CitizenVectron Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Trump allies prepare to infuse ‘Christian nationalism’ in second administration - POLITICO WWW.POLITICO.COM Spearheading the effort is Russell Vought, president of The Center for Renewing America, part of a conservative consortium preparing for Trump's return to power. Politico has gotten ahold of internal documents from Trump campaign advisors and former Trump admin officials with a list of policy ideas that they have agreed to pursue. These include: A 16-week national ban on abortion (individual states could go farther). An end to "no fault" divorce. Ending surrogacy. Using federal education funding to end sex education in schools. Change federal programs that penalize marriage. Revoke FDA approval of "chemical abortion drugs" and the ability to receive abortion drugs via mail. Protecting "religious and moral" objections for employers who decline contraception coverage for employees. Eliminate policies that "subsidize single-motherhood" (no specifics given). Increasing surveillance of abortion and maternal mortality reporting in the states. Invoking the Insurrection Act on Day One to quash protests. Refusing to spend authorized congressional funds on unwanted projects (a practice made illegal under Nixon) and fight the case to the Supreme Court. Eliminating the diversity lottery for immigration and reforming immigration criteria away from nation of origin, education, family connections, and employment to instead base immigration quality on their commitment to biblical teachings. Saying a person's background doesn't define who can enter the U.S., but rather, citing Biblical teachings, whether that person "accept[ed] Israel's God, laws and understanding of history." Create a new federal task force on fighting anti-Christian bias to be led by "a fully reformed Department of Justice that's fair and equitable." Get court rulings recognizing that the separation of church and state is "a commitment to an institutional separation between church and state, but not the separation of Christianity from its influence on government and society. Such a framework can lead to beneficial outcomes for our own communities, as well as individuals of all faiths." Eliminate funding for and penalize state programs that promote transgender acceptance and replace them with programs that attempt to help correct gender confusion in youths. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 20 Author Share Posted February 20 Trump and his team fully intend to convert the US to a Christo-Fascist state. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 29 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Trump and his team fully intend to convert the US to an Anglo-Fascist state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Yeah, that shit is alarming. But the immigration one will end up biting them in the ass, because they seem to think brown people don’t read their Bibles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 It would be odd for something like that to be spearheaded by what is probably the least Christian President. Anyway, Under His Eye, or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Pretty much all of these are contained with the Project 2025 documentation as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 cool and totally normal ideals. religion is a cancer 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 15 minutes ago, finaljedi said: It would be odd for something like that to be spearheaded by what is probably the least Christian President. Anyway, Under His Eye, or whatever. Historically, whomever is the one to pick up the mantle of the "Defender of Christendom" has been a monster devoid of the espoused Christian values. Christians have, in turn, always decided to look the opposite direction, as religion and hypocrisy go together like chocolate and peanut butter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Choose Salvation! Or go to prison! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 The problem is that this doesn't "die" in the event of a Trump loss. Project 2025 becomes Project 2029 and so on. This is like the old story of the terrorist needing to only be lucky once while those trying to stop him have to be lucky every single time. And sooner or later, luck eventually runs out. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 The Republican Party needs to be eradicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 That shit scares the shit out of me. Civil War almost seems like a 50/50 chance if Trump wins and that goes through. Here’s hoping Biden wins, Trump is jailed, and more charges comes afterwards for the politicians who were also involved in the scheme. We know they’re working now in congress/senate/Supreme Court. It’s a huge fucking incredible dream, but anything’s possible?!? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 9 minutes ago, Amazatron said: The Republican Party needs to be eradicated. Maybe I'm naive, but I feel like their pivot to being in service of pretty much just Trump hasn't helped them in the long run. They have been underperfoming in the midterms ever since they attached themselves to Trump. They don't really have anyone else that anyone gives a shit about after the KFC chicken buckets finally send him to hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 If the Biden campaign doesn't make this information one of the key elements of its strategy starting right the hell now, then it would be guilty of political -- if not, criminal -- negligence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 32 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The problem is that this doesn't "die" in the event of a Trump loss. Project 2025 becomes Project 2029 and so on. This is like the old story of the terrorist needing to only be lucky once while those trying to stop him have to be lucky every single time. And sooner or later, luck eventually runs out. Great. In our current political climate, the GOP only has to win once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Wait till most Christians realize they also don't fit the mold 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 6 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Great. In our current political climate, the GOP only has to win once. Yes, that's exactly the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: Wait till most Christians realize they also don't fit the mold And you'll keep waiting. They didn't get that message in the 12th century, the inquisition, the witch burnings of Europe, the witch burnings of new England, the satanic panic of the 80/90s and they won't get it now or a hundred years from now. This is true for any religion. