do the Lego games make a ton of money selling extras? Or is it just that they see the figures coming in from multiplayer games and can't help themselves but to chase after that revenue? This isn't even necessarily a game whose underlying concept defaults immediately to single-player, at least in my mind. In an informational vacuum, I'd simply assume that this would be a Borderlands-like co-op experience that could be played solo, just like Borderlands can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I thought when you played Borderlands you truly played it as single player. In Suicide Squad, the developers said the other members of your squad are controlled by bots in the single player campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: I thought when you played Borderlands you truly played it as single player. In Suicide Squad, the developers said the other members of your squad are controlled by bots in the single player campaign. I believe that you're correct that in Borderlands that there are no bots if you're playing solo though I don't remember if there are certain missions where it's your character and two other AI-controlled characters. Whatever the case, the title "Suicide Squad" just inherently implies a default co-op experience to me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I believe that you're correct that in Borderlands that there are no bots if you're playing solo though I don't remember if there are certain missions where it's your character and two other AI-controlled characters. Whatever the case, the title "Suicide Squad" just inherently implies a default co-op experience to me. Fair enough. Perhaps it was mostly the developer rather than the license that made me default to imagining a single-player Guardians of the Galaxy style game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 27, 2023 Author Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, TwinIon said: Fair enough. Perhaps it was mostly the developer rather than the license that made me default to imagining a single-player Guardians of the Galaxy style game. I personally think that GotG was a missed opportunity for a pretty decent co-op experience too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I personally think that GotG was a missed opportunity for a pretty decent co-op experience too! #BringBackBruteForce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 just got delayed "later in the year" lol. man whoever convinced Rocksteady to do this game is crazy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 On 2/27/2023 at 12:51 PM, Spork3245 said: #BringBackBruteForce I hope you're not joking because I fucking LOVED that game. Unfortunately it got overshadowed for being hyped as "The Next Halo"... it. wasn't. But it was a fun shooter in its' own right with surprisingly good A.I. for your squad members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 A delay isn’t going to help anything if the problems are concept related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: A delay isn’t going to help anything if the problems are concept related. I'm really at a loss as to what they could possibly accomplish with a delay that doesn't require rebuilding the game from the ground up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Suicide Squad, indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 A delay related to fan reaction? Lolololol I can’t imagine the cost spent on this game already. The delay ain’t gonna fix it. Release it, take the L, and move on. Heck you would be better off releasing it as is, get hands on feedback, and spend the money post launch to fix it if possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, Brian said: A delay related to fan reaction? Lolololol The article's headline has been changed to say the delay is to "add more polish". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The article's headline has been changed to say the delay is to "add more polish". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 Jeff Grubb has heard that the game could potentially be delayed into 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 35 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Jeff Grubb has heard that the game could potentially be delayed into 2024. It needs it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Brian said: A delay related to fan reaction? Lolololol I can’t imagine the cost spent on this game already. The delay ain’t gonna fix it. Release it, take the L, and move on. Heck you would be better off releasing it as is, get hands on feedback, and spend the money post launch to fix it if possible. Except with modern publishers they don't allow you to take any losses. One failure and they close the studio down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Brick said: Except with modern publishers they don't allow you to take any losses. One failure and they close the studio down. I mean, that really isn’t true. Luminous for example, was certainly not just one failure, it was a series of them. But yeah, if you’re responsible for 200m in losses, you will probably end up shut down. Lumimous has been posting multi-million dollar losses for SE since at least 2018. Embracer the CCP connected Tencent, they were always going to shutter devs that didn’t perform. They are investment groups, not gaming companies. They can close studios that don’t perform and move valuable IP to those who do, and they don’t care about the human cost or the games themselves. But most other publishers absolutely are not closing devs that post losses once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Delayed until 2.2.24 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 That's a big delay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 So, same name but new game? ;p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Is it bad that I’m going to buy this regardless solely for Kevin Conroy’s final Batman performance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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