Zaku3 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I am guess that the actual counting of mail-in votes for many states will take weeks. Now, it could be that Biden comes out so far ahead that the remaining states don't matter...but I don't think that's likely (I think that he'll win, but it will be tighter than the polls are now). So, the day after election day, when no official winner is called (but we are simply waiting for votes to be counted), how likely is it for Trump and his allies to declare the results rigged or invalid, based on those delays? I think it's pretty likely. It's ridiculous, of course, since elections did often taken many days and weeks to tabulate prior to instant communication across the continent. Just because something takes time, that does not make it less valid. But Trump's supports are very dumb, and they are used to elections being called almost instantly, so I think they would go along with it and we're going to have a situation where around 30-35% of the country will agree that the results aren't legal. Most likely outcome if he loses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 who will be the first ghoul to go along with the delay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 Everyone on board the "Distract from GDP report" train. Choo choo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 38 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: This is his signal that he's going to reject the results of the election should he lose. He still rejects the results of the election he WON, why wouldn't he reject a loss? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/24/joe-biden-accused-trump-trying-delay-election-he-should-know-better/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Firewithin said: who will be the first ghoul to go along with the delay? Ted Cruz or Lindsey Graham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 48 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: This is his signal that he's going to reject the results of the election should he lose. ... we were waiting for a signal to know he was going to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Ted Cruz or Lindsey Graham. Lady G was my first guess as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Love something like republican spokespersons love getting contradicted by their boss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 57 minutes ago, Firewithin said: who will be the first ghoul to go along with the delay? Joe Biden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chairslinger Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Within a week it will be accepted political reality that it is an open question whether or not Trump can delay the election. 2 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Everyone on board the "Distract from GDP report" train. Choo choo! Nothing against you personally man, but these types of posts have become to me like claims of hypocrisy are to Wade. Calling out the distraction does not rob it of it's power. 9 times out of 10 the "distraction" is something that is serious enough that it deserves attention as much as the thing as it's supposedly distracting from. 2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I remember I tried a while back to actually game out what it would look like if Trump decided to run for a third term. It started out as a pessimistic half joke, but the more I actually considered the nuts and bolts of it the more I worried it is a legitimate concern. Despite the assurances of some that it would be impossible, I came the conclusion that there's a good chance it would simply come down to how much other Republicans were willing to support him if he tried. I have a feeling that delaying the election and/or denying the results have similar endgames. Pompeo's statement already hints that they may be looking into a defacto delay with some kind of court challenge that stretches beyond Nov. 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Ive always thought, and still think, the biggest issue will be trumps stormroopers going to majority black neighborhoods and polling places in swing states to terrorize and intimidate enforce the voting rights act, but as an added bonus now fucking with the goddamn mail (selectively fucked with mind you) to hurt absentee voting in these same neighborhoods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: Nothing against you personally man, but these types of posts have become to me like claims of hypocrisy are to Wade. Calling out the distraction does not rob it of it's power. 9 times out of 10 the "distraction" is something that is serious enough that it deserves attention as much as the thing as it's supposedly distracting from. We've already seen that the number of things people can pay attention to are limited. More people care about a bad economy, unrest in the nation, and 150k COVID deaths than a Trump tweet about something he can't do. He timed it out about 10 or 15 minutes after the GDP news. You're falling for it. The things I mentioned are more important than his stupid tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 The Imbecile may be limited in what he can do directly, but he's laying the groundwork for GOP secretaries of state to withhold cerification of their state results and throwing them to the courts with the resulting political and economic chaos that will ensue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: We've already seen that the number of things people can pay attention to are limited. More people care about a bad economy, unrest in the nation, and 150k COVID deaths than a Trump tweet about something he can't do. He timed it out about 10 or 15 minutes after the GDP news. You're falling for it. The things I mentioned are more important than his stupid tweet. What people "care about" really only even vaguely matters if a free and fair election actually occurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: What people "care about" really only even vaguely matters if a free and fair election actually occurs. Congress has that power, not him. And he ain't doing shit; he sent that tweet 15 minutes after the GDP report dropped to distract you, and it's working magnificently. Choo choo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Acting like this is an immediate-term distraction from the economic numbers seems like it's missing the point given that it references the clearly longer setup here on destroying the Post Office to give him a basis for whining that the mail-in votes are taking forever to come in and that there's something fishy about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Acting like this is an immediate-term distraction from the economic numbers I'm sure the timing is coincidental. 3 minutes ago, Jason said: seems like it's missing the point given that it references the clearly longer setup here on destroying the Post Office to give him a basis for whining that the mail-in votes are taking forever to come in and that there's something fishy about that. Then make it about the post office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: The Imbecile may be limited in what he can do directly, but he's laying the groundwork for GOP secretaries of state to withhold cerification of their state results and throwing them to the courts with the resulting political and economic chaos that will ensue. This isn't a real concern. AZ, MI, WI, MN, ME, NH, and NC have either a democratic SoS or Board of Elections. As far as I can tell, GA, TX, OH, IA, FL, and NV are republicans, with WA and OR as republicans as well. OR and WA won't be close, and already do universal vote by mail, and if anything is close enough I doubt these Dem swing state SoS's will bow to trumps demands and not certify the election results, and their states would be enough for Biden to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Its a really obvious distraction from the GDP numbers, Trump isn't playing some complicated game here, the USPS destruction is just a GOP thing they've been trying to do for decades. No one is asking GOP congressional members about GDP numbers atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 30, 2020 Author Share Posted July 30, 2020 Think of it this way: we're simultaneously saying that he's playing this clever long game, hurting the post office to make mail-in more difficult (there's already a too-high rejection rate, so it seems more plausible to me that this would encourage Republicans to vote in-person to be rejected less often, if anything), and then dispute the election if he's leading, and hand this off to GOP SoS, yet despite this being a large plan with plenty of moving parts, he decides to blurt out postponing the election. And coincidentally right after news that we just had the worst GDP report on record and he wanted to run on the economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MarSolo Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 At least my political podcasts won’t be boring tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Chairslinger said: Within a week it will be accepted political reality that it is an open question whether or not Trump can delay the election "The President says that for our own safety, the election should be postponed. Some of his critics disagree." - NYT Headline tomorrow. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Trump supporters: "He was clearly saying this in jest. It's a joke!" Trump: Pins this tweet to the top of his Twitter page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Trump supporters: "He was clearly saying this in jest. It's a joke!" Trump: Pins this tweet to the top of his Twitter page. Trump: Manages to get election postponed. Trump supporters: It was the only thing that could be done given the circumstances. He is trying to save us from the radical left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Jason said: Acting like this is an immediate-term distraction from the economic numbers seems like it's missing the point given that it references the clearly longer setup here on destroying the Post Office to give him a basis for whining that the mail-in votes are taking forever to come in and that there's something fishy about that. @SaysWho? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 years lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Fuck these fucking pieces of shit. Get fucked with a rusty knife 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thewhyteboar Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Fuck these fucking pieces of shit. Get fucked with a rusty knife If those ghouls do turn on Trump, it will only be because they don't want to get dragged down by his loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 You know what's going to be great? Trump's supporters insisting it's not safe to hold the election...while at the same time also insisting the pandemic is no big deal. "I have the right to go to the bar! But it's not safe to let people vote!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Jason said: I am concerned cuz he is a loud mouth and that find out the ballots are missing is pretty specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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