Genocide Israel be genociding thread

[Air_Delivery]

39 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

What is the scenario in which Hamas stops attacking Israeli civilians?

What scenario does Israel stop stealing Palestinian land?

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Anathema- said:

 

Probably none, but there are plenty of ways to make it so that someone cares about Palestinian lives other than Hamas.

I don’t know what this means

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Air_Delivery said:

What scenario does Israel stop stealing Palestinian land?

 

Oh man, a question with a question. GOT ME!

[Air_Delivery]

Just now, sblfilms said:

 

Oh man, a question with a question. GOT ME!

It seems to be fine with the status quo of Palestinians just doing nothing while Israel slowly eradicates them. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Air_Delivery said:

It seems to be fine with the status quo of Palestinians just doing nothing while Israel slowly eradicates them. 

They aren’t being eradicated. The population of Palestine continues to grow.

[Air_Delivery]

1 minute ago, sblfilms said:

They aren’t being eradicated. The population of Palestine continues to grow.

Into a smaller and smaller area until they are completely forced out and dispersed. Which is the right wing goal of Israel. 

[mclumber1]

Just now, Air_Delivery said:

Into a smaller and smaller area until they are completely forced out and dispersed. Which is the right wing goal of Israel. 

 

It for tat.  How many time did the Arabs that surround Israel try to drive them into the sea?

[Air_Delivery]

Just now, mclumber1 said:

 

It for tat.  How many time did the Arabs that surround Israel try to drive them into the sea?

I'm not sure how that is relevant to anything happening here.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

10 hours ago, mclumber1 said:

 

It for tat.  How many time did the Arabs that surround Israel try to drive them into the sea?

 

Probably only the 1948 war and that's a tenuous notion at best.

 

1956 - Israel joined the UK and France in a war of aggression against Egypt after the Nasser regime nationalized the Suez Canal

1967 - Israel preemptively attacked the Arab nations

1973 - Egypt and Syria attacked first, but the objective the war was to regain the Sinai (Egypt) and the Golan (Syira) which Israel had occupied during the 1967 war.

1982 - Israel invaded Lebanon to dislodge the PLO

 

The claim that "the Arabs tried to drive Israel into the sea" is largely -- if not entirely -- right-wing Israeli and their American apologist propaganda.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

In the interest of Israeli civilians we need to sell Hamas high tech weapons so that they only attack encroaching Israeli attack helicopters and military installations. It's only fair.

[Fizzzzle]

52 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

In the interest of Israeli civilians we need to sell Hamas high tech weapons so that they only attack encroaching Israeli attack helicopters and military installations. It's only fair.

Create a micro MAD situation to get everyone to get along?

[Brian]

 

[Anathema-]

10 hours ago, sblfilms said:

I don’t know what this means

 

I don't have to align myself with hamas to recognize the humanity of the Palestinians. I don't have to make a moral case for random attacks on non-military targets to understand that it's natural to align yourself with the only people who are willing to defend your home being invaded and stolen.

 

Isreal has literally all the power here so they really have all the responsibility to resolve this in any other way than what they're doing now. 

[Uaarkson]

11 minutes ago, ManUtdRedDevils said:

 

What do you even do about this! Fucking nothing. Jesus Christ.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

The hand wringing about Hamas is the exact same as the hand wringing around the ANC in apartheid South Africa.

[SuperSpreader]

9 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

The hand wringing about Hamas is the exact same as the hand wringing around the ANC in apartheid South Africa.

Same shit we do here too. 

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, Anathema- said:

Isreal has literally all the power here so they really have all the responsibility to resolve this in any other way than what they're doing now. 

There is no resolution other than Israel dissolving and the Jews leaving

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

23 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

The hand wringing about Hamas is the exact same as the hand wringing around the ANC in apartheid South Africa.

 

Speaking of South Africa, guess who helped its apartheid-era government develop and test a nuclear weapon?

