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Post-election analysis from Chuck Todd:

 

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Chuck Todd: Elections lay bare the party blind spots the rest of us see

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Analysis: Tuesday's election results once again showed how Republicans are struggling on abortion. But they didn't erase Democrats' problems, either.

 

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But increasingly, it does look like the abortion position that swing voters prefer is simply a nonstarter for these crucial GOP primary voters. And yet, here they are.

 

The bottom line is this: A huge swath of voters are pro-access, and that’s the better way to describe the abortion debate these days, because for the voters, it’s about access. As long as the GOP is seen as the party trying to limit access, many swing voters, it appears, are going to consistently vote against their candidates or positions.

 

 

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This is a fairly clear-cut example of voters deeming a political party out of touch.

 

This is what the 2024 campaign could ultimately be about: a referendum on which party the voters think is more out of touch with their lives.

 

With a rematch between an unpopular president and an unpopular former president as the most likely scenario for the fall, it’s hard to picture this campaign being about anything other than a race to scare voters into believing the other choice is worse.

 

 

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Sometimes, where a poll gets published is as important as what the numbers themselves are. That’s the key takeaway from the battleground state polling The New York Times released this week, showing a potentially disastrous result for Democrats if the 2024 elections were held this week. Biden was losing in five of the six closest states from 2020, and, more alarmingly for the Democratic incumbent, he trailed by 5 points or more in four of the states. In the lone state in which he led in the poll, Wisconsin, Biden’s lead was a mere 2 points.  

 

Of course, the poll really didn’t say anything that plenty of other polls haven’t shown for six months or more. Biden has been stuck in a rut with voters for just about this entire calendar year; in fact, one could argue he still hasn’t recovered from his initial polling drop following the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan in 2021.   

 

But because so many Democratic donors and elected officials read the Times, these polls are having a bigger impact on the psyche of the donors, elected officials and activists who comprise the Democratic Party’s elite.  

 

 

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The deeper you dig into these polls, the worse news you discover for Biden. The coalition of voters he needs to win re-election is fracturing. There’s a growing multi-ethnic working-class coalition forming — but not for Biden. It’s forming for former President Donald Trump, as his support among Black and Latino voters appears to nearing or exceeding all-time highs for him. Toss in the fact that Biden continues to struggle with younger voters who believe he’s too old to serve a second term, and it’s hard to find any good news in these numbers for the sitting president. 

 

The only good news for the blue team from the poll is that a generic Democrat would lead Trump by 8 points. Translation: Democrats have a Biden problem, more than an economy or inflation problem. 

 

 

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Every single poll that has asked about Biden’s age has shown similar results as the Times poll did. An overwhelming majority are concerned about it. Look deeper into some of the other weaknesses voters see in Biden’s presidency and one can’t help but wonder if the concerns about his ability to lead on the economy or overseas are all simply derivative of the concerns about his age. It looks as if that’s the prism through which voters are judging Biden’s entire presidency. That’s a problem. And right now, they don’t seem to have a plan to deal with it.

 

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One thing Trump has going for him is that voters — even those who don’t like him — see him as a fighter, according to strategists who have been studying voter perceptions of Trump. And whatever one thinks of his other qualities, it’s true that he is a fighter, at least when it comes to the courtroom or the press or anyone he has a beef with.

 

Team Biden believes their candidate is the more authentic fighter for the little guy, but the lack of vigor in this campaign so far makes that messaging more difficult.

 

 

The part below is a REALLY salient point and one that I thoroughly agree with!

 

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Trying to limit Biden’s public interactions and public campaigning is not going to make this problem go away for the Democrats. They need to confront this head on by accepting the risk of Biden being Biden and going out in public more and letting it all hang out, warts and all.

 

The staff treats him like a Fabergé egg. If he really needs this type of protection, then maybe he shouldn’t run. But from everything I know about Biden, this isn’t the case. Yes, he’s a tad slower and his voice isn’t as strong, but if Democrats want to win, they need to get voters more comfortable with how he is, period. 

 

 

A good place to start with this type of "exposure" campaign would be to have a Town Hall-style meeting in somewhere like Michigan with Middle Eastern/Islamic Americans who feel abandoned/alienated by his administration's seemingly  unconditional support of Israel's military actions in Gaza.  Yeah, it will be rough for him, but that's the type of atmosphere he needs to engage with to start to mitigate the concerns about his age.

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33 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said:

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Wiki: “Moms for Liberty is an American far-right conservative political organization that advocates against school curricula that mention LGBTQIA+ rights, race and ethnicity, critical race theory, and discrimination. Multiple chapters have also campaigned to ban books that address gender and sexuality from school libraries.“

 

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Right-wing group ‘Moms for Liberty’ call police over library book

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Moms for Liberty was designated an ‘anti-government extremist’ organisation by the Southern Poverty Law Center in June

 

so, just a group really concerned about FREEDOM

 

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1 minute ago, Keyser_Soze said:

Abortion is sexy and brings in young voters so they shouldn't have put it on the ballot

 

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I love that. How dare young people have a say in reproductive rights!

 

Clearly old men and women who have already went through menopause are the only ones who should be deciding abortion law!

