Pastor alarmed after Trump-loving congregants deride Jesus’ teachings as “weak”

[Kamusha]

Pastor alarmed after Trump-loving congregants deride Jesus' teachings as 'weak' - Raw Story - Celebrating 19 Years of Independent Journalism

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Evangelicals for year have show with their actions that they do not value the teachings of Jesus, but now many are outright saying it.

[TUFKAK]

I mean same but Lolol 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Their real lord and savior is white supremacy 

 

which is real unlike god so 

[TUFKAK]

1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Their real lord and savior is white supremacy 

 

which is real unlike god so 

Any casual observation of D1 football will dispel the notion of “white supremacy” as well.

[Chairslinger]

Or in other words, I like Gods that don't get crucified.

 

Who could ever have foreseen that this would be the result of making Donald Trump the leader of your party.

 

Honestly, it's been an incongruity between the party and religion for a while now, but neither group has a problem with hypocrisy so it has mostly worked. It was Trump's "Why bother hiding it" mindset for all the GOP's worst impulses that made it so that his followers find little reason to hide it anymore.

[mclumber1]

Donald Trump fits the definition of the antichrist, and stories like this really drive that home for me.  Evangelicals are literally falling for the dude the bible warned them about.

[ort]

Any Christian who voted for Trump is not a Christian. They may pretend to be one,  it they are not one. The teachings of Christ are in direct conflict with the modern day Republican Party. You cannot be both. 

[Bacon]

mfers never seent real jesus

[Jason]

21 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

Donald Trump fits the definition of the antichrist, and stories like this really drive that home for me.  Evangelicals are literally falling for the dude the bible warned them about.

 

lol like they've actually read the bible

[Chairslinger]

4 minutes ago, Bacon said:

mfers never seent real jesus

 

 

And then Jesus waterboarded the Romans for fucking with him.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

31 minutes ago, TUFKAK said:

Any casual observation of D1 football will dispel the notion of “white supremacy” as well.

Man I remember when QBs were basically never black (because they weren’t recruited among other reasons) and that was used as proof that whites were “better” or whatever (usually by some guy who hadn’t seen his dick in decades)

[Ghost_MH]

22 minutes ago, ort said:

Any Christian who voted for Trump is not a Christian. They may pretend to be one,  it they are not one. The teachings of Christ are in direct conflict with the modern day Republican Party. You cannot be both. 

 

Reminds me of the Christian magazine editor that was, running up to the 2016 election, pretty much chased off the magazine for writing an editorial about how Christians were selling out their faith for Supreme Court seats.

[Xbob42]

1 hour ago, TUFKAK said:

Any casual observation of D1 football will dispel the notion of “white supremacy” as well.

Not entirely sure if using an example of black people as entertainment for the masses counters the goals of white supremacists very well...

[thewhyteboar]

Look, Jesus needs a new Rolex and a private jet so if you could just continue to tithe then I promise you’ll get to the next level of heaven. 

[TUFKAK]

4 minutes ago, Xbob42 said:

Not entirely sure if using an example of black people as entertainment for the masses counters the goals of white supremacists very well...

It does when you consider white peoples try to as well and fail.

[Xbob42]

Just now, TUFKAK said:

It does when you consider white peoples try to as well and fail.

 

I feel like they would use some pretty gross counter-examples to that.

[Bacon]

20 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said:

Look, Jesus needs a new Rolex and a private jet so if you could just continue to tithe then I promise you’ll get to the next level of heaven. 

[TUFKAK]

38 minutes ago, Xbob42 said:

 

I feel like they would use some pretty gross counter-examples to that.

Oh I’m sure they would, but they excel at failing so their opinions mean less than the bandwidth im using to convey their failure.

[unogueen]

Jesus isn't the bible. The bible is hateful as hell.

[Mr.Vic20]

'Merica loves Jesus with his finger on the button! 

[MarSolo]

I think the turning point for me when it came to Christians was when Trump was asked his favorite Bible quote and he clearly couldn’t name one so he made up a bullshit excuse of “that’s a very private matter for me” and they were totally okay with it. 
 

Wasn’t there a town hall recently where he was asked about his faith and he gave a bullshit answer?

