AbsolutSurgen Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Air_Delivery said: While I get what the WHO is saying, each country is gonna look out for no.1 first especially with new variants on the horizon. You don't wanna start boosters after a new vaccine resistant strain is found. More than anything there needs to be a more formal collaboration between countries to get poor countries vaccinated. Yes. You're right. The fundamental problem with the WHO, is that they are focused on redistributing the vaccines that are already being manufactured, rather than coordinating increased production of vaccines. I can see a scenario where everyone needs a new booster, EVERY YEAR for the forseeable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 29 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: rather than coordinating increased production of vaccines. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I think the production of vaccines are good right now. There just needs to be more coordination on allocation and distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 We definitely need more vaccine production Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Antivaxers Think Their ‘Pure’ Semen Will Skyrocket in Value WWW.VICE.COM There's no scientific truth in the meme that unvaccinated sperm is more pure or safe than that from people who've been vaccinated against COVID-19. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Air_Delivery said: I think the production of vaccines are good right now. There just needs to be more coordination on allocation and distribution. No. We are billions of doses short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 7 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: that we don't have dozens of these tests in each household, provided for free or very low cost, is criminal While nice that they exist how many people are able to willingly jam them all the way into the back of their skulls themselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I did a home test once. I got DEEP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, thewhyteboar said: I did a home test once. I got DEEP. @Commissar SFLUFAN went deeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: I did a home test once. I got DEEP. Did you put that ass to sleep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Did you put that ass to sleep? Look, I thought the directions said to swap anally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 38 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: While nice that they exist how many people are able to willingly jam them all the way into the back of their skulls themselves? Enough, probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Look, I thought the directions said to swap anally. It's probably the most effective way it's just that they can't do it in those big drive thru lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Jay Inslee would have been a good president. And this puts the dumbass WSU coach on the hot seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 38 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: And this puts the dumbass WSU coach on the hot seat. Didn't realize the pirate king desires SEC speed now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 My favorite thing about these anti vaxxers is when asked why they didn't get vaccinated it was for deeply personal reasons. No its just they know its gonna sound stupid and they don't want to be mocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Man Hospitalized After Taking Livestock Ivermectin From Feed Store For COVID-19 WWW.MISSISSIPPIFREEPRESS.ORG At least one individual has been hospitalized in Mississippi after injecting ivermectin intended for treating worms in livestock, the Mississippi State Department of Health revealed today. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I don’t understand the logic of these people. If it’s good enough for a horse, it’s good enough for me? If Fox could keep a fucking pandemic story straight, they could help a fuck ton of people. Sadly they all probably have stock in this Ivermectin shit, and nothing speaks louder then a bigger bank account to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 More evidence that Vaccines are better at reducing Hospitalization than infection. (Keep in mind that they haven't adjusted for age in the relative populations -- older/at-risk people are more likely to be vaccinated.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Quote There is currently no evidence that SARS-CoV-2 has a laboratory origin. There is no evidence that any early cases had any connection to the WIV, in contrast to the clear epidemiological links to animal markets in Wuhan, nor evidence that the WIV possessed or worked on a progenitor of SARS-CoV-2 prior to the pandemic. The suspicion that SARS-CoV-2 might have a laboratory origin stems from the coincidence that it was first detected in a city that houses a major virological laboratory that studies coronaviruses. Wuhan is the largest city in central China with multiple animal markets and is a major hub for travel and commerce, well connected to other areas both within China and internationally. The link to Wuhan therefore more likely reflects the fact that pathogens often require heavily populated areas to become established (Pekar et al., 2021). We contend that although the animal reservoir for SARS-CoV-2 has not been identified and the key species may not have been tested, in contrast to other scenarios there is substantial body of scientific evidence supporting a zoonotic origin. While the possibility of a laboratory accident cannot be entirely dismissed, and may be near impossible to falsify, this conduit for emergence is highly unlikely relative to the numerous and repeated human-animal contacts that occur routinely in the wildlife trade. Failure to comprehensively investigate the zoonotic origin through collaborative and carefully coordinated studies would leave the world vulnerable to future pandemics arising from the same human activities that have repeatedly put us on a collision course with novel viruses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Their argument primarily boils down to "most historical pandemics came from zoonotic spillover, so this one probably did too." