Jan 6 anniversary.

[CastletonSnob]

The anniversary of Jan 6 is tomorrow. Do you remember where you were when it happened? Do you think Jan 6. will go down as one of the most important moments in American history, like 9/11?

[Jwheel86]

I don't think so, it could have been had it not been stopped. Would we remember 9/11 if 3 of the planes were stopped at the gate and the 4th was taken back by the passengers? 

[mclumber1]

It was America's Beer Hall Putsch.  Thankfully Donald Trump is an old man, unlike that young Austrian fella. 

[SaysWho?]

If the U.S. devolves into fascism or a second attempt is successful, yes, it'll be remembered. If we nip this shit now, it'll be an embarrassing moment in our history but one that didn't define us.

 

We get to write this chapter.

[Bacon]

Vivek Ramasquamy is leading a riot in GTA RP tomorrow.

[Reputator]

 

 

Seems like as good a place as any for this. I think this was a powerful, pointed speech. He went into just as many specifics as he did platitudes and I think it really hit the message home. He's not pulling any punches towards Trump.

 

 

[MarSolo]

“Suddenly, kneeling during the National Anthem doesn’t seem so bad now, does it?”

 

That was one of my last Facebook posts in general.

[silentbob]

I remember waiting for my Pepsi truck to drop off the load for me to work. I did what I could with the stock they had and opened up my phone. I remember our thread starting and asked how many people would be killed that day. I believe most of the users here said it wouldn’t happen because they were a bunch of white people. Just remember watching CNN on my phone as I waited (45mins I waited) and thinking Trump is in so much trouble. Well I guess I’m sort of right and wrong so far.

[Zaku3]

13 hours ago, SaysWho? said:

If the U.S. devolves into fascism or a second attempt is successful, yes, it'll be remembered. If we nip this shit now, it'll be an embarrassing moment in our history but one that didn't define us.

 

We get to write this chapter.

 

We are already fascist my dude. We are actively aiding and abetting genocide. 

 

If you include police into the list of defense budgets. The USA is on it twice. Once as the US military and in third as the US law enforcement. I saw that and knew why. Military occupations aren't cheap. 

 

The tyrannical government is now and the only people movtivated to actually get shit done are the fascists that just want to go all in. 

 

[SaysWho?]

6 minutes ago, Zaku3 said:

 

We are already fascist my dude. We are actively aiding and abetting genocide. 

 

If you include police into the list of defense budgets. The USA is on it twice. Once as the US military and in third as the US law enforcement. I saw that and knew why. Military occupations aren't cheap. 

 

The tyrannical government is now and the only people movtivated to actually get shit done are the fascists that just want to go all in. 

 

“a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.”

 

A lot of what you stated is just stuff you don’t agree with or categorizing things in ways I don’t agree with. Fascism is the Heritage Foundation’s proposal to centralize power in the executive branch if a Republican wins this year.

[Spawn_of_Apathy]

14 hours ago, CastletonSnob said:

Do you think Jan 6. will go down as one of the most important moments in American history, like 9/11?

Depends on how long the list is. It won’t be anywhere near 9/11 on that list though. 
 

if Donald is convicted on any of the election tampering charges the entire post election period leading up to Biden’s inauguration will likely end up getting lumped together. Like Watergate and Nixon’s impeachment and resignation. It will be what Donald’s presidency will be remembered for, more than any policy or him stacking the Supreme Court.
 

Time will tell if the fallout will have any reaching or lasting impact, but I doubt it.  

[Reputator]

1 hour ago, SaysWho? said:

“a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.”

 

A lot of what you stated is just stuff you don’t agree with or categorizing things in ways I don’t agree with. Fascism is the Heritage Foundation’s proposal to centralize power in the executive branch if a Republican wins this year.

 

Idiots calling anything they don't like fascism...

 

[marioandsonic]

17 hours ago, CastletonSnob said:

The anniversary of Jan 6 is tomorrow. Do you remember where you were when it happened? Do you think Jan 6. will go down as one of the most important moments in American history, like 9/11?

 

I was working at home at the time, and had CNN on as idiots like Ted Cruz were voting not to certify the election results.  I watched as Congress was then forced to adjourn as the mob was breaking in. 

