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finaljedi Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Trump is not Teflon, the fact that Trump's ceiling is approximately 42% approval is proof. It's just how racism is priced in and no one is changing their minds about him or it But nothing actually happens thanks to the stupid way our government is set up. He said he's in charge of the Hatch Act and he's not really wrong, he called the emoluments clause phony and he's not really wrong on that front either. His constant trips to his own businesses funnel money into his family coffers thanks to the fact the government has to pay market rate for everything. Senate Republicans range from bootlicking to mild condemnations, but remain firmly in his corner because he's packing the courts and deregulating their constituents businesses. He'll probably be re-elected because the Democrats are pretty split between the old timers and the modern progressives and the Republicans seem to love them some Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 We played “smear the queer” at recess in 1998 and the teachers told us to sit Indian style. Shit was different then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mclumber1 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Yeah, this is a stupid thing to hammer Trump on. It's a distraction and all of you limp wristed leftists fell for it. STICK TO THE PROGRAM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Yeah, this is a stupid thing to hammer Trump on. It's a distraction and all of you limp wristed leftists fell for it. STICK TO THE PROGRAM Anyone who didn't see it for what it is--a racism bomb used to distract the media given the bad press he's gotten vis a vi the implementation inquiry--is a fucking mark of the highest order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Anyone who didn't see it for what it is--a racism bomb used to distract the media given the bad press he's gotten vis a vi the implementation inquiry--is a fucking mark of the highest order The media are the bigliest marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 All the places I've checked have kept Bill Taylor at top billing pretty much all day, so it hasn't been 100% shitty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 All of the reporting I watched tonight somehow managed to acknowledge that this was a deliberate distraction coming from Trump AND call him out for doing it while keeping the The Bill Taylor Testimony front and center... in fact I'd say it backfired on him because it had a lot of Republicans who would normally defend him for the Taylor stuff have to distance themselves from his Lynching remarks... Oh and they also managed to call out the Dems who used the Lynching term in reference to Clinton's impeachment too... so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 6 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: All of the reporting I watched tonight somehow managed to acknowledge that this was a deliberate distraction coming from Trump AND call him out for doing it while keeping the The Bill Taylor Testimony front and center... in fact I'd say it backfired on him because it had a lot of Republicans who would normally defend him for the Taylor stuff have to distance themselves from his Lynching remarks... Oh and they also managed to call out the Dems who used the Lynching term in reference to Clinton's impeachment too... so In addition to that, the lead story everywhere, including the ABC/CBS/NBC morning shows (easily the most watched morning shows, not Fox & Friends) is the testimony. And the headlines are direct: "U.S. Diplomat directly ties Trump to Ukraine Quid Pro Quo" "Explosive Testimony" "Ukraine aid linked to Trump's demands" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: In addition to that, the lead story everywhere, including the ABC/CBS/NBC morning shows (easily the most watched morning shows, not Fox & Friends) is the testimony. And the headlines are direct: "U.S. Diplomat directly ties Trump to Ukraine Quid Pro Quo" "Explosive Testimony" Thanks, localnewsguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Thanks, localnewsguy Can't anyone watch TV, doe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 42 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Can't anyone watch TV, doe? I was being sincere,I ain't got no time to watch the local news. I barely have time to hatewatch Morning Joe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: In addition to that, the lead story everywhere, including the ABC/CBS/NBC morning shows (easily the most watched morning shows, not Fox & Friends) is the testimony. And the headlines are direct: "U.S. Diplomat directly ties Trump to Ukraine Quid Pro Quo" "Explosive Testimony" "Ukraine aid linked to Trump's demands" The story’s not appearing anywhere on conservative news outlets like the American Spectator and National Review—and the Republicans won’t change their tune until their media ecosystem can’t avoid acknowledging stuff like this. The Dems need to jump on this, redirect everything to it and not deviate on messaging, otherwise they’re giving conservative media an out to focus on the latest stupid Tweetstorm coming out of Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: The story’s not appearing anywhere on conservative news outlets like the American Spectator and National Review—and the Republicans