CitizenVectron Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I'd love to hear differing points of view, but I think Joe Biden's non existent answers on packing the Supreme Court and ending the filibuster are unacceptable. The voters should know where you stand on an issue, and whether we like that stance or don't. Stop being a bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, osxmatt said: I'd love to hear differing points of view, but I think Joe Biden's non existent answers on packing the Supreme Court and ending the filibuster are unacceptable. The voters should know where you stand on an issue, and whether we like that stance or don't. Stop being a bitch. No one cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I mean, I kind of care? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, osxmatt said: I mean, I kind of care? Guess you're gonna have to vote for Trump now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 You know, it is possible to care about things that will matter after the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: You know, it is possible to care about things that will matter after the election. Nope, pack it, don't. Doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 8 hours ago, osxmatt said: I'd love to hear differing points of view, but I think Joe Biden's non existent answers on packing the Supreme Court and ending the filibuster are unacceptable. The voters should know where you stand on an issue, and whether we like that stance or don't. Stop being a bitch. I feel like answering the question, regardless of the answer, will hurt him more than help him. There’s no upside; keep on dodging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 The answer depends on what Senate Republicans do honestly. If he answers then that becomes the story and not the ACB confirmation. I don't think the courts get reformed if she is not confirmed though. His no comment is way better than shitting on the left/base which he has no problem doing otherwise, just keep that in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 14 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: So...we have to vote for it to find out what's in it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Perhaps I am missing something because this meme seems to think Justices goes brrrr. Wouldn't the change to the supreme court need bipartisan support? Which means it's DOA because why would repubs go for things that limit their power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 14 hours ago, osxmatt said: I'd love to hear differing points of view, but I think Joe Biden's non existent answers on packing the Supreme Court and ending the filibuster are unacceptable. The voters should know where you stand on an issue, and whether we like that stance or don't. Stop being a bitch. There is literally not an answer he can give that won't get him into trouble. The dodge is the perfect move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Zaku3 said: Perhaps I am missing something because this meme seems to think Justices goes brrrr. Wouldn't the change to the supreme court need bipartisan support? Which means it's DOA because why would repubs go for things that limit their power? Nope, takes an act of congress and signed into law by the president to change the size of the supreme court and complete makeup of the lower courts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, Zaku3 said: Perhaps I am missing something because this meme seems to think Justices goes brrrr. Wouldn't the change to the supreme court need bipartisan support? Which means it's DOA because why would repubs go for things that limit their power? As long as the Democrats control the House and Senate, and Biden wins, they could change the Supreme Court to 100 seats and there's nothing the Republicans could do, procedurally. The Democrats would need to eliminate the filibuster first, of course, but I think they are likely to do that anyway since McConnell will abuse it to stall every single thing the Democrats want to do once they win. Honestly, the entire US government needs updating. SCOTUS should be 11 or 13 seats, the House should be increased to 1000+ seats (at a minimum), and Puerto Rico and DC need to be added as states. Will the Republicans counter if they take control of the House, Senate, and Presidency at some point? Sure. But they are already eroding every single convention and norm, so there is no risk in Democrats doing it first to at least postpone the US' fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Scotus desperately needs a technical court because if you listened to the arguments on google v oracle it's real, real, real bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: As long as the Democrats control the House and Senate, and Biden wins, they could change the Supreme Court to 100 seats and there's nothing the Republicans could do, procedurally. The Democrats would need to eliminate the filibuster first, of course, but I think they are likely to do that anyway since McConnell will abuse it to stall every single thing the Democrats want to do once they win. Honestly, the entire US government needs updating. SCOTUS should be 11 or 13 seats, the House should be increased to 1000+ seats (at a minimum), and Puerto Rico and DC need to be added as states. Will the Republicans counter if they take control of the House, Senate, and Presidency at some point? Sure. But they are already eroding every single convention and norm, so there is no risk in Democrats doing it first to at least postpone the US' fall. Eliminating