 

Frankly, we're lucky that none were hurt/killed, but in retrospect, if someone was, then things such as the upcoming Trump trials would likely be taken a lot more seriously now.

[CastletonSnob]

I didn't watch Jan 6. as it happened. I don't even remember if I heard about it the day it happened. I didn't even watch news at the time.

 

Is that bad?

[Jason]

8 minutes ago, CastletonSnob said:

I didn't watch Jan 6. as it happened. I don't even remember if I heard about it the day it happened. I didn't even watch news at the time.

 

Is that bad?

 

RICO

[SaysWho?]

I know I had a tv on the ground, having recently moved with nowhere to put it, playing Demon’s Souls Remake when I received the notification on my phone that the US Capitol had been breached, which was not something I was expecting to get a notification for at all.
 

Maybe ever.

[Fizzzzle]

9 hours ago, Reputator said:

 

 

Seems like as good a place as any for this. I think this was a powerful, pointed speech. He went into just as many specifics as he did platitudes and I think it really hit the message home. He's not pulling any punches towards Trump.

 

 

Okay, but can we please stop with the jingoist anachronization of the "founding fathers" (another term we need to do away with, in my opinion)? The introduction of that speech had so much 'Murica boner that I cringed. "They vowed to never again bow to a King." No, the fuck they didn't. Plenty of people wanted George Washington to BE king. The American Revolution was not a fight for Democracy and the Constitution wouldn't be adopted for almost a decade after the war ended. In fact, one could argue that America only partially became independent (part of the peace deal meant American ships couldn't trade with other European countries without Britain getting first dibs, essentially still granting Britain most of their mercantilist privileges, and also Britain still regularly press ganged American sailors - two things which wouldn't get resolved until 1814) - point being, the founding fathers weren't a monolith, they weren't fighting for democracy, they weren't ordained by God, and George Washington had a lot of great qualities but also some of his fake teeth may or may not have been forcibly ripped out of the mouths of enslaved people he owned.

 

The way every politician tries to evoke the founding fathers reeks of "divine right" and I hate it every time they do it. Stop it (that's aimed at Biden, not you)

 

 

 

Sorry, that had nothing to do with this thread. On topic, @SaysWho? is right. Also I have no idea where I was on Jan. 6. I think I was at home? I remember talking about it with my roommates in our group chat, so maybe I wasn't...

[Paperclyp]

One of the more embarrassing days in our history I'd say. Hopefully history remembers it as embarrassing and very moronic on the part of anyone taking part. 

[Zaku3]

10 hours ago, SaysWho? said:

“a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.”

 

A lot of what you stated is just stuff you don’t agree with or categorizing things in ways I don’t agree with. Fascism is the Heritage Foundation’s proposal to centralize power in the executive branch if a Republican wins this year.

 

Yoo haven't forgotten you I am just sick and in and out of conciousness. I can't write so here's a video. That definition is only right in the broadest of senses.

 

 

 

[Paperclyp]

There a facets of our society that are fascist-like, but we are by no means a fascist nation in the simplest terms. 

 

Trump is using the fascist playbook overtly and it's working out pretty great for him though. 

[unogueen]

America is not really fascist but to black people internally. To the rest of the world you do very little but inflame and disrupt in wild abandon. You are chaos sowers all for the sake of the all mighty dollar.

[unogueen]

Jews weren't just sent to die. They were sent to work then die.

[stepee]

I was masturbating to amateur porn on xhamstsr on my phone and I got a news alert on my watch and I didn’t stop

[Zaku3]

4 minutes ago, unogueen said:

America is not really fascist but to black people internally. To the rest of the world you do very little but inflame and disrupt in wild abandon. You are chaos sowers all for the sake of the all mighty dollar.

 

If there are 10 people at a table and 1 is a Nazi.........

[silentbob]

11 hours ago, stepee said:

I was masturbating to amateur porn on xhamstsr on my phone and I got a news alert on my watch and I didn’t stop

 

*actually wanted the cousin Walter reaction GIF that lead to his answer, but couldn’t find

[SuperSpreader]

Pence denounces conspiracy that FBI instigated January 6 attack | CNN Politics

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Former Vice President Mike Pence on Sunday denounced the debunked conspiracy theory that the FBI instigated the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol.

