CitizenVectron Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Definitely great news...but Canada is at like 89% vaccination (of eligible population). I guess it could be useful as a kind of mixed booster in the future? And unless it's approved for kids <12, Pfizer is going to beat them to the punch in the next few weeks. However, I suppose if it's approved in Canada (and Canada doesn't need the pre-ordered amounts), then those doses can be shipped to other nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Definitely great news...but Canada is at like 89% vaccination (of eligible population). I guess it could be useful as a kind of mixed booster in the future? And unless it's approved for kids <12, Pfizer is going to beat them to the punch in the next few weeks. However, I suppose if it's approved in Canada (and Canada doesn't need the pre-ordered amounts), then those doses can be shipped to other nations. Yeaj I doubt many Canadians will get the shot, but the important thing is that these countries approve it so third world countries follow their lead and start using it. Its also almost certainly going to be the booster shot of choice in the future if this all works out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, Joe said: Yeaj I doubt many Canadians will get the shot, but the important thing is that these countries approve it so third world countries follow their lead and start using it. Its also almost certainly going to be the booster shot of choice in the future if this all works out Why would it be the booster shot of choice? I'm not that educated on this particular vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Why would it be the booster shot of choice? I'm not that educated on this particular vaccine. A combination of only needing to be refrigerated, very strong efficacy on par with mRNA, and the lowest side effect profile of all the vaccines. mRNA is getting a ton of hype right now and rightfully so, but Novavax’s breakthrough on basically reinventing the protein vaccine (the flu shot is a protein vaccine) is just as huge if they can get the damn thing in production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Firewithin Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, Jason said: A Disney prison? Branding deals have gone too far 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Firewithin said: A Disney prison? Branding deals have gone too far Its just a Kingdomhearts LARP, nothing to see here... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Flu, cancer, HIV: after Covid success, what next for mRNA vaccines? | Medical research | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM The technology was viewed with scepticism before the pandemic but there is now growing confidence about its use Quote It is one of the most remarkable success stories of the pandemic: the unproven technology that delivered the Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines in record time, helping to turn the tide on Covid-19. The vaccines are based on mRNA, the molecule that instructs our cells to make specific proteins. By injecting synthetic mRNA, our cells are turned into on-demand vaccine factories, pumping out any protein we want our immune system to learn to recognise and destroy. Pre-pandemic, the technology was viewed with scepticism – a clever concept, but not guaranteed to deliver. Now there is growing confidence that mRNA vaccines could have far-reaching applications in tackling diseases from flu to malaria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Herpes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 33 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: Herpes Getting vaccines for basically all the STDs would be game changing. I do wonder though would a vaccine also work as a cure for people who already have one of the "for life" diseases like herpes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 39 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: Herpes I've been lead to believe that herpes can be cured simply by driving a Jeep and being part of an ever smiling, multi-ethic, outdoors club, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: I've been lead to believe that herpes can be cured simply by driving a Jeep and being part of an ever smiling, multi-ethic, outdoors club, no? I was just asking for a friend! No need for accusations! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Brick said: Getting vaccines for basically all the STDs would be game changing. I do wonder though would a vaccine also work as a cure for people who already have one of the "for life" diseases like herpes? The mid-21st-Century will be known as the Age of Fuck. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Global Covid-19 death toll passes 5m | Coronavirus | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM US, Brazil, India, Mexico and the UK together account for more than half of total, which is based on official figures Quote The global death toll from Covid-19 has passed 5 million, 19 months after the pandemic was first declared, according to figures released by Johns Hopkins University. Some experts, including those from the World Health Organization, believe the true toll may be two to three times higher than official figures suggest. The number of deaths from Covid-19 far outstrip that of other viral epidemics in the 21st century and most from the 20th century, with the notable exception of the Spanish flu. The US, Brazil, India, Mexico and the UK together account for more than half of all deaths worldwide. And remember that this is most assuredly a significant undercount from Brazil and India. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Global Covid-19 death toll passes 5m | Coronavirus | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM US, Brazil, India, Mexico and the UK together account for more than half of total, which is based on official figures And remember that this is most assuredly a significant undercount from Brazil and India. I would include the US in that, as well (though not to the same extent). