Guest Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, Firewithin said: Oh cool. Let's pack it up and go home then A scene in which I find myself hating everybody involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, sblfilms said: Background investigations and criminal investigations aren’t the same thing. The FBI was always hamstrung by this just being a background investigation. But Flake and Collins got the cover they needed. Background investigations do not normally have such tight proscriptions placed on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 33 minutes ago, Firewithin said: Oh cool. Let's pack it up and go home then I didn't have high hopes for this whole process to begin with, but what depresses me here in the big picture may be how the GOP men are tipping their hand of how they will be moving foward. They aren't going to be magnanimous, let alone remorseful. They are going to be gloating, dismissive, and likely more and more pushing an all out narrative of Ford being Nutty and Slutty going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 What are the odds that he could be removed if, after his confirmation, further evidence comes to light? And is that about the best we can hope for at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nokra said: What are the odds that he could be removed if, after his confirmation, further evidence comes to light? And is that about the best we can hope for at this point? He would either have to resign voluntarily, or the Senate would have to remove him, which requires 66 votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Nokra said: What are the odds that he could be removed if, after his confirmation, further evidence comes to light? And is that about the best we can hope for at this point? Probably have a better shot at increasing the number of SC justices to 11... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jason said: Background investigations do not normally have such tight proscriptions placed on them. Sure, but they still aren’t one in the same and we never would get what people are wanting out of the call for an investigation. 5 minutes ago, Nokra said: What are the odds that he could be removed if, after his confirmation, further evidence comes to light? And is that about the best we can hope for at this point? Outside of irrefutable proof of these claims, the odds are exactly zero. Which makes the odds exactly zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodimus Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 GOP is ready to ram Kav through no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 5 hours ago, SaysWho? said: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/should-sex-harassment-charges-disqualify-political-candidate-56-percent-republicans-n916021 Party of family values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Sure, but they still aren’t one in the same and Outside of irrefutable proof of these claims, the odds are exactly zero. Which makes the odds exactly zero. Even with irrefutable evidence, I don't think you would get enough Republican support if Dems control the Senate and/or White House. They would probably play the same game Trump does now. His accusers were known during the election, so the very fact that he won is a stamp of legitimacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Not that conservatives listen to John Paul Stevens, but what he says is what I believe some of the other justices probably think who want the court to at least not look like it acts politically. Retired U.S. Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens, a lifelong Republican, told a small crowd in Boca Raton that Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s performance at confirmation hearings should disqualify him. “The Senators should pay attention to this.” Stevens said he once thought Kavanaugh “had the qualifications” to be a Supreme Court justice and even lauded Kavanaugh in one of his books for a ruling on political contributions. “His performance in the hearings changed my mind.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 40 minutes ago, Nokra said: What are the odds that he could be removed if, after his confirmation, further evidence comes to light? And is that about the best we can hope for at this point? OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 He could be on video saying "I'm Brett kavanaugh and I approve this rape" then actually rape a girl and they'd still go to bat for him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Honestly I am in favour of stacking the court now simply to delegitimatize it altogether and force a constitutional solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Honestly I am in favour of stacking the court now simply to delegitimatize it altogether and force a constitutional solution. I support this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Honestly I am in favour of stacking the court now simply to delegitimatize it altogether and force a constitutional solution. I support this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: He could be on video saying "I'm Brett kavanaugh and I approve this rape" then actually rape a girl and they'd still go to bat for him. The only thing that would disqualify him for Republicans would be if he voted for Hillary and not sarcastically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said: The only thing that would disqualify him for Republicans would be if he voted for Hillary and not sarcastically. Or worse, he could have publicly had a mild criticism of the petulant toddler in chief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: I support this Why? We only have legalized abortion and gay marriage thanks to SCOTUS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jose said: Why? We only have legalized abortion and gay marriage thanks to SCOTUS. Redsoxfan is all about that edge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 Man, you guys make it sound as if increasing the size of the Supreme Court doesn't totally require control of both houses of Congress and the Presidency or anything like that at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Redsoxfan is all about that edge Seriously, if it weren't for the fact that many Republican appointed judges become more liberal with time, this country would be even more of a shithole than it currently is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 When is the vote tomorrow? I need to make sure I have plenty of alcohol on hand before then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Redsoxfan is all about that edge liberals LOL The Supreme Court is filled with unelected elites who have lifetime appointments. They make political decisions for 325M people, and there is no accountability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Man, you guys make it sound as if increasing the size of the Supreme Court doesn't totally require control of both houses of Congress and the Presidency or anything like that at all! Democrats will eventually regain both although they are dopes and will just shrug their shoulders as SCOTUS destroys everything. If Democrats ever achieve a 5-4 majority, Republicans wouldn't hesitate to pack the court at the first opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 46 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Honestly I am in favour of stacking the court now simply to delegitimatize it altogether and force a constitutional solution. Why would you think a “constitutional solution “ would be preferable to the status quo? That sounds like furthering our progress towards a full on banana republic. You don’t have to force a constitutional issue by appointing another two justices. If memory serves me, it would be perfectly fine. On another note, the lifetime appointment to the court is supposed to serve as insulation to political winds, but we all know that the court is very political and continues to get worse every year. This latest nomination has been a circus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Democrats will eventually regain both although they are dopes and will just shrug their shoulders as SCOTUS destroys everything. If Democrats ever achieve a 5-4 majority, Republicans wouldn't hesitate to pack the court at the first opportunity. I’m actually kind of curious what you all think is going to happen when you say they will “destroy everything”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 This whole charade made me want to watch this since this confirmation hearing was actually really fun to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: liberals LOL The Supreme Court is filled with unelected elites who have lifetime appointments. They make political decisions for 325M people, and there is no accountability. No shit, the lifetime appointment needs to go (at minimum) but delegitimizing the courts just takes us one step closer to a right wing authoritarian autocracy (which is what the right wants, no qualms about it) where the executive just ignores the judiciary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: No shit, the lifetime appointment needs to go (at minimum) but delegitimizing the courts just takes us one step closer to a right wing authoritarian autocracy (which is what the right wants, no qualms about it) The Supreme Court consistently rules for conservatives and would not stop any right wing power grab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, RedSoxFan9 said: The Supreme Court consistently rules for conservatives and would not stop any right wing power grab. I'm talking about should there ever be a liberal majority (in like 40 years or so) delegitimizing the courts gives justification to ignore their ruling entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I'm talking about should there ever be a liberal majority (in like 40 years or so) delegitimizing the courts gives justification to ignore their ruling entirely. still worth it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 “Pack the court” is the sort of thing that is only appropriate to say if you’re currently taking high school government class and the teacher brings it up in regards to FDR and it blows your mind. If you’re older than 17 you should feel bad about yourself for suggesting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, sblfilms said: “Pack the court” is the sort of thing that is only appropriate to say if you’re currently taking high school government class and the teacher brings it up in regards to FDR and it blows your mind. If you’re older than 17 you should feel bad about yourself for suggesting it. high schoolers probably understand politics better than liberal adults is it better for liberals to shrug their shoulders and do nothing every time SCOTUS rules against them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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