the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929 also mostly fixes the Electoral College. Win-win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Make SCOTUS 200 seats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 51 minutes ago, SlipperySlope said: Make SCOTUS 200 seats Make SCOTUS 0 seats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, PaladinSolo said: Make SCOTUS 0 seats. lol the few good things we have in this country are thanks to SCOTUS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I think a good compromise would be the sitting members of SCOTUS nominate a new member when a vacancy occurs, and the Senate performs their usual advise and consent function as outlined in the Constitution. A caveat would be that the retiring/dying/whatever judge cannot nominate their own replacement, just the remaining judges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, Joe said: lol the few good things we have in this country are thanks to SCOTUS. Buckle up, so many good things coming! The supreme court guts the Voter Rights Act … since racism is over | Ana Marie Cox | Opinion | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Ana Marie Cox: Our conservative supreme court justices are convinced racial discrimination is over. Do they live in America? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Make a new court of 11 judges the new Supreme Court and the current one can be the circuit court covering North Dakota. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 18 hours ago, osxmatt said: I'd love to hear differing points of view, but I think Joe Biden's non existent answers on packing the Supreme Court and ending the filibuster are unacceptable. The voters should know where you stand on an issue, and whether we like that stance or don't. Stop being a bitch. Thing is even asking the question presupposes and tacitly excuses maladministration on the part of republican leaders. It's inappropriate to ask Biden the question of whether he'd expand the court while republican leaders go unquestioned over their own court packing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Thing is even asking the question presupposes and tacitly excuses maladministration on the part of republican leaders. It's inappropriate to ask Biden the question of whether he'd expand the court while republican leaders go unquestioned over their own court packing. An acceptable response could have been, "The citizens of this country deserve to be represented fairly. With an ACB confirmation our supreme court would make up an overwhelming conservative majority, and that is not representative of our fine citizens. I would exercise my power to make sure the SC represents the values of our citizens.". And then throw in some shade about Republicans stonewalling Obama and packing the courts themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 The Warren court and a few decent rulings thanks to Kennedy joining the liberals are all the good this court has done. Court liberals are what was good, not the institution! The institution would be "ok" at best if all but maybe 3 justices weren't the result of undemocratic/stolen presidential elections, to say nothing of the Senate being a broken institution itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The Warren court and a few decent rulings thanks to Kennedy joining the liberals are all the good this court has done. Court liberals are what was good, not the institution! The institution would be "ok" at best if all but maybe 3 justices weren't the result of undemocratic/stolen presidential elections, to say nothing of the Senate being a broken institution itself This argument ignores the fact that all three institutions suck, not just SCOTUS. We would be way farther behind as a society without SCOTUS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, Joe said: This argument ignores the fact that all three institutions suck, not just SCOTUS. We would be way farther behind as a society without SCOTUS. I don't disagree but the institution can only be as good as the people in charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I don't disagree but the institution can only be as good as the people in charge I'm just saying, if you want SCOTUS as an institution to be eliminated but leave POTUS and Congress as institutions, you're a literal moron. Not saying you necessarily are saying that, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 The entire American political system should be extirpated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Joe said: I'm just saying, if you want SCOTUS as an institution to be eliminated but leave POTUS and Congress as institutions, you're a literal moron. Not saying you necessarily are saying that, though. Fwiw, POTUS needs to be abolished and congress strengthened. More of a Westminster system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 Quote Aging is far from a new problem for the Senate, where both parties reward seniority and are reluctant to push their elders aside. Ms. Feinstein’s allies insist she will play her role with dignity and force, and Democrats have quietly put in place plans to keep her at the periphery of the action, leaving public appearances to other party leaders and ensuring that she will rarely be called upon to make unscripted remarks. But rarely has someone with Ms. Feinstein’s limitations been asked to take so prominent a stage in a battle fraught with such political risk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 christ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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