[Chairslinger]

22 minutes ago, MarSolo said:

I think the turning point for me when it came to Christians was when Trump was asked his favorite Bible quote and he clearly couldn’t name one so he made up a bullshit excuse of “that’s a very private matter for me” and they were totally okay with it. 
 

Wasn’t there a town hall recently where he was asked about his faith and he gave a bullshit answer?

 

 

Not sure about recently, but a classic from 2016.....

 

Two Corinthians instead of 2nd Corinthians.

 

Like he thought it was Corinthians 2: Electric Boogaloo

[Kal-El814]

8 hours ago, Bacon said:

mfers never seent real jesus

@TUFKAK physique critique please

[Kamusha]

6 hours ago, unogueen said:

Jesus isn't the bible. The bible is hateful as hell.

The Bible makes more sense when you view it as a large collection of books written by different authors in different time periods, chosen to be grouped together by religious leaders for political reasons, and not as a singular work.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

LOL "Protestants" LOL

[thewhyteboar]

49 minutes ago, Chairslinger said:

 

 

Not sure about recently, but a classic from 2016.....

 

Two Corinthians instead of 2nd Corinthians.

 

Like he thought it was Corinthians 2: Electric Boogaloo

He misspoke. He didn't mean Two Corinthians, he meant Two Princes:

 

[PaladinSolo]

You mean people who think its their god given right to blow anyone away who slightly inconveniences them or puts 1 foot on their land aren't actually followers of christ but just programmed to believe they are?

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

24 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said:

You mean people who think its their god given right to blow anyone away who slightly inconveniences them or puts 1 foot on their land aren't actually followers of christ but just programmed to believe they are?

Don’t forget they think that mere belief does away with their sins

[TUFKAK]

1 hour ago, Kal-El814 said:

@TUFKAK physique critique please

Flat chest, lat inserts are too high, arms are disproportionate to the bis, no thigh sweep, blocky torso, delts are underdeveloped 

 

can’t see his back but guarantee it’s lacking width due to those shit lats.

 

No pro card for this guy

 

 

[CayceG]

The pastor in question is Russel Moore, an ex-Southern Baptist who had been the head of an entity within the Southern Baptist Convention before being forced out for criticizing Trump. He's definitely a moderate in the Baptist tradition, but he was still Southern Baptist and upheld most of the standard tenets of its belief system that created this monster.

 

He can be surprised and shocked and saddened and everything else. But he helped make the leopards who ate his face. 

 

 

[Kamusha]

On 8/11/2023 at 9:54 AM, CayceG said:

The pastor in question is Russel Moore, an ex-Southern Baptist who had been the head of an entity within the Southern Baptist Convention before being forced out for criticizing Trump. He's definitely a moderate in the Baptist tradition, but he was still Southern Baptist and upheld most of the standard tenets of its belief system that created this monster.

 

He can be surprised and shocked and saddened and everything else. But he helped make the leopards who ate his face. 

 

 

 

I agree that he's complicit but someone leaving a cult and speaking out against it is always a good thing. If we want more Christians to speak out against Trump we can't immediately admonish them for not speaking out sooner. I'm not saying we should give him a medal and treat him like an hero, but creating a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario is not going to encourage anyone to leave and speak out.

[SaysWho?]

This part from the original NPR interview was interesting:

 

He was a top church official who criticized Trump. He says Christianity is in crisis

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Russell Moore criticized Donald Trump and the Southern Baptist Convention's response to a sexual abuse crisis. Then he found himself on the outside.

 

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It was the result of having multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount, parenthetically, in their preaching — "turn the other cheek" — [and] to have someone come up after to say, "Where did you get those liberal talking points?" And what was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, "I'm literally quoting Jesus Christ," the response would not be, "I apologize." The response would be, "Yes, but that doesn't work anymore. That's weak." And when we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we're in a crisis.

 

[Nokra]

I long ago lost my religious beliefs, but Trump absolutely fits the bill of the antichrist. It's amazing, but not surprising, that chuds can't see it. 

[unogueen]

It's not about redemption. He's a canary in the mine.

[Kamusha]

1 hour ago, unogueen said:

It's not about redemption. He's a canary in the mine.

 

100% this. Like, yes, this guy does suck and is still pretty conservative. But the the fact that sucky people like him are alarmed by what's happening is an indication that the evangelical movement is becoming more and more extremist.