BloodyHell Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, Link200 said: Trump waited about as long as he could to finally file a lawsuit. The committee will be dissolved before it gets through the courts. They onew that before they subpoena'd him. It was never about actually making him testify, it was about challenging him publicly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link200 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Oh I know. Still should have done this months ago. Doing it this late in the game has zero impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 Opinion | How the scheming of Kari Lake shows the need for electoral college reform - The Washington Post WWW.WASHINGTONPOST.COM How the scheming of Kari Lake and her election-denying allies shows the need for reform. tl;dr the lame duck Congress may not get ECA reform done 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 House January 6 committee has decided to make criminal referrals, chairman says | CNN Politics WWW.CNN.COM The House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol has decided to make criminal referrals to the Department of Justice, the panel's chairman, Rep. Bennie Thompson, told reporters Tuesday. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Quote House Jan 6th panel will recommend DOJ charge Trump with assisting insurrection (18 USC 2383), a crime that, upon conviction, would render Trump "incapable of holding any office under the United States." 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Here are all of Trump's criminal referrals: Obstruction of an Official Proceeding Conspiracy to Defraud the United States Conspiracy to Make a False Statement Incite, Assist, or Aid and Comfort an Insurrection 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, CayceG said: Here are all of Trump's criminal referrals: Obstruction of an Official Proceeding Conspiracy to Defraud the United States Conspiracy to Make a False Statement Incite, Assist, or Aid and Comfort an Insurrection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 I'd like to see ole' Donny wriggle himself out of this jam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Supreme Court: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 33 minutes ago, CayceG said: Sorry to be that guy (I’m not) but that doesn’t keep him from running for or holding the presidency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Sorry to be that guy (I’m not) but that doesn’t keep him from running for or holding the presidency I've seen analysis that a conviction on the insurrection one would prevent that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 So charge him already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 I actually don't know what happens now with the ball in DOJ's court. I'm hoping smart people come and explain that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 19 minutes ago, CayceG said: I've seen analysis that a conviction on the insurrection one would prevent that. That’s because they’re playing fast and loose with “officers of the United States” from 14A.3 the president is generally not considered an officer of the United States Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 38 minutes ago, CayceG said: I actually don't know what happens now with the ball in DOJ's court. I'm hoping smart people come and explain that. Apparently the Hague prosecutor that Garland appointed a month ago can just go directly to prosecuting Trump without having to go through Garland first. I'm not sure if this stuff is something that's in that guy's purview though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Jason said: Apparently the Hague prosecutor that Garland appointed a month ago can just go directly to prosecuting Trump without having to go through Garland first. I'm not sure if this stuff is something that's in that guy's purview though. Yes, January 6/election-related crimes are within Jack Smith's purview as special prosecutor. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 If convicted how much prison time could that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Until he is actually indicted all of this is just a bunch of noise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Air_Delivery said: Until he is actually indicted all of this is just a bunch of noise. Yeah I'm really having a hard time seeing how it matters. Pardon the cynicism, but haven't we been down this road 100 times before? The Jan 6 Committee was always seen by the opposition as a political ploy, and regardless of truth, that's effectively all it's been. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 3 hours ago, CayceG said: I actually don't know what happens now with the ball in DOJ's court. I'm hoping smart people come and explain that. It’s too close to an election for DOJ to do anything. We’ll have to wait for our democracy to collapse and no more federal elections before Garland can move. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 3 hours ago, CayceG said: I actually don't know what happens now with the ball in DOJ's court. I'm hoping smart people come and explain that. What happens is entirely up to the Special Prosecutor. Substantively, absolutely nothing has changed with these criminal referral recommendations from the committee. I am willing to bet that Jack Smith will pay little more than cursory attention to the evidence gathered by the committee in favor of the evidence already obtained by the DoJ and his own investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Fuck all the naysayers: 2023 is looking like an amazing year, with Indiana Jones and the Dial Destiny, Tears of the Kingdom, and then FFVI finally being on the Switch. Trump gets indicted in the spring and is in handcuffs by the end of the summer. Optimist Mar Solo reporting for duty! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 I’m gonna say this. For the future of this country, anything less than the death penalty for Trump is meaningless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 They dont have the guts.. but if they do try it then it will be interesting to see all the GOP ducks fall right back in support of Donnie.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Former Trump White House aide told Jan. 6 panel Mark Meadows burned documents a dozen times during the transition period - CNNPolitics AMP.CNN.COM The January 6 committee released another batch of transcripts Tuesday, including two more of its interviews with blockbuster witness Cassidy Hutchinson and testimony from... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 The section on the DC Guard response to January 6th is something, the Army Secretary being in charge is insanity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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