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 16 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Their argument primarily boils down to "most historical pandemics came from zoonotic spillover, so this one probably did too." There's more to it than that if you read the paper, but that is an argument made (because it's not wrong!) I just posted a clip from the conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: There's more to it than that if you read the paper, but that is an argument made (because it's not wrong!) I just posted a clip from the conclusion. I read the paper. They're not really providing any compelling evidence -- its all completely circumstantial. From their paper: Quote No bat reservoir nor intermediate animal host for SARS-CoV-2 has been identified to date. This is presumably because the right animal species and/or populations have not yet been sampled and/or any progenitor virus may be at low prevalence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pickle Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 16 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Antivaxers Think Their ‘Pure’ Semen Will Skyrocket in Value WWW.VICE.COM There's no scientific truth in the meme that unvaccinated sperm is more pure or safe than that from people who've been vaccinated against COVID-19. Stupidity can be genetic. Good way for people to weed out the dumbass sperm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: I read the paper. They're not really providing any compelling evidence -- its all completely circumstantial. From their paper: Now quote the rest of the paragraph with some important context: Quote Initial cross-species transmission events are also very likely to go undetected. Most SARS-CoV-2 index case infections will not have resulted in sustained onward transmission (Pekar et al., 2021) and only a very small fraction of spillovers from animals to humans result in major outbreaks. Indeed, the animal origins of many well-known human pathogens, including Ebola virus, Hepatitis C virus, poliovirus, and the coronaviruses HCoV-HKU1 and HCoV-NL63, are yet to be identified, while it took over a decade to discover bat viruses with >95% similarity to SARS-CoV and able to use hACE-2 as a receptor (Hu et al., 2017) Further there's also no evidence of related viruses being worked on at WIV and the article also answers why specific scenarios that would indicate a lab leak have no evidence for them. Lastly, Quote Under any laboratory escape scenario SARS-CoV-2 would have to have been present in a laboratory prior to the pandemic, yet no evidence exists to support such a notion and no sequence has been identified that could have served as a precursor. Lab origin isn't fully ruled out but it seems very highly unlikely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 A lot of fucking around and finding out going on with the GOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 minute ago, thewhyteboar said: A lot of fucking around and finding out going on with the GOP. I don't think that applies in this case as he was fully vaccinated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I don't think that applies in this case as he was fully vaccinated. Republicans have intentionally turned states like Mississippi into cesspools of corona. Thus it's no surprise that they are in turn becoming infected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Republicans have intentionally turned states like Mississippi into cesspools of corona. Thus it's no surprise that they are in turn becoming infected. At this point, it's the slop the pigs want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Normal place: As COVID surges, Texas Attorney General asks people to rat out municipalities requiring masks WWW.SACURRENT.COM As legal battles intensify between Gov. Greg Abbott and municipalities who push back against his order banning local mask mandates, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Normal place: As COVID surges, Texas Attorney General asks people to rat out municipalities requiring masks WWW.SACURRENT.COM As legal battles intensify between Gov. Greg Abbott and municipalities who push back against his order banning local mask mandates, Texas Attorney General Ken... What was he indicted for again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 If North Texas runs out of ICU hospital beds, doctors can consider a patient’s vaccination status WWW.DALLASNEWS.COM The Watchdog reveals a worst-case scenario plan devised by area doctors. In the event of no ICU beds available, vaccination status could be used as part of... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaxick Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 11 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: If North Texas runs out of ICU hospital beds, doctors can consider a patient’s vaccination status WWW.DALLASNEWS.COM The Watchdog reveals a worst-case scenario plan devised by area doctors. In the event of no ICU beds available, vaccination status could be used as part of... Hope this is the first of many medical networks out there to make such a decision. Plenty of medical professionals are losing patience in dealing with the unvaccinated and by no means should they take a bed opposed to somebody who was responsible or is there for other reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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