 

 

[GeneticBlueprint]

No, America isn’t full blown fascist. But it, and especially the Republican Party, checks a lot of the boxes on Umberto Eco’s “You might be a fascist if…” list. 

[Ricofoley]

I remember watching ABC's coverage of it starting at about midday when it started becoming apparent that the crowd was getting out of hand.

 

I remember Martha Raddatz was doing the reporting on the ground and started looking genuinely freaked out after a while. She was never really physically threatened or anything, but people kept jumping into the background of her shots saying shit like "At least we're not destroying property like the BLM riots!" (obviously they ended up destroying a bunch of property). And at some point Chris Christie called in to say that he was going to personally call Trump to tell him to get the crowd to stand down, which obviously ended up doing absolutely nothing. And at no point did I hear anyone in the news studio bringing up QAnon or r/thedonald or any of these online spaces where there were massive warning signs that something like this was going to happen.

 

It felt like a microcosm of the entire MAGA movment, where the media is just completely blind to where the Republican party is headed and then they're first instinct is "well, we better find someone we can all agree is a Reasonable Republican and see what they have to say about this."

[TUFKAK]

I remember being at home watching what was going on utterly horrified of it. I woke up later in the day because Team USA won gold the night prior to watching the nation that supported that team fraying at the edges, was an interesting juxtaposition of emotions.

[MarSolo]

4 hours ago, Ricofoley said:

I remember watching ABC's coverage of it starting at about midday when it started becoming apparent that the crowd was getting out of hand.

 

I remember Martha Raddatz was doing the reporting on the ground and started looking genuinely freaked out after a while. She was never really physically threatened or anything, but people kept jumping into the background of her shots saying shit like "At least we're not destroying property like the BLM riots!" (obviously they ended up destroying a bunch of property). And at some point Chris Christie called in to say that he was going to personally call Trump to tell him to get the crowd to stand down, which obviously ended up doing absolutely nothing. And at no point did I hear anyone in the news studio bringing up QAnon or r/thedonald or any of these online spaces where there were massive warning signs that something like this was going to happen.

 

It felt like a microcosm of the entire MAGA movment, where the media is just completely blind to where the Republican party is headed and then they're first instinct is "well, we better find someone we can all agree is a Reasonable Republican and see what they have to say about this."

The media likes republicans because they’re good for ratings.

[Bacon]

[Greatoneshere]

On 1/6/2024 at 8:01 PM, Fizzzzle said:

Okay, but can we please stop with the jingoist anachronization of the "founding fathers" (another term we need to do away with, in my opinion)? The introduction of that speech had so much 'Murica boner that I cringed. "They vowed to never again bow to a King." No, the fuck they didn't. Plenty of people wanted George Washington to BE king. The American Revolution was not a fight for Democracy and the Constitution wouldn't be adopted for almost a decade after the war ended. In fact, one could argue that America only partially became independent (part of the peace deal meant American ships couldn't trade with other European countries without Britain getting first dibs, essentially still granting Britain most of their mercantilist privileges, and also Britain still regularly press ganged American sailors - two things which wouldn't get resolved until 1814) - point being, the founding fathers weren't a monolith, they weren't fighting for democracy, they weren't ordained by God, and George Washington had a lot of great qualities but also some of his fake teeth may or may not have been forcibly ripped out of the mouths of enslaved people he owned.

 

 

 

[Fizzzzle]

5 hours ago, Greatoneshere said:

 

 

 

I forgot about that movie, I haven't seen it since it was in theaters. I should give it a watch

[Greatoneshere]

1 hour ago, Fizzzzle said:

I forgot about that movie, I haven't seen it since it was in theaters. I should give it a watch

 

By the guy who wrote and directed Chopper (a star making Eric Bana performance) and The Assassination of Jesse James (one of the best Westerns ever made). I highly recommended it, it wasn't received well at the time but the movie is fantastic.

 

"America's not a country, it's just a business. Now fucking pay me."