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

Speaking of South Africa, guess who helped its apartheid-era government develop and test a nuclear weapon?

Birds of a feather

[AbsolutSurgen]

Hamas has no interest in Peace.

 

Some areas of the Arab world have publicly stated their desire to completely annihilate the Jewish people in Israel.

 

Does that justify the over-response in Gaza -- no.  But, it does help us understand it.

 

[Jwheel86]

Even if you solved the issue in the West Bank, the bigger problem is what do you do with Gaza? It will continue to be an open-air person unless either Egypt or Israel opens the border, neither of which is interested for obvious reasons.

[AbsolutSurgen]

53 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said:

Even if you solved the issue in the West Bank, the bigger problem is what do you do with Gaza? It will continue to be an open-air person unless either Egypt or Israel opens the border, neither of which is interested for obvious reasons.

Hamas’s stated objective is to create an Islamic state that includes all areas of Palestine - including all of Israel. 
Their founding charters specifically ban any allegiance with the Crusader West or the Communist East - and call out the UN as an organization founded on Zionist money. Their charter also focuses on indoctrination of all children to their goals and jihad. 
 

A translation from their founding charter:

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The initiatives, the so-called peace solutions, and the international conferences for resolving the Palestinian problem stand in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement, for to neglect any part of Palestine is to neglect part of the Islamic faith. The nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its [Islamic] faith. It is in the light of this principle that its members are educated, and they wage jihad in order to raise the banner of Allah over the homeland.

 

[osxmatt]

@Commissar SFLUFAN I've really enjoyed your recommendations over the years. Do you have any podcast or documentary recommendations on the 1948 Arab-Israeli War or the Six-Day War (or really anything post 1950)?

[Brian]

[Anathema-]

3 hours ago, sblfilms said:

There is no resolution other than Israel dissolving and the Jews leaving

 

There's more to Palestine and its people than hamas, just as we can't blame all of Isreal for the actions of the Likud fanatics. Don't let the language of those who would commit genocide fool you into forgetting that there are more real people suffering because of actions that Isreal is taking when they could be doing something else. We do it for Israelis, we need to do it for Palestinians as well. 

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Anathema- said:

 

There's more to Palestine and its people than hamas, just as we can't blame all of Isreal for the actions of the Likud fanatics. Don't let the language of those who would commit genocide fool you into forgetting that there are more real people suffering because of actions that Isreal is taking when they could be doing something else. We do it for Israelis, we need to do it for Palestinians as well. 

The Palestinian people were about to elect Hamas as their government explicitly because of how they handle Israel. Palestinian people overwhelmingly oppose Israel’s right to exist.

 

And it’s amusing that you bring up Likud and not blaming all of Israel for them, because the one bit of policy the vast majority of Israelis support Likud on is their treatment of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank  

[skillzdadirecta]

[Brian]

not shocked Israel is a bitch

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

2 hours ago, ManUtdRedDevils said:

 

Throw in the $1.3 billion/year to Egypt while we're at it, Bernie!

[Guest]

I hate these sorts of tweets. You see them also in regards to Black men killed by police. It doesn’t become wrong or more terrible because of their career or because they were a good person. If these people had all been unemployed and playing Fortnite all day, it would still be an awful thing that they were killed

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

3 minutes ago, sblfilms said:

I hate these sorts of tweets. You see them also in regards to Black men killed by police. It doesn’t become wrong or more terrible because of their career or because they were a good person. If these people had all been unemployed and playing Fortnite all day, it would still be an awful thing that they were killed

To some, a person's humanity is conditional on what they bring to the table

[Brian]

 

[CitizenVectron]

"A young person living in the area where terrorist group Hamas launches attacks against Jewish people is no longer living after a bullet entered their body."

[Air_Delivery]

29 minutes ago, ManUtdRedDevils said:

 

The ol' officer involved shooting. 

[Guest]

“It’s anti-Israel, not anti-Jew” they always say...