won’t change their time until their media ecosystem can’t avoid acknowledging stuff like this. The Dems need to jump on this, redirect everything to it and not deviate on messaging, otherwise they’re giving conservative media an out to focus on the latest stupid Tweetstorm coming out of Trump. Yes, the highly influential American Spectator and its high name recognition plus the "Trump does as they say" National Review. Without them, there is no hope. Conservative media will do whatever it wants (those two sites aren't focusing on his tweets either); you guys need to realize many of these people get their news from regular outlets as well because they have to at least type angry comments about bad Trump stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Yes, the highly influential American Spectator and its high name recognition plus the "Trump does as they say" National Review. Without them, there is no hope. Conservative media will do whatever it wants; you guys need to realize many of these people get their news from regular outlets as well because they have to at least type angry comments about bad Trump stories. The Republican firewall only cracks when they begin to fear defending Trump means losing their jobs. Their constituents see all the outlets you named as ‘fake news’ now; they’ll only begin to sweat when their own media ecosystem can’t credibly fail to report what’s going on. That’s entirely possible, but the Dems need to make their message all about this smoking gun and nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: The Republican firewall only cracks when they begin to fear defending Trump means losing their jobs. Their constituents see all the outlets you named as ‘fake news’ now; they’ll only begin to sweat when their own media ecosystem can’t credibly fail to report what’s going on. That’s entirely possible, but the Dems need to make their message all about this smoking gun and nothing else. They viewed it as fake news 10 years ago; it's just a different name they're using. In 2004, it was the dastardly "MSM" going nuts over the story about Bush and the military. In 2006, the "mainstream media" didn't even want us to "win" in Iraq. In 2009, Palin and far-right Republicans called it the "lamestream media." Right now, they're trying to deflect by talking about foreign policy or Syria and the Kurds. 47% video comes out about Romney? They come out and say that somehow that will win Romney the election. They do whatever they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 They won't fear for their jobs so long as the wealthy mega donors keep cutting checks. Republicans (and Democrats, too) are aligning on cultural issues, not policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: They viewed it as fake news 10 years ago; it's just a different name they're using. In 2004, it was the dastardly "MSM" going nuts over the story about Bush and the military. In 2006, the "mainstream media" didn't even want us to "win" in Iraq. In 2009, Palin and far-right Republicans called it the "lamestream media." Right now, they're trying to deflect by talking about foreign policy or Syria and the Kurds. 47% video comes out about Romney? They come out and say that somehow that will win Romney the election. They do whatever they want. I disagree. Sure, they'll try to report any bit of bad news in a way that minimizes damage to Trump, but if every time the Dems opened their mouths the only message that came out was "Bill Taylor", at some point it becomes impossible for them to write about the Democrats without mentioning the testimony. And if the testimony holds up as the 'smoking gun', at some point that general awareness of it adds up to a Nixonian situation where middle-of-the-road conservatives finally start to see Trump as a liability. (I'll readily admit that there is a large contingent that will never abandon him and pin this all on a 'Deep State Conspiracy', but I think the center-right is open to pulling their support if the evidence is 'slam-dunk' enough) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Republicans pulling stupid Republican stunts again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 Whoever called Congressional Republicans second-rate used hot tub salesmen was too kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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osxmatt Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I want off this ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, osxmatt said: I want off this ride POTUS is CIC. CIC leads the military. People in the military can shoot people legally. Checkmate, bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, osxmatt said: I want off this ride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 23, 2019 Author Share Posted October 23, 2019 Predictable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ort Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 This is such an embarrassing time to be an American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Don't worry, we'll white wash this history too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, ort said: This is such an embarrassing time to be an American. Honestly it's always been kind of embarrassing to be an American. 2002: U.S.: 'Hague Invasion Act' Becomes Law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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