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 that is dystopian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 45 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The problem is that this doesn't "die" in the event of a Trump loss. Project 2025 becomes Project 2029 and so on. 24 minutes ago, finaljedi said: Maybe I'm naive, but I feel like their pivot to being in service of pretty much just Trump hasn't helped them in the long run. They have been underperfoming in the midterms ever since they attached themselves to Trump. They don't really have anyone else that anyone gives a shit about after the KFC chicken buckets finally send him to hell. This quote here from the end of the article really lays out the long-term goal: “These folks aren’t as interested in democracy or working through democratic systems as in the old religious right because their theology is one of Christian warfare.” This is a war. It doesn't matter if their views are popular or not, that doesn't factor into their strategy. In fact it only HELPS their narrative of Christian persecution. They've known for a long time the voting population has been moving away from extremist Christian views. They've been playing the long game. They don't need or care about the will of the people. The goal through gerrymandering, voter registration restrictions, eliminating polling places in minority communities and on college campuses, and most recently when they upped the ante drastically with the fake elector scheme, voter intimidation, hindering or elimination of mail-in ballots, and the Jan 6 insurrection... That's the real game. Systematic dismantling of the systems of democracy, while sowing the seeds of mistrust among Conservatives in the integrity of our elections. Convince enough people you're right, and put the right people in positions of judicial power, and you have all the pieces for ending democracy, and you didn't even need the majority to do it. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 @Reputator absolutely nailed the harsh reality with his post. We should all honestly start preparing ourselves mentally and emotionally as best we can for if/when it eventually does happen, whether in January 2025 or at some other point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 i dunno, seems pretty chill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Fuck these people in the eye with a rusty broadhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: @Reputator absolutely nailed the harsh reality with his post. We should all honestly start preparing ourselves mentally and emotionally as best we can for if/when it eventually does happen, whether in January 2025 or at some other point. I'm stocking up on alcohol and canned goods as we speak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best3444 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 That seems like a to do list from the anti-christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 So yeah. Does any of this really surprise anyone? Trump has always had a hard-on for Christian Nationalism, especially the nationalism part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 4 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: @Reputator absolutely nailed the harsh reality with his post. We should all honestly start preparing ourselves mentally and emotionally as best we can for if/when it eventually does happen, whether in January 2025 or at some other point. Somehow even though I fully believe both of you I have become oddly optimistic over the last year and a half. I have no rational reason to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 But I was assured by a poster on this board that the pro life movement isn’t about this! Fuck your religion, your god doesn’t exist, your beliefs are abhorrent and your morality is archaic barbarism. 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 For the last couple of weeks there's been all these op-eds about how Democrats can assuage people's concerns about Biden being so old. Man, put Biden in a protective bubble somewhere and just pump out TV ads with this shit scrolling up the screen and "THIS IS TRUMP'S ACTUAL PLAN" in giant block letters on the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShreddieMercury Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I don't understand how a complete federal takeover and dismantling of democracy would quite work in this country. I know that they are trying, and fascism is on the rise, but the distribution of state power works both ways, and even conservatives will at some point not lie down and accept such an extreme attempt to strip away rights. Not that the ensuing conflict would be much better, and I'm fairly cynical overall, but I also do believe that once you start interacting with real people outside of the internet, most have more in common than they realize, and that the cycle of hatred and oppression that we are continually exposed to online hasn't quite metastasized the way our media would have you believe. The internet and social media are a grave existential threat and have been weaponized against us to nefarious ends, but they're also not reflective of reality in very key ways. This election is indeed the most important in history, with extremely grave consequences should republicans again take control, but I think there are significant barriers to a plan like this. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 minute ago, ShreddieMercury said: I don't understand how a complete federal takeover and dismantling of democracy would quite work in this country. because the rich people in charge dont really care and there are never any real consequences for these people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 hours ago, ShreddieMercury said: I don't understand how a complete federal takeover and dismantling of democracy would quite work in this country. I know that they are trying, and fascism is on the rise, but the distribution of state power works both ways, and even conservatives will at some point not lie down and accept such an extreme attempt to strip away rights. Not that the ensuing conflict would be much better, and I'm fairly cynical overall, but I also do believe that once you start interacting with real people outside of the internet, most have more in common than they realize, and that the cycle of hatred and oppression that we are continually exposed to online hasn't quite metastasized the way our media would have you believe. The internet and social media are a grave existential threat and have been weaponized against us to nefarious ends, but they're also not reflective of reality in very key ways. This election is indeed the most important in history, with extremely grave consequences should republicans again take control, but I think there are significant barriers to a plan like this. By stacking the administrative state with people who are willing to do it...Project 2025 isn't about electing conservative politicians or stacking the judiciary, it's about making sure that even the OMB and SSA are staffed with ghouls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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