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I would include the US in that, as well (though not to the same extent). Tracking covid-19 excess deaths across countries | The Economist WWW.ECONOMIST.COM In many parts of the world, official death tolls undercount the total number of fatalities You only would because of your own biases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Flu, cancer, HIV: after Covid success, what next for mRNA vaccines? | Medical research | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM The technology was viewed with scepticism before the pandemic but there is now growing confidence about its use Let me know if they develop a vaccine for obesity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Tracking covid-19 excess deaths across countries | The Economist WWW.ECONOMIST.COM In many parts of the world, official death tolls undercount the total number of fatalities You only would because of your own biases That data looks like it kinda looks like it proves his point and that the US is pretty severely underestimating its COVID deaths by as much as 185k and that was just to the end of August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 32 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Tracking covid-19 excess deaths across countries | The Economist WWW.ECONOMIST.COM In many parts of the world, official death tolls undercount the total number of fatalities You only would because of your own biases As I said, the US is certainly not on the same level as the aforementioned countries in terms of underreporting deaths, but it's certainly been underreporting them. The excess deaths don't match up to the official stats. It's not as bad as some places, but there (at a minimum) hundreds of thousands of deaths not officially counted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iculus Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Let me know if they develop a vaccine for obesity It's called Adderall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iculus Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, PaladinSolo said: I was gonna go with Meth. Adderall is meth. I went from 240 to 175 without changing a single habit. It wasn't even a high dose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: As I said, the US is certainly not on the same level as the aforementioned countries in terms of underreporting deaths, but it's certainly been underreporting them. The excess deaths don't match up to the official stats. It's not as bad as some places, but there (at a minimum) hundreds of thousands of deaths not officially counted. Percentages matter in this context more than the nominal numbers. But even if you want to focus on the nominal amount the US adds, you aren’t adding to the global total more than 3% if the US were the only undercounting nation. But the reason this is really just an issue of your biases at play is you can find many other nations who would add a large nominal number but also have higher percentages of undercounting than the US, yet the US is the only country you bother to name. It’s just amusing how obsessed you are with trashing America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 41 minutes ago, Iculus said: Adderall is meth. I went from 240 to 175 without changing a single habit. It wasn't even a high dose. Desoxyn is meth. Adderall is just an amphetamine cocktail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 I mentioned it because this is a US-centric forum, and the US already has the highest reported death rate. If you haven't noticed, I trash my own province as much (if not more) than the US here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Percentages matter in this context more than the nominal numbers. But even if you want to focus on the nominal amount the US adds, you aren’t adding to the global total more than 3% if the US were the only undercounting nation. But the reason this is really just an issue of your biases at play is you can find many other nations who would add a large nominal number but also have higher percentages of undercounting than the US, yet the US is the only country you bother to name. It’s just amusing how obsessed you are with trashing America Time to trash Russia, Egypt, Iran and Mexico! More seriously, interesting to see Canada having reported Covid deaths higher than excess deaths, I wonder what is causing that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iculus Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said: Desoxyn is meth. Adderall is just a amphetamine cocktail once the drugs are processed it is a distinction without a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Iculus said: once the drugs are processed it is a distinction without a difference. Meth is definitely more additive. There is a reason why its only prescribed as a last resort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 40 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Time to trash Russia, Egypt, Iran and Mexico! More seriously, interesting to see Canada having reported Covid deaths higher than excess deaths, I wonder what is causing that... My understanding (though limited) is that non-COVID deaths were significantly lower in Canada in 2020/2021 than in normal years. This is claimed to have been taken into account for most of these excess death studies, but it's possible it's not granular enough. The one exception to this is overdose deaths, which are up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: My understanding (though limited) is that non-COVID deaths were significantly lower in Canada in 2020/2021 than in normal years. This is claimed to have been taken into account for most of these excess death studies, but it's possible it's not granular enough. The one exception to this is overdose deaths, which are up. That is what the math would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Brick said: Getting vaccines for basically all the STDs would be game changing. I do wonder though would a vaccine also work as a cure for people who already have one of the "for life" diseases like herpes? If we had vaccines for STD's I'd be dead within a year. Straight up. Heart failure or something... I have no idea how our parents survived the 60's... and 70's... and 80's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 My daughter tested positive for Covid. She went to the doctors to get tested for RSV since her classmate tested positive for it, which she did as well. Now her whole day care class has to quarantine. I feel terrible even though I am pretty sure she got it at day care. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 32 minutes ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: My daughter tested positive for Covid. She went to the doctors to get tested for RSV since her classmate tested positive for it, which she did as well. Now her whole day care class has to quarantine. I feel terrible even though I am pretty sure she got it at day care. Poor kiddo, but take heart, she is likely to be totally fine But nothing worse for a parent then when your babies are sick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: The mid-21st-Century will be known as the Age of Fuck. It better be because the Summer of Fuck sure as shit didn't happen this year! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 33 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Poor kiddo, but take heart, she is likely to be totally fine But nothing worse for a parent then when your babies are sick! She seems fine. Still playing and throwing tantrums. I feel bad for the other parents that are now forced to have their kid home. The positive is from a rapid test so we are doing a PCR tomorrow to confirm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: She seems fine. Still playing and throwing tantrums. I feel bad for the other parents that are now forced to have their kid home. The positive is from a rapid test so we are doing a PCR tomorrow to confirm. So she has RSV and Covid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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