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3 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

Post-election analysis from Chuck Todd:

 

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Chuck Todd: Elections lay bare the party blind spots the rest of us see

WWW.NBCNEWS.COM
Analysis: Tuesday's election results once again showed how Republicans are struggling on abortion. But they didn't erase Democrats' problems, either.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The part below is a REALLY salient point and one that I thoroughly agree with!

 

 

A good place to start with this type of "exposure" campaign would be to have a Town Hall-style meeting in somewhere like Michigan with Middle Eastern/Islamic Americans who feel abandoned/alienated by his administration's seemingly  unconditional support of Israel's military actions in Gaza.  Yeah, it will be rough for him, but that's the type of atmosphere he needs to engage with to start to mitigate the concerns about his age.


Yeah, Biden for the most part is shockingly great with interacting with younger voters. Let him be out there more to shut down the “he has dementia” shit.

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5 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

Post-election analysis from Chuck Todd:

 

231107-joe-biden-party-blind-spots-kh-72

Chuck Todd: Elections lay bare the party blind spots the rest of us see

WWW.NBCNEWS.COM
Analysis: Tuesday's election results once again showed how Republicans are struggling on abortion. But they didn't erase Democrats' problems, either.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The part below is a REALLY salient point and one that I thoroughly agree with!

 

 

A good place to start with this type of "exposure" campaign would be to have a Town Hall-style meeting in somewhere like Michigan with Middle Eastern/Islamic Americans who feel abandoned/alienated by his administration's seemingly  unconditional support of Israel's military actions in Gaza.  Yeah, it will be rough for him, but that's the type of atmosphere he needs to engage with to start to mitigate the concerns about his age.

 

Honestly the unconditional support for Israel has made me decided to vote third party again in the next election. Fuck the Dems and Republicans. 

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49 minutes ago, UpvoteShittyTakesOnly said:


single issue voting is dumb but single issue voting the israel palestine issue is shocking

 

I'm in Indiana anyways my vote counts more for a 3rd party than it would for the Dems.

 

Edit: I find it concerning that voting against the support of genocide is shocking...

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37 minutes ago, DPCyric said:

 

I'm in Indiana anyways my vote counts more for a 3rd party than it would for the Dems.

 

Edit: I find it concerning that voting against the support of genocide is shocking...


The Republicans like more genocide though, like genociding blacks, gays, trans, etc. 

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43 minutes ago, DPCyric said:

 

I'm in Indiana anyways my vote counts more for a 3rd party than it would for the Dems.

 

Edit: I find it concerning that voting against the support of genocide is shocking...

 

Hasn't the Democratic Party always been supportive of Israel? Israel is considered an ally same as any other ally, I always thought.

 

I'm supportive of a ceasefire in the Middle East considering the difference in lives lost between the original terrorist attack and the response since then; many innocent Palestinian civilans are dead now and didn't have to be by many times the number of innocent Israeali who died and didn't have to. And I've been reading there's been progress in that direction.

 

But I don't know if I'd be on-board with not supporting Israel after the Hamas attack considering it was a terrorist attack through and through. I have Jewish friends who are pro-Israel who were also pro-Black Lives Matter and they were stunned and outraged with BLM Chicago posted the pro-Hamas picture with the people parachuting in. 

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1 minute ago, Spork3245 said:

My chud-filled township just voted in a Dem for Mayor and BOTH Dems that were on the ticket for Township Council, all by high margins. I legitimately cannot remember the last time a Democrat won in my town, let alone winning everything on the ballot.

We don't do hope on this board!

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16 minutes ago, Spork3245 said:

My chud-filled township just voted in a Dem for Mayor and BOTH Dems that were on the ticket for Township Council, all by high margins. I legitimately cannot remember the last time a Democrat won in my town, let alone winning everything on the ballot.


Town elections are different from a presidental election decided by electorates. South Carolina hasn’t voted for a democrat since Carter, and this state is full of MAGA chuds

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19 minutes ago, Spork3245 said:

My chud-filled township just voted in a Dem for Mayor and BOTH Dems that were on the ticket for Township Council, all by high margins. I legitimately cannot remember the last time a Democrat won in my town, let alone winning everything on the ballot.

Local elections are partisan? 

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People are way too fucking precious about their vote. The vote is a statement of preference of one candidate over the other, not a statement of support of every single policy position they hold.

 

You can vote for a less than ideal candidate one day and use the other 364 days a year to press and advocate on those positions you have an issue with.

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1 hour ago, ThreePi said:

People are way too fucking precious about their vote. The vote is a statement of preference of one candidate over the other, not a statement of support of every single policy position they hold.

 

You can vote for a less than ideal candidate one day and use the other 364 days a year to press and advocate on those positions you have an issue with.


No, one must love it or leave it. 

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Spokane and other WA elections offices halt ballot counting, evacuate over white powder

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Washington's three most populous counties – King, Pierce and Spokane – stopped counting ballots and evacuated elections workers Wednesday when a suspicious white substance was found in envelopes.

The Democratic challenger for mayor of Spokane (the 2nd biggest city in Washington) is currently up 3%, but they had to delay the count because somebody mailed fentanyl to the election office. 

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